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coltonwalker

coltonwalker

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Thinking about putting together my third cycle that will be run early this coming year for 12 weeks (16 w/PCT) Let me know what needs to be changed as far as dosing or other suggestions. Thanks guys. I like to get head starts and buy what is needed as time goes along lol. doesnt hurt the wallet as much (it seems.....). and yes Hulk.. I copied your tags
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Dmz 30/ 30/ 45/ 45/ 45/ 45/ 45/ 45
Dermatr3st 100/100/100/100/100/100/100/100 am/pm
OL A.p. full dose (2 bottles)
arimidex .5mg eod for the 8 weeks

PCT
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Nolva 40/20/20/10
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Exemestane 0/0/25/12.5/12.5 (eod doses)
OL K1ngs blood
super cort. control
300mg epicatechin
half dose OL A.p.
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Oral Trest or TD? You should up the dose of Trest to at least 75. You'll also need a Pharma AI to run with it. In running exemestane right now for mine.
 
coltonwalker said:
Thinking about putting together my third cycle that will be run early this coming year for 12 weeks (16 w/PCT) Let me know what needs to be changed as far as dosing or other suggestions. Thanks guys. I like to get head starts and buy what is needed as time goes along lol. doesnt hurt the wallet as much (it seems.....). and yes Hulk.. I copied your tags
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Dmz 0/0/0/0/0/0/15/30/30/30/30/30
LGD4033 9/9/9/9/9/9/9/9/0/0/0/0
Tr3st 0/0/0/0/50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50
MK677 20mg for 16 weeks (counting PCT time)
OL Ar1macare PRO

PCT
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Nolva 40/20/10/10
Clomid 50/50/25/25
OL Sup3r PCT (used for my last cycle of Tren, Epi, and Msten and was awesome)
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Layout looks decent. Which DMZ are you using? You could go up to 45 mg DMZ after dropping the LGD. I'd use full dose of ACP + 750 mg TUDCA and some other things to help maintain healthy blood pressure and lipid levels. Ubiquinol, Spirulina, and Niacin just to name a few. Are you using Trest caps or Dermatrest? PWO only? If you don't have Super PCT yet, K1ngs Blood will be an even better option during PCT. I personally run more things during PCT.
 
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coltonwalker said:
Thinking about putting together my third cycle that will be run early this coming year for 12 weeks (16 w/PCT) Let me know what needs to be changed as far as dosing or other suggestions. Thanks guys. I like to get head starts and buy what is needed as time goes along lol. doesnt hurt the wallet as much (it seems.....). and yes Hulk.. I copied your tags
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Dmz 0/0/0/0/0/0/15/30/30/30/30/30
LGD4033 9/9/9/9/9/9/9/9/0/0/0/0
Tr3st 0/0/0/0/50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50
MK677 20mg for 16 weeks (counting PCT time)
OL Ar1macare PRO

PCT
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Nolva 40/20/10/10
Clomid 50/50/25/25
OL Sup3r PCT (used for my last cycle of Tren, Epi, and Msten and was awesome)
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Lol nice tag list buddy ;)
 
I dont have funds for more dmz.. it's a company out of NE that doesn't sell online. I can bump it to 75mg for trest which was Also that was going to be OL oral. Should I dose pwo? Do you suggest transdermal instead?? I'll be getting kings blood instead. You guys are great
 
coltonwalker said:
I dont have funds for more dmz.. it's a company out of NE that doesn't sell online. I can bump it to 75mg for trest which was Also that was going to be OL oral. Should I dose pwo? Do you suggest transdermal instead?? I'll be getting kings blood instead. You guys are great
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I'm loving the Trest pwo. I do 50mg. If you work out after noon, dose 1 cap morning and 2 pwo.
 
coltonwalker said:
I dont have funds for more dmz.. it's a company out of NE that doesn't sell online. I can bump it to 75mg for trest which was Also that was going to be OL oral. Should I dose pwo? Do you suggest transdermal instead?? I'll be getting kings blood instead. You guys are great
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If you can afford to do it, 25 mg DT in the AM and PM with a PWO dose of the oral would lead to the most stable blood levels and better gains. If you can't afford to do both then stick to 50 mg PWO dose of the oral. That low of a dose will lessen the chance of needing to use an AI. It will mean less mass gains that way but the 50 mg oral Trest will fuel some crazy intense workouts.
 
Jebrook said:
If you can afford to do it, 25 mg DT in the AM and PM with a PWO dose of the oral would lead to the most stable blood levels and better gains. If you can't afford to do both then stick to 50 mg PWO dose of the oral. That low of a dose will lessen the chance of needing to use an AI. It will mean less mass gains that way but the 50 mg oral Trest will fuel some crazy intense workouts.
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What about 25 am 50 pwo w/exemestane on cycle. Dose for exem?
 
coltonwalker said:
What about 25 am 50 pwo w/exemestane on cycle. Dose for exem?
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Half-life of oral Trest is very short. That's why most people will use both the oral and the transdermal. You would have to pop a pill every 3 hours to maintain steady levels. Like I said, if using the oral just dose it PWO IMO for the CNS boost. Trest-fueled workouts are fire:). Start with 50 mg. 25 mg EOD of Exemestane should be plenty of estrogen control. If it's too much back off to 12.5 EOD.
 
Jebrook said:
Half-life of oral Trest is very short. That's why most people will use both the oral and the transdermal. You would have to pop a pill every 3 hours to maintain steady levels. Like I said, if using the oral just dose it PWO IMO for the CNS boost. Trest-fueled workouts are fire:). Start with 50 mg. 25 mg EOD of Exemestane should be plenty of estrogen control. If it's too much back off to 12.5 EOD.
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Yes. Yes they are.
 
I agree with Jebrook I would add some stuff to PCT.

I Life to continue with cycle supports, especially if using a SERM.

I would also add some cortisol control to PCT and an AI as well.

Maybe SNS Reduce XT or Iron Legion Invictus

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Sweet! in on this!
 
Thanks guys. I got grape seed, Ala and fish + multi for the entire cycle also. Thinking I might just dose trest at 50mg pwo... run exemestane at 12.5 eod (from day 1?? Stop day befor pct or run through), reduce xt + OL KB and grape seed + dandelion PCT. AC pro and tudca.

On a side note... anyone got a coupon for OL lol. Going to need it
 
Your gonna be strong asf on this cycle. Mk is great, really really help with hunger increase and it helped me heal faster. Like hurt back after lower body days and all around recovery. Lgd your gonna be real strong on. Week two it will hit you. On my cycle benching 235 for 3-4 reps for 7 sets. Now I just hit 245 for 5:5 no spot. I haven't ran DMZ and I'm in school and alcohol and methlys don't go hand in hand.
 
Good knowledge going on in this thread. Good follow
 
jramoska said:
Your gonna be strong asf on this cycle. Mk is great, really really help with hunger increase and it helped me heal faster. Like hurt back after lower body days and all around recovery. Lgd your gonna be real strong on. Week two it will hit you. On my cycle benching 235 for 3-4 reps for 7 sets. Now I just hit 245 for 5:5 no spot. I haven't ran DMZ and I'm in school and alcohol and methlys don't go hand in hand.
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I hear ya there.. also in college 5th year. Going to have to stop for 16 weeks :( lol
 
If you aren't in a hurry (Since you mentioned funds are tight) the holiday sales are right around the corner. Likely going to be some great discounts available in the next couple of weeks. Just sayin.. :)
 
Last question.. for my on cycle AI, do I start it prior to trest, or day of? Taper down if I'm only using 12.5mg eod? Also, suicidal (exemestane) or adex. Still fuzzy in the areas of AI.
 
coltonwalker said:
Last question.. for my on cycle AI, do I start it prior to trest, or day of? Taper down if I'm only using 12.5mg eod? Also, suicidal (exemestane) or adex. Still fuzzy in the areas of AI.
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i choose aromasin over adex anyday and id start it second day of tr3st and dose EOD for
 
coltonwalker said:
Very valid point.. can't wait to make that big purchase. muahahaha
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decent sale going on at Nutriverse right now:

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Plus they still have the BOGO for the Sup3r-2 and Sup3r-11 (if those have any place in your cycle stack or the deal changes your mind on what to run)
 
I also read that LGD can be (really) hard on the lipids (lowering the good cholesterol and raising the bad) which can cause fatigue during PCT (If I read those other reports correctly). I am curious to see if Ar1macare Pro is enough to help offset that.
 
Sparkss said:
decent sale going on at Nutriverse right now:

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Plus they still have the BOGO for the Sup3r-2 and Sup3r-11 (if those have any place in your cycle stack or the deal changes your mind on what to run)
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Maybe even better for you would be the Email I got earlier today:

OLYMPUS LABS HALLOWEEN SALE - SAVE 50%!
 
jramoska said:
Your gonna be strong asf on this cycle. Mk is great, really really help with hunger increase and it helped me heal faster. Like hurt back after lower body days and all around recovery. Lgd your gonna be real strong on. Week two it will hit you. On my cycle benching 235 for 3-4 reps for 7 sets. Now I just hit 245 for 5:5 no spot. I haven't ran DMZ and I'm in school and alcohol and methlys don't go hand in hand.
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Be careful with your diet with the MK, if it is legit you will be VERY hungry. I had some ceretropic MK-677 before and stopped taking it after about 2 weeks because I couldn't control my cravings whenever I took it and was getting fat.
 
brick295 said:
Be careful with your diet with the MK, if it is legit you will be VERY hungry. I had some ceretropic MK-677 before and stopped taking it after about 2 weeks because I couldn't control my cravings whenever I took it and was getting fat.
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I'm on just 10mg right now and about to bump to 20 and love it. I like that I eat more as my days are 90% activity, so 4100 calories is a little easier to obtain
 
coltonwalker said:
At my rate I'm on both trains lol plus 50% is awesome. If they get much lower kudos
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Most, if not all, of their big sales are 50% off. I dunno if they'll go lower for Black Friday, but if they do go lower, that'd be the holiday for it so I'll wait and see. Besides, I'll have more money then
 
Ok. So I have everything other than the OL Kings and arimicare, but that should ship soon. Starting end of January. Next question.. I got a free bottle of GAT t-300 original formula. Would it be ok to take this during PCT. I never lose much during PCT and keep most if not close to all usually. So taking a supplement like this (test booster and fat burner) with my other PCT stuff should be ok? I know some guys say don't use a fat burner during PCT but heres the deal. Right after my PCT my girl will be getting back from being overseas for 4 months and I want to "look good" for her (typical I know lol). What do you all suggest for the t-300. I was going to stay around maintenance for those 4 weeks of PCT. 3600 cals
 
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