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ChocolateClen said:
FINALLY! A week later and 2 trips to the local post office I've finally got my hands on some WICKED. I know for a fact it's going to be a hell of a ride.

So time to throw out that ****ty old C4 of mine and time to get down and dirty with some WICKED gains.

First impressions:
Big Container for such a little amount, so I naturally thought there would be a lot of BS on the package, there always is with supplements. WRONG! Good luck finding any BS on this package, all you find is some bold easy to read killer supplement facts, a short paragraph on the product and dosing information along with the whole not recommended for under 18 paragraph written on basically everything these days.

Taste: Update coming soon

The feels: Update coming soon

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That is a no nonsense perkilate and pump product!

I wonder what the caffeine is on that? My fat burner is 200 per cap. Adding this would probably send me to the stratosphere.

Red Wine extract. Cool addition. Isn't this Resveratrol?
 
SFreed said:
I went back and located the post that sent this spiraling into an off topic, helter shelter mess. And look who started it all.......(points finger ChocolateClen)
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Hey! I didn't say I had a problem with an off topic/derailed thread. Also I'm pointing my finger at bighulksmash cause all his treads and the ones he posts in go off topic.

Prolly cause he's so god damn much fun....

Jealous
 
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I wish I had good things to say about this product, I was really expecting some amazing things to come of it but I'm disappointed.

Back day today so I took 1 scoop in 6 ml of water to assess tolerance. Felt nothing, no tingling no rush of energy nothing. So I took another scoop because I wanted to feel something, anything. And I did. I felt a little tingly in my ears and nose but no extra energy nothing. Tingling tied after the first set of deadlifts, no itchy sensation nothing, just a fast heart beat.

Tast: 4/10, tastes like most grape things do, but I'm not concerned with the taste. Taste means nothing to me if the product delivers but I know it's important to others.

Overall thoughts: I'm extremely saddened that the product didn't meet my expectations. Having not used pwo in over a year I was really hoping it would give me a swift kick in the ass and help me get some extra reps out but I felt nothing. If anything the rapid heart beat hindered my workout because I found myself having to take longer breaks.
 
I see value in some prop labels, but in a pre, I would prefer an open label, especially when it comes to the stim packages.
 
A bit of an update, it's been over an hour since I left the gym and I'm antsy and nervous as hell and not in a good way. I'm on edge and anxious I couldn't stand still when I was presenting it's honestly awful. It's like I'm in a constant state of anxiety and yet I feel lethargic and without energy. I feel like I'm in a constant flight or fight mode but yet I don't have the energy to want to do anything. Even walking feels like a chore now
 
ChocolateClen said:
A bit of an update, it's been over an hour since I left the gym and I'm antsy and nervous as hell and not in a good way. I'm on edge and anxious I couldn't stand still when I was presenting it's honestly awful. It's like I'm in a constant state of anxiety and yet I feel lethargic and without energy. I feel like I'm in a constant flight or fight mode but yet I don't have the energy to want to do anything. Even walking feels like a chore now
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That doesn't sound good. Start drinking a **** ton of water. Maybe you can flush everything out.
 
SFreed said:
Thanks for the honest thoughts ChocolateClen.
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Yeah man I see no point in lying. It's different for everyone I know maybe it's just not working for me. I hate this feeling tho, even 4 scoops of C4 didn't make me feel like this. It's not a fun feeling and I'm not sure if it's because I didn't wait for t to kick in or what but 30 min def should have been long enough for it to kick in.

SFreed said:
That doesn't sound good. Start drinking a **** ton of water. Maybe you can flush everything out.
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Yeah I'm trying to get it all out like my body is telling me I need to move my my legs are just like nah fam we ain't moving today. Everything just feels heavy
 
ChocolateClen said:
A bit of an update, it's been over an hour since I left the gym and I'm antsy and nervous as hell and not in a good way. I'm on edge and anxious I couldn't stand still when I was presenting it's honestly awful. It's like I'm in a constant state of anxiety and yet I feel lethargic and without energy. I feel like I'm in a constant flight or fight mode but yet I don't have the energy to want to do anything. Even walking feels like a chore now
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Drink water. A lot of it. Hydrate.
I think you are crashing a tad from the stims.

Any walnuts or peanuts?
also grab some protein.

This will help you.

How's your heart rate ma man. Let us know.


Get Hydrated
Eat protein
Lay down and relax yourself.
 
ChocolateClen said:
A bit of an update, it's been over an hour since I left the gym and I'm antsy and nervous as hell and not in a good way. I'm on edge and anxious I couldn't stand still when I was presenting it's honestly awful. It's like I'm in a constant state of anxiety and yet I feel lethargic and without energy. I feel like I'm in a constant flight or fight mode but yet I don't have the energy to want to do anything. Even walking feels like a chore now
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Dang! Sorry to hear that man. It made me feel a bit wacky the first time I used it too but I'm a stim junky, so I kind of embraced it. Lol.

I think because you haven't used p/w in a while, this stuff might be a little too intense.
 
ChocolateClen said:
I wish I had good things to say about this product, I was really expecting some amazing things to come of it but I'm disappointed.

Back day today so I took 1 scoop in 6 ml of water to assess tolerance. Felt nothing, no tingling no rush of energy nothing. So I took another scoop because I wanted to feel something, anything. And I did. I felt a little tingly in my ears and nose but no extra energy nothing. Tingling tied after the first set of deadlifts, no itchy sensation nothing, just a fast heart beat.

Tast: 4/10, tastes like most grape things do, but I'm not concerned with the taste. Taste means nothing to me if the product delivers but I know it's important to others.

Overall thoughts: I'm extremely saddened that the product didn't meet my expectations. Having not used pwo in over a year I was really hoping it would give me a swift kick in the ass and help me get some extra reps out but I felt nothing. If anything the rapid heart beat hindered my workout because I found myself having to take longer breaks.
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^^^ it definitely gave you a swift kick in the ass I'm just not sure it's the kind of kick in the ass that you were asking for. I had a similar experience a while back when I first tried mesomorph I went two Scoops right out of the gate because somebody said it was weak had a real bad experience that day. I waited 2 days then I went down to three quarters of a scoop and I absolutely fell in love with the feeling. Being that you haven't had any pre workout in over a year two scoops was in my opinion way too much for you. I don't know what you are alkaloid or caffeine tolerance is like. All I know is from personal experience jumping down to two scoops not always the best choice.

I really hope things work out better for you and you should give 1 1/2 scoops a try . How long before you took the Pre-Workout was your last meal? Do you take any beta blockers? There are some things that may interfere with the ingredients like grapefruit grapefruit juice may increase one or another of the ingredients potency. Once again I hope everything works out for you man you're a good guy.
 
bighulksmash said:
^^^ it definitely gave you a swift kick in the ass I'm just not sure it's the kind of kick in the ass that you were asking for. I had a similar experience a while back when I first tried mesomorph I went two Scoops right out of the gate because somebody said it was weak had a real bad experience that day. I waited 2 days then I went down to three quarters of a scoop and I absolutely fell in love with the feeling. Being that you haven't had any pre workout in over a year two scoops was in my opinion way too much for you. I don't know what you are alkaloid or caffeine tolerance is like. All I know is from personal experience jumping down to two scoops not always the best choice.

I really hope things work out better for you and you should give 1 1/2 scoops a try . How long before you took the Pre-Workout was your last meal? Do you take any beta blockers? There are some things that may interfere with the ingredients like grapefruit grapefruit juice may increase one or another of the ingredients potency. Once again I hope everything works out for you man you're a good guy.
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You may be right on the taking too much, I was kinda using the beta alinine as a marker for how it was messing with my body, just because it's an easy and consistent way to gauge the effects for me at least.

Def think I took too much I'll try to ramp it back but I typically have a energy drink every morning so I have a decent caffeine tolerance I'd like to think. Either way it handed me my ass on a silver platter and it was not enjoyable for me.

Last meal was 30 min before workout like I always do, something light and full of carbs. Often times on tuesdays and Thursday's it's something I've cooked, mondays wednesdays and Friday's it could be something I cooked or chipotle. I'm taking nothing else ATM except Test E and letrozol (coming off that tomorrow and going back to aromasin).
 
ChocolateClen said:
You may be right on the taking too much, I was kinda using the beta alinine as a marker for how it was messing with my body, just because it's an easy and consistent way to gauge the effects for me at least.

Def think I took too much I'll try to ramp it back but I typically have a energy drink every morning so I have a decent caffeine tolerance I'd like to think. Either way it handed me my ass on a silver platter and it was not enjoyable for me.

Last meal was 30 min before workout like I always do, something light and full of carbs. Often times on tuesdays and Thursday's it's something I've cooked, mondays wednesdays and Friday's it could be something I cooked or chipotle. I'm taking nothing else ATM except Test E and letrozol (coming off that tomorrow and going back to aromasin).
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Glad your ok bromisimo!
 
justhere4comm said:
Drink water. A lot of it. Hydrate.
I think you are crashing a tad from the stims.

Any walnuts or peanuts?
also grab some protein.

This will help you.

How's your heart rate ma man. Let us know.


Get Hydrated
Eat protein
Lay down and relax yourself.
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Heart rate dropped but it's still around 100-110. I grabbed some dinner and I'm drinking a lot more now. Wish I had a BP cuff to help you all out with that as well. I'm not as anxious anymore but it still comes and goes.
 
Sounds like it's working out though. Just keep on the water and you'll be fine before you know it
 
ChocolateClen said:
Heart rate dropped but it's still around 100-110. I grabbed some dinner and I'm drinking a lot more now. Wish I had a BP cuff to help you all out with that as well. I'm not as anxious anymore but it still comes and goes.
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That is good that you were able to finally come down a little. I absolutely hate the over anxious, can't relax feeling
 
SFreed said:
Sounds like it's working out though. Just keep on the water and you'll be fine before you know it
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Yeah I think I've drank like a gallon so far post workout. Can't tell you how many times I've been to the bathroom man like damn I can't even sit down for 10 min
 
ryane87 said:
That is good that you were able to finally come down a little. I absolutely hate the over anxious, can't relax feeling
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Yeah like typically I'm okay with it, I'll get it before like a big presentation and that helps because I know how to control and channel it but damn this one was just so intense I didn't know how to control it.
 
ChocolateClen said:
You may be right on the taking too much, I was kinda using the beta alinine as a marker for how it was messing with my body, just because it's an easy and consistent way to gauge the effects for me at least.

Def think I took too much I'll try to ramp it back but I typically have a energy drink every morning so I have a decent caffeine tolerance I'd like to think. Either way it handed me my ass on a silver platter and it was not enjoyable for me.

Last meal was 30 min before workout like I always do, something light and full of carbs. Often times on tuesdays and Thursday's it's something I've cooked, mondays wednesdays and Friday's it could be something I cooked or chipotle. I'm taking nothing else ATM except Test E and letrozol (coming off that tomorrow and going back to aromasin).
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energy drinks like monster and red bull don't even compare to a strong stimmed pre-workout [in particular those with dmaa]...a guy who works for me drinks monsters all day, I let him try a scoop of a popular high stimmed pre-workout/dmaa and he was blown away.
 
thebigt said:
energy drinks like monster and red bull don't even compare to a strong stimmed pre-workout [in particular those with dmaa]...a guy who works for me drinks monsters all day, I let him try a scoop of a popular high stimmed pre-workout/dmaa and he was blown away.
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But mixing your preworkout into your monster is where it's at lol
 
thebigt said:
energy drinks like monster and red bull don't even compare to a strong stimmed pre-workout [in particular those with dmaa]...a guy who works for me drinks monsters all day, I let him try a scoop of a popular high stimmed pre-workout/dmaa and he was blown away.
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No I totally agree but I know it wasn't the caffeine that caused this too me. That's a fact.
Alpha1agreda said:
But mixing your preworkout into your monster is where it's at lol
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Hahahahaha I've never had the need to do this
 
ChocolateClen said:
Heart rate dropped but it's still around 100-110. I grabbed some dinner and I'm drinking a lot more now. Wish I had a BP cuff to help you all out with that as well. I'm not as anxious anymore but it still comes and goes.
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Yep. Get on that BP and report back to your doctors!

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Vitamin C should help speed the water's effects. Someone validate that. I know it works for other adrenal overloads with stimulants such as Adderall.
 
my advice to u is space more time between food and PWO , I once ate a spicy burrito and took a popular fat burner just after it then realized there was 2 types of pepper in it plus the burrito ... long story short I had a mild ulcer for a few months. we are all here for support my brother !!!!


ChocolateClen said:
You may be right on the taking too much, I was kinda using the beta alinine as a marker for how it was messing with my body, just because it's an easy and consistent way to gauge the effects for me at least.

Def think I took too much I'll try to ramp it back but I typically have a energy drink every morning so I have a decent caffeine tolerance I'd like to think. Either way it handed me my ass on a silver platter and it was not enjoyable for me.

Last meal was 30 min before workout like I always do, something light and full of carbs. Often times on tuesdays and Thursday's it's something I've cooked, mondays wednesdays and Friday's it could be something I cooked or chipotle. I'm taking nothing else ATM except Test E and letrozol (coming off that tomorrow and going back to aromasin).
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justhere4comm said:
Yep. Get on that BP and report back to your doctors!

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Vitamin C should help speed the water's effects. Someone validate that. I know it works for other adrenal overloads with stimulants such as Adderall.
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Hahaha I can't afford a BP cuff right now, poor college student who only just got a job as a personal trainer at the school gym.

bighulksmash said:
my advice to u is space more time between food and PWO , I once ate a spicy burrito and took a popular fat burner just after it then realized there was 2 types of pepper in it plus the burrito ... long story short I had a mild ulcer for a few months. we are all here for support my brother !!!!
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Will do! I'll give it like an hour or so do you think that's enough time? I hate lifting on an empty stomach and I'm basically always hungry so
 
ChocolateClen said:
Hahaha I can't afford a BP cuff right now, poor college student who only just got a job as a personal trainer at the school gym.


Will do! I'll give it like an hour or so do you think that's enough time? I hate lifting on an empty stomach and I'm basically always hungry so
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Maybe grab an eaa/bcaa drink to drink on prior to and during. I use Xtend Perform because I train when I get up. Magnificent for that
 
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