PA or ARA?

bigsmall said:
I don't agree. After many years of ARA use, dosing on off days and reducing what you take on workout days proves counter productive to the cycle's overall results. Sweet spot for me is 3-4 workouts at 6 caps. But we are all different.
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I never really implied to take less on workout days. I meant to take whatever dose you like on workout days, then 1g at least once during the week (assuming you workout 1/2/3 times a week, and not 4/5/6/7 times a week) to maintain saturation. This is the advice I got back when ArA was huge on these forums. But of course, do whatever works for you
 
ma70 said:
I never really implied to take less on workout days. I meant to take whatever dose you like on workout days, then 1g at least once during the week (assuming you workout 1/2/3 times a week, and not 4/5/6/7 times a week) to maintain saturation. This is the advice I got back when ArA was huge on these forums. But of course, do whatever works for you
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Rather everyday than just on workout days. But like you say "whatever works for people"
 
Does anyone know if there are any issues using ARA with an AAS? I could post this in the anabolic forum but since we are on the ARA topic. Specifically var
 
drejb said:
Does anyone know if there are any issues using ARA with an AAS? I could post this in the anabolic forum but since we are on the ARA topic. Specifically var
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You could, but I'd suggest PCT instead, use it when you need the boost.

And there is no study done on its joint/lipid effects while on AAS, I really can't even formulate a guess as to the effects but I would maybe suggest to keep fatty acid intake heavier on the omega 3/6 side while on, for general health.

Inflammatory factors will already be up, and lipid profiles definitely get saved some amount by a more "Mediterranean approach"
 
drejb said:
Does anyone know if there are any issues using ARA with an AAS? I could post this in the anabolic forum but since we are on the ARA topic. Specifically var
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Why the f... would you use ArA with anabolic Steroids?
1. ArA is an natural muscle builder and using natural muscle builders with steroids is just stupid and totaly waste of money.
2. On cycle, Omega3 would be your best friend and not ArA.
 
Danes said:
Why the f... would you use ArA with anabolic Steroids?
1. ArA is an natural muscle builder and using natural muscle builders with steroids is just stupid and totaly waste of money.
2. On cycle, Omega3 would be your best friend and not ArA.
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Cheers! Just doin some research. Appreciate the response
 
My plan is to run ARA+Alphamax until Mid January and gain as much size as possible (if a little fat comes, so be it. Surplus of only 400-500 cals so shouldn't be to bad) And then either run a PH cycle or Var+test come march leading into a harder / fuller physique come the end of spring
 
drejb said:
My plan is to run ARA+Alphamax until Mid January and gain as much size as possible (if a little fat comes, so be it. Surplus of only 400-500 cals so shouldn't be to bad) And then either run a PH cycle or Var+test come march leading into a harder / fuller physique come the end of spring
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Do opposite! Run Ph cycle and while on PCT you can add ArA+alphamax or even Anabeta .
 
Danes said:
Do opposite! Run Ph cycle and while on PCT you can add ArA+alphamax or even Anabeta .
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I'd totally go that route but unfortunately I'm already 2 weeks into alphamax. I'm also still doing tons of research regarding the cycling because it's my first one and I'm not gonna lie I'm hesitant / nervous. Just wanna do sht right. I will however probably run Alpha and ARA again for pct
 
Post in the AAS section if you have any questions or want our input on it brother,

Glad to see you're doing the research
 
Driven2lift said:
Post in the AAS section if you have any questions or want our input on it brother,

Glad to see you're doing the research
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Yeah I've been in and out of there reading and posting. Some great advice on here. Tons of dudes with a wealth of knowledge. Wtf did people do without the internet in the golds gym Arnold era!?
 
drejb said:
Yeah I've been in and out of there reading and posting. Some great advice on here. Tons of dudes with a wealth of knowledge. Wtf did people do without the internet in the golds gym Arnold era!?
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trial and error, human guinea pigs---thanks to them we now have protocols that are proven to work.
 
There are always people willing to try things to get the effects they want.
 
Danes said:
I would not say its unhealthy as long you are a healthy person. Try to take it everyday for 8 weeks.
There is MUCH broscience about ArA
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You believe the daily dosing is superior to workout days only? What dosage for daily dosing do you prefer? Also are you an advocate for 50 days off as well?
 
The Whizard said:
You believe the daily dosing is superior to workout days only? What dosage for daily dosing do you prefer? Also are you an advocate for 50 days off as well?
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Yes I do.
If you are one who dont feel much from ArA, try to go with 2g to 2.5g (only if you are healthy guy.not having inflammatory issues etc)on workout days and 1.5 on off days.
I would say 8 weeks on then taking a break.
There is a ArA study 8 weeks long and bloodwork show no health issues at all.
 
Danes said:
Yes I do.
If you are one who dont feel much from ArA, try to go with 2g to 2.5g (only if you are healthy guy.not having inflammatory issues etc)on workout days and 1.5 on off days.
I would say 8 weeks on then taking a break.
There is a ArA study 8 weeks long and bloodwork show no health issues at all.
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I had to go high as well. 2g was good. 2.5g was better but gave me lethargy
 
Also. I have an issue with my psoas. It flares up a bit every once in a while and is just super stiff and sore. I'm assuming ARA is going to aggravate any type of inflammatory injury?
 
drejb said:
Also. I have an issue with my psoas. It flares up a bit every once in a while and is just super stiff and sore. I'm assuming ARA is going to aggravate any type of inflammatory injury?
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It would definitely worse your psoriasis. ArA which is polyunsaturated omega6 fatty acid would worse it, while GLA which is also an omega6 fatty acid would actually help you
 
Danes said:
It would definitely worse your psoriasis. ArA which is polyunsaturated omega6 fatty acid would worse it, while GLA which is also an omega6 fatty acid would actually help you
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Sorry it's not psoriasis as in the skin disorder. It's a psoas injury (hip flexor leading to the spine). It's an inflammation due to a sprain from months ago.
 
drejb said:
Sorry it's not psoriasis as in the skin disorder. It's a psoas injury (hip flexor leading to the spine). It's an inflammation due to a sprain from months ago.
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Aah I am sorry. I thought you meant Psoriasis. Language barrier :)
You can always try and see how it goes
 
Danes said:
Yes I do.
If you are one who dont feel much from ArA, try to go with 2g to 2.5g (only if you are healthy guy.not having inflammatory issues etc)on workout days and 1.5 on off days.
I would say 8 weeks on then taking a break.
There is a ArA study 8 weeks long and bloodwork show no health issues at all.
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Got links to that study?
 
Synapsin said:
It used to be way more expensive before SNS released x-gels and gave MN some competition.
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SNS was no cheaper than MN when it came out. I personally found MN could be found at a better price. Anyhow, MN has 2 x 100 ARA plus a Test Factor for 79 at nutri verse and has so for months now.
 
bigsmall said:
SNS was no cheaper than MN when it came out. I personally found MN could be found at a better price. Anyhow, MN has 2 x 100 ARA plus a Test Factor for 79 at nutri verse and has so for months now.
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We were cheaper than MN when we released it.

X Factor Advanced is not the same as X Gels, so if you were comparing those prices they aren't the same.

When MN was making the 200ct X Factor (not XFA) the pricing was similar but every time I've looked since MN is usually more expensive.

If you're able to find ARA via MN X Factor cheaper than X Gels that's great and I would get it but I've never been a fan of XFA
 
Daycrawler said:
We were cheaper than MN when we released it.

X Factor Advanced is not the same as X Gels, so if you were comparing those prices they aren't the same.

When MN was making the 200ct X Factor (not XFA) the pricing was similar but every time I've looked since MN is usually more expensive.

If you're able to find ARA via MN X Factor cheaper than X Gels that's great and I would get it but I've never been a fan of XFA
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The price (79) is for X-Factor not X Factor Advanced. And it includes a bottle of Test Factor.
Its been at this price, at nutri verse, for months now.
Get to know your competition. I do and I am just some gym rat.
 
bigsmall said:
The price (79) is for X-Factor not X Factor Advanced. And it includes a bottle of Test Factor.
Its been at this price, at nutri verse, for months now.
Get to know your competition. I do and I am just some gym rat.
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I wasn't referring to that current deal. I was referring to your comment about when we launched X Gels and the price not being lower than MN.

We were below the price point of X Factor and still are on most sites.

Nutriverse - Same price

Lockout - $5/less a bottle than X Factor.

I've seen X Gels as low as $31/bottle.

In any case, that's a good price for ArA but outside of specials like that one (which since XGels can be found for $32/bottle right now, you're basically paying $16 for Test Factor which isn't bad for the profile. Nutriverse is also good people so that's a bonus) we're consistently lower than MN.
 
bigsmall said:
SNS was no cheaper than MN when it came out. I personally found MN could be found at a better price. Anyhow, MN has 2 x 100 ARA plus a Test Factor for 79 at nutri verse and has so for months now.
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MN used to sell it for over $50 a bottle before x-gels was released.
 
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