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1/4 andro plus epiandro?

Brandon25

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I'm about to start my second cycle at the start of January. My first cycle was 8 weeks 1/4 andro at 330 and clomid for Pct. For my second cycle I already have 8 weeks worth of 1/4 andro but after reading I'm considering adding epiandro because of how it helps with cutting vascularity and tightening things up. (Figure it would give me a jump on Summer). Am I better off running just 1/epi. Or 1/4/epi. What differences should I expect. And how do I go about dosing the epi. And what should my diet consist of surplus or deficit? Also will have exemestane on hand and use clomid for Pct
 
I enjoyed it. Went from 172-188 then dropped to 183-184 after Pct. Muscles were fuller and no sides. Gained some body fat though. Had to get use to not having abs popping.
 
Nah I didn't but I definitely gained a little bit around the stomach. Just using the mirror test. That's why I'm about to add epiandro into this next run. Figure it'll give me a headstart on being where I wanna be for Summer. Gonna eat at roughly 2100 cal/day. Maybe a little more. Gotta figure out my TDEE again. Haven't had a strict diet since I cut leading up to last summer.
 
Planning to eat 160g protein 70g fat 260g carb when I start the cycle. That should be good for a cut. I weigh 184 at 5'11. Got a guy who has 2 bottles of epimax. 300 caps total at 100mg. That would allow me to take 5 caps a day on cycle. That's 500mg a day. Would I need more than that? Or spread the dosing out different or what? Just spent a good bit on 1/4 andro so wallet is kinda thin but I wanna be sure to get the most outta the epi since it shines on a cut
 
500mg should be plenty. But everyone always wants to try more. Id say most guys who try 750 and 1000 agree it considerably better than 500. In fact, I think most who prefer 500 do so purely due to sides they experience that the other guys dont.
 
Brandon25 said:
That's 500mg a day. Would I need more than that? Or spread the dosing out different or what? Just spent a good bit on 1/4 andro so wallet is kinda thin but I wanna be sure to get the most outta the epi since it shines on a cut
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*From personal expeience*
Epi-Andro at 500mg per day is good as base and will help keep your mood and libido up, but the muscle gains and drying effects are far superior at 750mg. I know an extra 250mg doesn't seem like much but it really made a difference.

500mg per day-
Good mood
Steady libido
Good Test Base

750mg per day
Great mood
Alpha feeling
Enhanced libido
Still a good Test Base
Increased aggression
Noticable increase in strength
Extra Muscle/LBM gains
Water shedding/drying effects
Harder/fuller feeling muscles
Awesome pumps
 
Good deal. I'll splurge and get 2 bottles of elite.

3 bottles super 1
3 bottles super 4
2 bottles super epi elite

Dosing epi at 750. Do I spread it out throughout day or take 3 pills at once
 
U guys think 750 is better than 1000? I got enough to run 1000 for 8wks but if 750 is optimal I'd save some caps for next run
 
Brandon25 said:
U guys think 750 is better than 1000? I got enough to run 1000 for 8wks but if 750 is optimal I'd save some caps for next run
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I don't personally see any increased benefit to increasing the Epi dose to 1000mg, considering how good 750mg is. I'd recommend that you try 1000mg ED for a week and see how you respond.
 
I've never ran epi before so I wouldn't have anything to compare it to. Unless I ran 750 for a few weeks then 1000 a week to see what differences there are
 
Brandon25 said:
I've never ran epi before so I wouldn't have anything to compare it to. Unless I ran 750 for a few weeks then 1000 a week to see what differences there are
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If you were going to trial the 1000mg I'd go with

500/750/750/750/1000/1000/.../.../...

500mg during week 1 to test the waters with the new compound.
750mg weeks 2-4 to let the compound kick in and start showing it's worth
1000mg weeks 5-6 to see how you respond to the higher dosage. Then use your preffered dosage of either 750mg or 1000mg for the remaining 3 weeks.
 
Sounds good. I'm looking forward to seeing what difference adding epi makes on the cycle. Last time I just ran 1/4. Hoping to get tighter and leaner this go around instead of just packing on weight.
 
InItForGainz said:
If you were going to trial the 1000mg I'd go with

500/750/750/750/1000/1000/.../.../...

500mg during week 1 to test the waters with the new compound.
750mg weeks 2-4 to let the compound kick in and start showing it's worth
1000mg weeks 5-6 to see how you respond to the higher dosage. Then use your preffered dosage of either 750mg or 1000mg for the remaining 3 weeks.
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How long does it take the epi to kick in? 3-4 weeks like 1 andro?
 
InItForGainz said:
How much are you weighing in at?
How dose are you using?
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240lbs
750mg/daily
Tried 1000mg pwo this morning to see if I'd notice anything. Didn't notice anything from it.

Also running 1andro 330mg,4andro 110mg and 11kt 250mg.

Have a log here for this run.
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I've run 1 andro a few times so I'm the past and never felt anything until week 3 or 4. Probably will just need to wait until then and see if I notice a difference compared to when I ran the 1andro solo.
 
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