what is your favorite steroid and why?

Dmz gained 20 pounds and kept 17. **** was amazing I felt like I was 10. I could legit do anything I wanted at the gym. I bet if I pushed myself even harder on cycle I could've achieved more greatness
 
NoahsArk said:
Dmz gained 20 pounds and kept 17. **** was amazing I felt like I was 10. I could legit do anything I wanted at the gym. I bet if I pushed myself even harder on cycle I could've achieved more greatness
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I didn't respond to dmz :( but damn i wish i did
 
NoahsArk said:
It was amazing Man. I wish I could've ran it forever lol. But that's crazy
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Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more DMZ non-responders than other PH/DS/AAS? I hardly ever hear anyone say it about anything else that powerful, but I've read and/or heard of several instances with this compound.
 
saywutrly said:
Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more DMZ non-responders than other PH/DS/AAS? I hardly ever hear anyone say it about anything else that powerful, but I've read and/or heard of several instances with this compound.
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agreed... this and epi are really the only two i ever hear about outside of stuff thats straight bunk. this far more often tho.
 
saywutrly said:
Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more DMZ non-responders than other PH/DS/AAS? I hardly ever hear anyone say it about anything else that powerful, but I've read and/or heard of several instances with this compound.
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I believe it's due to the persons androgen sensitivity and the way they metabolize if
 
saywutrly said:
Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more DMZ non-responders than other PH/DS/AAS? I hardly ever hear anyone say it about anything else that powerful, but I've read and/or heard of several instances with this compound.
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I believe the whole stigma over non-responding to DMZ is a fallacy in itself. People have deluded themselves into thinking their otherwise bunk/underdosed DMZ isn't the culprit, rather their genetics. Until someone proves me wrong, with not just anecdotal/abstract theories, I will call the "non-responding" crap a misunderstanding.

NO WAY IN SHAPE OR FORM DENOUNCING ANYONE'S IDEA. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN.
 
123abcabcabc said:
I believe the whole stigma over non-responding to DMZ is a fallacy in itself. People have deluded themselves into thinking their otherwise bunk/underdosed DMZ isn't the culprit, rather their genetics. Until someone proves me wrong, with not just anecdotal/abstract theories, I will call the "non-responding" crap a misunderstanding.

NO WAY IN SHAPE OR FORM DENOUNCING ANYONE'S IDEA. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN.
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I'll entertain your theory. DMZ was unique in that it was a strong PH that a TON of inexperienced people got a hold of. It could have been just improper diet or improperly set goals or anything like that. I agree that correlation does not always equal causation. I was just curious if anyone else had noticed a trend.
 
saywutrly said:
I'll entertain your theory. DMZ was unique in that it was a strong PH that a TON of inexperienced people got a hold of. It could have been just improper diet or improperly set goals or anything like that. I agree that correlation does not always equal causation. I was just curious if anyone else had noticed a trend.
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I have to second this, even tho I know my stuff was underdosed I still put on 20lbs while on it. Diet diet diet. 90% of your gains are made outside the gym. Even on underdosed stuff if you eat and train right you'll still see gains.
 
ChocolateClen said:
I have to second this, even tho I know my stuff was underdosed I still put on 20lbs while on it. Diet diet diet. 90% of your gains are made outside the gym. Even on underdosed stuff if you eat and train right you'll still see gains.
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Dmz is the ****. It's so androgenic. I felt like I had a chest pump 24/7
Lol
 
saywutrly said:
I'll entertain your theory. DMZ was unique in that it was a strong PH that a TON of inexperienced people got a hold of. It could have been just improper diet or improperly set goals or anything like that. I agree that correlation does not always equal causation. I was just curious if anyone else had noticed a trend.
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A review is always based on a given product delivering the expectations the user had. When it comes to inexperienced people, it's the expectation that is the variable, not the compound. You know, how noobs think that running a cycle of Test & Tren is gonna make them look like Phil Heath in 6 months, lol.

Or when a different version of noob says, yeah, I'll try this DMZ. It's OTC so it can't be that serious. I'll take it for 4 weeks and if I like it, I'll jump back on a few weeks after I stop.

No PCT. No Plan. And boom. They put on 20lbs of mass in 4 weeks and the reviews are out of this world positive but the young man ends up screwing his body up in the process. I've seen both types of noobs and rarely do I find the ones that actually expect the outcome that is likely to happen.
 
I'm running a var cycle right now and I love it. I've noticed my joints are feeling so much better and I'm getting so much more lean.
 
barbellsnbows said:
I'm taking 10 mg a day, thought about bumping the dosage up but I think I'm gonna wait a bit longer as it's only been 2 weeks.
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Noticable results wirh only 10mg in only two weeks.
Sounds really great.

I noticed many people run about 80-100mg ed wich is pretty costy.
 
Bunshichi said:
Noticable results wirh only 10mg in only two weeks.
Sounds really great.

I noticed many people run about 80-100mg ed wich is pretty costy.
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Holy crap that is a copious amount...upper end is 20 for var as with a female they risk virilization . I could see pushing 40..but 100...might as well hop on something heavier or got var with Clen
 
FNF5989 said:
Holy crap that is a copious amount...upper end is 20 for var as with a female they risk virilization . I could see pushing 40..but 100...might as well hop on something heavier or got var with Clen
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Oh yeah well yeah actually I didn't notice she is a female. That explains it.
 
FNF5989 said:
Holy crap that is a copious amount...upper end is 20 for var as with a female they risk virilization . I could see pushing 40..but 100...might as well hop on something heavier or got var with Clen
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That's what I was thinking! No way would I ever take more than 20. Was considering bumping up to 20 but I'm at least gonna wait till I'm 4 weeks in.
 
Overall: testosterone.... nothing like being bigger, stronger, leaner and better cardio.

for a Recomp: H-drol/Helladrol.... amazing pump, no aromatization and helps fat loss. Clen's great, too. I get pumped and stronger on clen, and it obviously helps with fat loss.

things I hate: Superdrol.... amazing gains in strength and size, but I felt like I had the flu the whole time. Epi tore my joints up, and I wasn't able to finish that cycle either.
 
I just started on the dark side and am on test e and tbol mainly for the least sides. Any other compounds that are easy on the hairline that would give me size, strength, and lean gains?
 
CatSnake said:
Overall: testosterone.... nothing like being bigger, stronger, leaner and better cardio.

for a Recomp: H-drol/Helladrol.... amazing pump, no aromatization and helps fat loss. Clen's great, too. I get pumped and stronger on clen, and it obviously helps with fat loss.

things I hate: Superdrol.... amazing gains in strength and size, but I felt like I had the flu the whole time. Epi tore my joints up, and I wasn't able to finish that cycle either.
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Epistane was good, definitely suffered from joint pain and back pumps though
 
jgntyce said:
I just started on the dark side and am on test e and tbol mainly for the least sides. Any other compounds that are easy on the hairline that would give me size, strength, and lean gains?
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How many weeks into your cycle are you and what dosage of test? Test and tbol should definitely be sufficient if you havent pinned before
 
AnabolicGuru said:
How many weeks into your cycle are you and what dosage of test? Test and tbol should definitely be sufficient if you havent pinned before
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I am two weeks into it. Test e is at 500mg a week. Any other compounds that you suggest I try with the least sides effects for next cycle? I am on blast and cruise with test e so I am looking for other compounds that I can stack with test e.
 
Dmz used to be a prescription steroid in europe so not too sure about non responders to it lol
 
AnabolicGuru said:
"Used to" pretty sure it was discontinued from prescription use due to nonresponders from what I remember reading
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I would love to read that too and agree with you. My only experience with dmz was less than desirable so really want to be on your side here tbh
 
barbellsnbows said:
That's what I was thinking! No way would I ever take more than 20. Was considering bumping up to 20 but I'm at least gonna wait till I'm 4 weeks in.
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Don't go right from 10 to 20 - 15 will absolutely make a difference and may be all you need with less risk of virilization. Remember, going from 10 to 15mg/day is already a 50% increase in drugs.

My friend just put up a podium finish at the first ever World's Strongest Woman, taking only 10-15mg for 40 days.
 
Hyde said:
Don't go right from 10 to 20 - 15 will absolutely make a difference and may be all you need with less risk of virilization. Remember, going from 10 to 15mg/day is already a 50% increase in drugs.

My friend just put up a podium finish at the first ever World's Strongest Woman, taking only 10-15mg for 40 days.
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Does her dick hang lower than her balls?
 
Hyde said:
On 15mg of Var?? Dude, her body is bangin lol. She hangs around 160 at 5'4" and between diet and water cut makes a 140 weightclass. Basically looks like an off-season physique competitor.
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It was a Rich Piana joke hahah, i believe you bro...some hot ass girls ive seen indicate use of var to me
 
jgntyce said:
I am two weeks into it. Test e is at 500mg a week. Any other compounds that you suggest I try with the least sides effects for next cycle? I am on blast and cruise with test e so I am looking for other compounds that I can stack with test e.
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Any help?
 
AnabolicGuru said:
The only compound I've had success with was epistane man, but ill be running nano-particulated methylstenbolone soon
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jgntyce said:
I will definitely consider Epistane for next blast. Thanks
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Epistane is a personal fav. Terrible choice if you wanna get huge, but awesome for drying out and hardening you up while jacking up strength over about 6 weeks. Some guys get some muscle out of it, but I just get stronger around week 3 mainly.
 
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