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My gains will stand the TREST of time!

mike33511

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Alright, guys. This will be my first log. It will be an 8 week blast of TD and oral Trest. I will take my first dose on Monday, 11/21.

Personal info:
-28 years old
-5'10", 183 lbs
-about 13-14% body fat
-lifting almost 2 years

My TRT protocol:
-200mg/wk Test Cyp
-250iu hCG EOD
-0.5mg Anastrozole 1st and 3rd day after Test injection. I will be upping the dose to EOD as soon as the cycle begins in an effort to prevent estrogen sides from starting in the first place.

Cycle Details:
Tr3st
50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50
DermaTREST
50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50
CEL Cycle Assist
4 caps a day

Dosing Protocol:
Training days: 50mg Tr3st about an hour before workout; 25mg DermaTREST in the AM and PM
Rest days: 25mg DermaTREST in the AM and PM; two doses of 25mg Tr3st spaced a few hours apart between the TD doses

I will also be throwing in 3 caps a day of Hi-Tech Superdrol that I bought when I first started looking into PH's. I now believe it's underdosed, but I paid for it, so I'm going to use it. Hopefully, it will have some effect.

I will be lifting 4 days a week on an upper/lower split.

Primary goal: gain lean mass
Secondary goal: gain strength

Any input is appreciated. I will post some starting pics when I get a chance.
 
Subbed! I've noticed that if you ate prior to dosing oral, it kicks in in an hour or so. If you have a somewhat empty stomach, its about 40 minutes
 
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Brandinooooo said:
Subbed! I've noticed that if you ate prior to dosing oral, it kicks in in an hour or so. If you have a somewhat empty stomach, its about 40 minutes
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I appreciate the info. Some days it will have been longer since I've eaten than others, so I'll adjust my timing a bit.
 
You should enjoy this. How are you dosing the arimidex? When I ran this cycle last year I got by with 12.5mg exemestane e3d. Are you using a glove and a syringe for the dermatrest?
 
BRUstrong said:
You should enjoy this. How are you dosing the arimidex? When I ran this cycle last year I got by with 12.5mg exemestane e3d. Are you using a glove and a syringe for the dermatrest?
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Yes, an oral syringe. You suggest a glove for applying it to the skin?

My current AI dose for TRT is 0.5mg twice a week. I figured I should increase it once I add the Trest, so I was planning on 0.5mg EOD.
 
mike33511 said:
Yes, an oral syringe. You suggest a glove for applying it to the skin?

My current AI dose for TRT is 0.5mg twice a week. I figured I should increase it once I add the Trest, so I was planning on 0.5mg EOD.
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You only need a glove if there are kids or people you'll be in direct contact directly after applying.
 
Even if it's dry, I believe it can still transfer. I'd be very careful, especially with trest. Just because it's dry, doesn't mean it's full absorbed. Also, glove is best practice no matter what. If you apply with your bare hands, you lose product. You will lose product if you apply with bare hands. You can also apply with your forearm, but again, watch out for transfer. If you want to be safe and get the best bang for your buck, go with gloves. You can search the forum regarding using bare hands.
 
BRUstrong said:
Even if it's dry, I believe it can still transfer. I'd be very careful, especially with trest. Just because it's dry, doesn't mean it's full absorbed. Also, glove is best practice no matter what. If you apply with your bare hands, you lose product. You will lose product if you apply with bare hands. You can also apply with your forearm, but again, watch out for transfer. If you want to be safe and get the best bang for your buck, go with gloves. You can search the forum regarding using bare hands.
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Yeah, I'm going to go with the gloves just to be safe. Regular latex ones will suffice?
 
Transdermals can still transfer after they are dry. If you apply to your chest and traps just plan on wearing a shirt permanently while around the wife and kids, sleep included. Even your laundry can transfer hormone if your wife picks it up so he careful bro. Keep all shirts turned right side out after you take them off! Can never be too careful with transdermals.
 
yates84 said:
Transdermals can still transfer after they are dry. If you apply to your chest and traps just plan on wearing a shirt permanently while around the wife and kids, sleep included. Even your laundry can transfer hormone if your wife picks it up so he careful bro. Keep all shirts turned right side out after you take them off! Can never be too careful with transdermals.
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Wow, I definitely did not know it could be transferred so easily. I will be wearing a shirt around the house, and the shirts I take off will be going straight into the washing machine. Thanks.
 
What about just applying it to your wrists and rubbing your wrists+forearms together? Mayhaps I'm overthinking it...
 
Moo37 said:
What about just applying it to your wrists and rubbing your wrists+forearms together? Mayhaps I'm overthinking it...
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Yeah but then it's on my wrists which could easily come into contact with my wife or children. I already got the gloves, so I'll be using them to apply to the shoulder area then putting on a shirt.
 
BRUstrong said:
Even if it's dry, I believe it can still transfer. I'd be very careful, especially with trest. Just because it's dry, doesn't mean it's full absorbed. Also, glove is best practice no matter what. If you apply with your bare hands, you lose product. You will lose product if you apply with bare hands. You can also apply with your forearm, but again, watch out for transfer. If you want to be safe and get the best bang for your buck, go with gloves. You can search the forum regarding using bare hands.
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yates84 said:
Transdermals can still transfer after they are dry. If you apply to your chest and traps just plan on wearing a shirt permanently while around the wife and kids, sleep included. Even your laundry can transfer hormone if your wife picks it up so he careful bro. Keep all shirts turned right side out after you take them off! Can never be too careful with transdermals.
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Indeed. There is a significant amount of compound (carrier AND active) that will remain at skin surface even well after drying.

Theres a case in the literature where a dad using androgel on arms transferred product to his 3yo son. Kid started growing pubic and facial hair, dick grew.

Cant be too careful with this stuff around kids and wives.
 
NewAgeMayan said:
Indeed. There is a significant amount of compound (carrier AND active) that will remain at skin surface even well after drying.

Theres a case in the literature where a dad using androgel on arms transferred product to his 3yo son. Kid started growing pubic and facial hair, dick grew.

Cant be too careful with this stuff around kids and wives.
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I'm very glad I decided to do this log. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have known how dangerous this stuff could be. You guys are great.

I now have a healthy fear of the product and will be exhibiting the utmost care during this cycle.

While wearing gloves, I poured the entire contents of the bottle into a tupperware today. I will not touch it without wearing gloves, and my wife won't be touching it at all. It is obviously out of reach of children. I will only be applying it to the shoulders/traps, and I will not be shirtless around the house. Worn shirts will go straight into the washing machine.

Thanks again, guys.
 
One more question for you guys: I've been taking Doxycycline, an antibiotic, for my acne. Should I stop the taking it while on cycle? I'm skipping my dose this morning just in case.
 
mike33511 said:
One more question for you guys: I've been taking Doxycycline, an antibiotic, for my acne. Should I stop the taking it while on cycle? I'm skipping my dose this morning just in case.
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Its fine. That antibiotic is actually pretty commonly used on cycle since it is used for cystic acne.
 
Official first day of cycle pic
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Day 1

Weight: 182.0

Today went well. To be honest though, I didn't notice the crazy boost from the Tr3st that everyone always talks about. I was pretty tired and stressed from school though, and I still had a pretty good workout. I know it will get even better once the TD Trest really kicks in.
 
Day 2

Weight: 182.6

Today was my first Lower day of the week and I definitely noticed the CNS boost this time. I still felt pretty good after 5 sets of heavy squats.

ATG High Bar Squats: 270 5x5
RDL's: 215 3x8
Goblet Squats: 110 3x12
Leg Curl Machine: 170 3x8

The TD application has gone smoothly. I'm really looking forward to when it kicks in.
 
Brandinooooo said:
The boost is from oral Tr3st. DermaTr3st takes a little while.
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Yeah man, I know. When I'm referring to the boost, that's what I mean. I noticed it, but it was a little more subtle than I thought it would be after hearing so much about it.

How long until you began to notice the effects of the TD?
 
mike33511 said:
Yeah man, I know. When I'm referring to the boost, that's what I mean. I noticed it, but it was a little more subtle than I thought it would be after hearing so much about it.

How long until you began to notice the effects of the TD?
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Oh gotcha. What dose did you take?

For me, the TD started kicking in around week 3. Thats when I was instantly up 10lbs or so lol.
 
Brandinooooo said:
Huh, I felt 50mg pretty good the first few times I took it. I mean, its not over powering like an Amphetamine or anything but its strong.
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I haven't slept well the last 2 nights. Maybe when I feel more rested, I'll notice it more. It works that way with stims for me, at least.
 
mike33511 said:
I haven't slept well the last 2 nights. Maybe when I feel more rested, I'll notice it more. It works that way with stims for me, at least.
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Yeah I'm the same way. The first thing I notice when I take Tr3st is the libido boost and energy boost after 45 minutes or so.
 
Happy Thanksgiving!

Day 4

Weight: 184.6

I'm up a couple pounds but I think it's just normal weight fluctuations at this point. My workout went well. I definitely noticed the CNS boost from the Tr3st this time. Grinding out a hard rep was easier and endurance was improved.

Flat Bench: 180 3x6, 135 1x10
Pendlay Rows: 175 4x6
Incline Bench: 145 8,7,7
Lat Pulldowns: 150 4x12
Rear Delt Fly Machine: 100 3x12
Skullcrushers: 70 15,15,12
Bicep Curls: 70 12,10,10

I hope everyone enjoys time with their families. I'm starting to get pumped about this cycle. I think I will really enjoy it once it gets going.
 
Day 5

Weight: 185.4

I'm up another pound, but it's probably because it was Thanksgiving yesterday.
My workout this morning:

ATG High Bar Squats: 275 3x5, 225 1x10
Good Mornings: 115 3x10
Leg Press: 7 plates each side 3x15
Leg Curl Machine: 170 8,8,6
Hanging Leg Raises: 25,20,20

Not a whole lot to report yet. The TD application process has gone very smoothly. It is a bit of a pain though to do it twice a day. That's what we do for the gains though...

I'm almost done with the Fall semester. That will be nice because I will be less stressed and getting more sleep, which should equal better progress in the gym.
 
mike33511 said:
Day 5

Weight: 185.4

I'm up another pound, but it's probably because it was Thanksgiving yesterday.
My workout this morning:

ATG High Bar Squats: 275 3x5, 225 1x10
Good Mornings: 115 3x10
Leg Press: 7 plates each side 3x15
Leg Curl Machine: 170 8,8,6
Hanging Leg Raises: 25,20,20

Not a whole lot to report yet. The TD application process has gone very smoothly. It is a bit of a pain though to do it twice a day. That's what we do for the gains though...

I'm almost done with the Fall semester. That will be nice because I will be less stressed and getting more sleep, which should equal better progress in the gym.
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I can't remember if you said it or not, but are you applying after showering? That's what I do and it is a pain lol. I always catch myself walking out of the bathroom with a shirt on and have to go back lol. All I do it, after drying off, apply it and then brush my teeth/shave and whatever else I need to do. Then I can put a shirt back on.
 
Brandinooooo said:
I can't remember if you said it or not, but are you applying after showering? That's what I do and it is a pain lol. I always catch myself walking out of the bathroom with a shirt on and have to go back lol. All I do it, after drying off, apply it and then brush my teeth/shave and whatever else I need to do. Then I can put a shirt back on.
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Yep, always after showering. I've been taking an extra shower every night to wash my shoulder. That makes it the third shower of the day on workout days, since I always take one before and after my workout.
 
mike33511 said:
Yep, always after showering. I've been taking an extra shower every night to wash my shoulder. That makes it the third shower of the day on workout days, since I always take one before and after my workout.
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Nice. I always end up with 3 showers also lol.
 
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