Help Design My Next Stack !!

Rocket3015

Rocket3015

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I have a few items I have had in my stash for awhile and need used up, I never have enough confidence in my self to design a good stack, so I am asking for your help. I would like to add muscle with minimal body fat. I am 58 years old Lift 4 times a week and do cardio twice a week. I lift fasted in the am at home alone. If you have a question please ask.

Supplements in stash;

A: (60)
5a-Hydroxt-Laxogein 25mg
Androst-3,5Dien-7,17 Dione 25mg
(2S)-3(4-cyanophenoxy)-N-(4-cyano-3(tirfloromethyl) 10mg
phenyl}2-hydrox-2-methypropanamide
4-(R)-2-(R)-trifluoro-1-hydroxyethy)pyrrolidin-1-y 5mg
-2-trifluoroMethy)benzonitrile

B:(90)
2,3a-Epithio-17a-methyletioallo cholan-17b-ol 10mg

C: (60)
L-Carntine L-Tartate (LCLT) 5a-hydroxy laxgenin enpbosam 545mg

D: (90)
Cardar1ne 7mg

E:(60)
Diandrone 200mg

This is what I have, I am not opposed to buying something else to run with it. Please share your ideas. I will run a long with the stack what ever it is starting 2nd week in November!

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Let's have some fun !!!
 
my friend danes would say-run it all and double dose, lol.
 
Wow! Go balls out and just run em all! Lol. In for the progress!
 
Run it all for 6 weeks. Strongly consider seeking out an additional bottle of Epistane though so you can get the dosage up to 30-40mg; 20 is LOW and it has a short half life, but you really want 6 weeks on Epistane.

What is the Dianadrone?
 
Rocket3015 said:
How about it Danes
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So, you have :
A:
60 caps of a product containing:
5a Hydroxy Laxogenin 25mg
Arimistane 25mg
Ostarine 10mg
Lgd 4033 5mg

B:
90 caps of
Methylepitiostanol/epistane

C:

6 caps of a blend containing
L-Carntine L-Tartate (LCLT)
5a-hydroxy laxgenin
Ostarine (all 545mg)

D:
90 caps of
Cardarine 7mg

E:
60 Caps of
DHEA 200mg

?
 
Hyde said:
Run it all for 6 weeks. Strongly consider seeking out an additional bottle of Epistane though so you can get the dosage up to 30-40mg; 20 is LOW and it has a short half life, but you really want 6 weeks on Epistane.

What is the Dianadrone?
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Diandrone is regular DHEA
 
I guess I am just not brave enough
 
Danes said:
Do you want to run all those compounds together or do you want to split them?
I mean they would be a great stack all together.

Any of those compounds you have tried before?
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I think A & D

I am open to suggestions and also will to purchase something additional if it is recommended

Thank you for you help Danes
 
Rocket3015 said:
I think A & D

I am open to suggestions and also will to purchase something additional if it is recommended

Thank you for you help Danes
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No need to say thanks at all :)

Here is my opinion and I bet you will get most of that "cycle"

Since you have 60 caps of product containing:
A: 5a Hydroxy Laxogenin 25mg
Arimistane 25mg
Ostarine 10mg
Lgd 4033 5mg
This should be taken 2 caps daily (no matter if you take With or without Food or if you take 2 caps at the same time).
You will get 20mg Ostarine and 10mg LGD which is actually Nice dose :)
This will last 30 days .

You also have 90 caps of:
B: Methyl Epitiostanol/Epistane
IF you are going to run this (many People hate Epistane because it makes them feel like Death. Even With a good Test base), take 1 cap 3 times daily With Food. It will last 30 days and would be a good add to Number A.

6 caps of a blend containing:
L-Carntine L-Tartate (LCLT)
5a-hydroxy laxgenin
Ostarine (all 545mg
Since its just few caps, you can take them With A and B in the start :)

90 caps of:
D: Cardarine 7mg
Take it With A,B and C from the beginning. Many People take above 20mg, but I would rather go for 10mg for fatloss than dosing above 20mg. Many People say 10mg is enough for fat burning Properties while higher doses are better for endurance.
Take 2 caps daily and it will last 45 days. 14mg is a good dose.


60 Caps of :
E: DHEA 200mg
Take 2 caps daily so you are getting 400mg DHEA. Run from day one With A,B,C,D :) Personaly, I would go for stronger Test base if you are going to run Epistane.
Dermacrine is good, and OL Sup3r DHEA too! 4-Dhea would be even better. :)

As you see, this will be a short Cycle. But I mean its better to run 4 weeks With "proper" dosages than 8 weeks With Low dosages. :) If you have any questions, send me PM or ask here :)
 
I returned my Carderine, I'd run Osta on a cut, and LGD on a slight surplus (if fat paranoid like me, if not - during a "Bulk the F Up!") Ambivalent about Laxo, Oral DHEA is 'mezzo-mezzo', but being 58 helps, don't know Jack about Epistane.

Sorry, I'm no help - I hate 'Combo' products (the Osta and LGD combo is bugging me for some reason - maybe it's the worry of how high the possible cumulative side effects can go - for a 58 year old?). Listen to the other guys that are smarter than me.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
I returned my Carderine, I'd run Osta on a cut, and LGD on a slight surplus (if fat paranoid like me, if not - during a "Bulk the F Up!") Ambivalent about Laxo, Oral DHEA is 'mezzo-mezzo', but being 58 helps, don't know Jack about Epistane.

Sorry, I'm no help - I hate 'Combo' products (the Osta and LGD combo is bugging me for some reason - maybe it's the worry of how high the possible cumulative side effects can go - for a 58 year old?). Listen to the other guys that are smarter than me.
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I am not fan of combo/blends either but i hope he gets most of it stacked together:)
As long as he is healthy, 1 month with "normal" dosed LGD and Osta wouldnt do much harm :)
 
Danes Thank You! On supplement "C" I have 60 not 6 sorry.
 
Rocket3015 said:
Danes Thank You! On supplement "C" I have 60 not 6 sorry.
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Ah sorry, I thought it was just 6 (reading in your first post).
Well, since I dont know exactly how much Ostarine it is , I would keep that bottle for some other stacks. You are getting 20mg ostarine from A :)
 
Danes said:
Ah sorry, I thought it was just 6 (reading in your first post).
Well, since I dont know exactly how much Ostarine it is , I would keep that bottle for some other stacks. You are getting 20mg ostarine from A :)
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It did say 6 I fixed it!
 
This just got easier. Run the Osta/LGD blend product first month, then the unknown Osta dosage product the second month with the Epistane and DHEA. Carnitine helps scrub the androgen receptors and keeps them a tad more responsive and ostarine is better for longer stints than 4 weeks IMO. The DHEA will be there to help w lethargy as you will be shut down, the 30mg Epistane competes with any extra estrogen from the 400mg of DHEA daily (similar to masteron).

Cardarine starting the 3rd week til finish to help lipids that will inevitably suffer from the month of LGD followed by a month of Epistane.

I would never bother shutting myself down for just a 4 week blast. Even 6 seems questionable personally, considering the months it takes to normalize. This way you have 8 weeks to be on. This would work best as a recomp cycle, eat the first half on LGD and then tighten it up on the Epistane with Osta underneath the entire way thru.
 
fakenatty3 said:
Laxogenin should be ran at a min. of 100mg
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I would advocate adding a bottle of Hercules if you decide to up the Laxogenin. I logged a couple bottles and was actually impressed; something I can't say for any other Laxos I've tried.
 
I am liking the ideas here .................
 
Hyde said:
This just got easier. Run the Osta/LGD blend product first month, then the unknown Osta dosage product the second month with the Epistane and DHEA. Carnitine helps scrub the androgen receptors and keeps them a tad more responsive and ostarine is better for longer stints than 4 weeks IMO. The DHEA will be there to help w lethargy as you will be shut down, the 30mg Epistane competes with any extra estrogen from the 400mg of DHEA daily (similar to masteron).

Cardarine starting the 3rd week til finish to help lipids that will inevitably suffer from the month of LGD followed by a month of Epistane.

I would never bother shutting myself down for just a 4 week blast. Even 6 seems questionable personally, considering the months it takes to normalize. This way you have 8 weeks to be on. This would work best as a recomp cycle, eat the first half on LGD and then tighten it up on the Epistane with Osta underneath the entire way thru.
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^^^This is the best option I see without spending more money. If you purchased anything else I would recommend more Epistane unless you are plagued with joint issues. Epistane can really dry you up and increase definition and vascularity in 6 weeks at 30-40 mg.
 
At 58 years old I got joint issues !!
 
Rocket3015 said:
At 58 years old I got joint issues !!
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Then trade your bottle of epi to someone on the forum for another bottle of LGD! I love Epistane, but if you've never used it it can be hit or miss for many. I get strong and look better on it.

And no I don't have any LGD lol
 
Hyde said:
I would advocate adding a bottle of Hercules if you decide to up the Laxogenin. I logged a couple bottles and was actually impressed; something I can't say for any other Laxos I've tried.
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Upping the laxogenin while on research compounds or designer steroids would be total waste to be honest. :)
 
Hyde said:
Then trade your bottle of epi to someone on the forum for another bottle of LGD! I love Epistane, but if you've never used it it can be hit or miss for many. I get strong and look better on it.

And no I don't have any LGD lol
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I will give it a try and see how I feel...
 
Danes said:
Upping the laxogenin while on research compounds or designer steroids would be total waste to be honest. :)
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Why do you think added protein synthesis from a different source would be a waste? Besides, he's already going to be on it by default since its in a stacked product.

Furthermore, I noticed a decrease in joint pain while on a large dose IN MEET PREP. That is very telling (normally they go to hell with that kind of intensity). Something that could be welcome on Epistane.

Also, I'm not saying to buy more, just that Sparta makes the best I've used by far.
 
Hyde said:
Why do you think added protein synthesis from a different source would be a waste? Besides, he's already going to be on it by default since its in a stacked product.

Furthermore, I noticed a decrease in joint pain while on a large dose IN MEET PREP. That is very telling (normally they go to hell with that kind of intensity). Something that could be welcome on Epistane.

Also, I'm not saying to buy more, just that Sparta makes the best I've used by far.
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Because there is no proof Laxo boost proteinsynthesis at all. Those claims such as (boost proteinsynthesis 200%) is just made up. Bring me one study proving this even in animals :)
I do believe it has good anti inflammatory effects. Positive effects on joints etc.

Natural compounds which boost protein synthesis is just waste of time and money adding to synthetic anabolic compounds.
Running PA (even it proves to activate the mTOR signaling in humans) would be such a waste running with lets say Epistane.
 
Danes said:
Because there is no proof Laxo boost proteinsynthesis at all. Those claims such as (boost proteinsynthesis 200%) is just made up. Bring me one study proving this even in animals :)
I do believe it has good anti inflammatory effects. Positive effects on joints etc.

Natural compounds which boost protein synthesis is just waste of time and money adding to synthetic anabolic compounds.
Running PA (even it proves to activate the mTOR signaling in humans) would be such a waste running with lets say Epistane.
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Agreed on the lack of research entirely
 
I'm not sure about pro/syn but def helped with joint issues for me.
 
I Just need some Deca that will help the joints!
 
I am loving all the input here !! Thank you Guys !!
 
Thinking I should buy a second bottle of LGD ......
 
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