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CJNator said:
Trumps a nationalist, all the fake constitutionalists and libertarians are voting for him. It's scary how many self proclaimed constitutionalists, libertarians, ancaps, and conservatives are voting for him while he preaches words that go against said ideologies.
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Seems like they are really just voting on the lesser of two evils (and paper its extremely true at this stage) or they just dont know what they are getting into.

I can understand why in some ways why people would vote for Trump, but he is really a big question mark and in terms of defender of the individual and freedom, I think I already figured out what for the most part we are getting out of him, which isnt my cup of tea.
 
ax1 said:
I just looked a little into this, I dont have much time today but I saw one thing where he backed up and said "just chicago."

To me if you allow the violation of people's liberties in one area, it only sets the precedent to allow for it anywhere.

If he was a true champion of a leader he would be saying the Federal Government will enforce the Constitution in Chicago and allow the freedom and liberty of the right to bear arms so people can finally freaking protect themselves and their families against these thugs and criminals.
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I only like most of your post, LOL. I don't like the word thug, like I've said before. Criminal is fine.
 
CJNator said:
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That is a complete disaster to our country. This has already been going on heavily since 9/11 but Trump (even Hitlery) will put the final nail in the coffin.
 
ax1 said:
Seems like they are really just voting on the lesser of two evils (and paper its extremely true at this stage) or they just dont know what they are getting into.

I can understand why in some ways why people would vote for Trump, but he is really a big question mark and in terms of defender of the individual and freedom, I think I already figured out what for the most part we are getting out of him, which isnt my cup of tea.
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Yea it seems so, I totally understand too. One thing is that people generally rely on the system to fix itself and the economy. People can say trump isn't a politician but he is the lesser evil, a crony capitalist which isn't any better. Yea individuals won't be getting anything good out of him unless they are a true nationalist which at that point they are a collectivist.
 
ax1 said:
That is a complete disaster to our country. This has already been going on heavily since 9/11 but Trump (even Hitlery) will put the final nail in the coffin.
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I consistently think of who will be the final president, I don't think anything will happen until Marxism or nationalism becomes the cultural norm.
 
The real problem here is the racist white's perception of those fine young African Americans is wrong.

If I weren't a racist I wouldn't see those fine young men as black "thugs" attacking an innocent white kid at the first opportunity to rebel against what their warped impression and ignorance of the facts in this case - I'd see them as civic minded African American youths striving for equality.

All of their problems are the racist whites fault!
 
Misfit28 said:
I only like most of your post, LOL. I don't like the word thug, like I've said before. Criminal is fine.
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Whats wrong with thug? Thats is the issue as thug applies more of gang violence and is that not was is going on in Chicago?? It has nothing to do with race
 
David Dunn said:
The real problem here is the racist white's perception of those fine young African Americans is wrong.

If I weren't a racist I wouldn't see those fine young men as black "thugs" attacking an innocent white kid at the first opportunity to rebel against what their warped impression and ignorance of the facts in this case - I'd see them as civic minded African American youths striving for equality.

All of their problems are the racist whites fault!
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Ya its the racist whites who force them into gangs! Force them to kill people! Force them to steal! Mass roits! Etc etc


Sure there are LOTS of exception that arent in this group of people. There are LOTS of great black people.

However we cant ingore that stats that they are also more likely to fit in this "thug" category. Im not saying we should treat them any different because of that. They are human beings and deserve respect, also they arent they only "thugs". Although them blaming their problems on whites is NOT going fix anything nor is it true. I dont remeber there ever being any white people forcing blacks to be in gangs. Just saying.
 
rtmilburn said:
Ya its the racist whites who force them into gangs! Force them to kill people! Force them to steal! Mass roits! Etc etc


Sure there are LOTS of exception that arent in this group of people. There are LOTS of great black people.

However we cant ingore that stats that they are also more likely to fit in this "thug" category. Im not saying we should treat them any different because of that. They are human beings and deserve respect, also they arent they only "thugs". Although them blaming their problems on whites is NOT going fix anything nor is it true. I dont remeber there ever being any white people forcing blacks to be in gangs. Just saying.
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I think it was sarcasm but I wouldn't be surprise if it wasn't. Anyways racism isn't even a legitimate issue but it is a issue that people see it as a legitimate issue. The increase of this welfare state is the issue, poverty equals crime and welfare keeps those in poverty dependent on the government as a means of survival. Within that group people either depend on government or crime to keep themselves alive. I haven't look into it too much but sociology can be very informative if said person isn't a liberal Marxist.
 
CJNator said:
I think it was sarcasm but I wouldn't be surprise if it wasn't. Anyways racism isn't even a legitimate issue but it is a issue that people see it as a legitimate issue. The increase of this welfare state is the issue, poverty equals crime and welfare keeps those in poverty dependent on the government as a means of survival. Within that group people either depend on government or crime to keep themselves alive. I haven't look into it too much but sociology can be very informative if said person isn't a liberal Marxist.
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I agree with you 100%
 
CJNator said:
I think it was sarcasm but I wouldn't be surprise if it wasn't. Anyways racism isn't even a legitimate issue but it is a issue that people see it as a legitimate issue. The increase of this welfare state is the issue, poverty equals crime and welfare keeps those in poverty dependent on the government as a means of survival. Within that group people either depend on government or crime to keep themselves alive. I haven't look into it too much but sociology can be very informative if said person isn't a liberal Marxist.
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That same government sends trillions to the Middle East for their sociological issues.

The issues with inner cities and welfare can be perpetuated or solved by our government. Keeping welfare keeps government employees so it will never go away. If they give them a hand up it will reduce their dependency so again not gonna happen.

As stated before. There is national level enabling and codependency going on.

This is not your average middle class white suburban racists fault!

Edit: not everyone in competent enough to enjoy the freedom to prosper and the pursuit of happiness. Some will always seek and find their lowest level.
 
David Dunn said:
That same government sends trillions to the Middle East for their sociological issues.

The issues with inner cities and welfare can be perpetuated or solved by our government. Keeping welfare keeps government employees so it will never go away. If they give them a hand up it will reduce their dependency so again not gonna happen.

As stated before. There is national level enabling and codependency going on.

This is not your average middle class white suburban racists fault!
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This welfare state is a product of government intervention or just government generally, the only way it can be solved is with free market solutions. Yes welfare won't go away while the government is around, that's why I don't condone any government interventionism or government generally. Saying government intervention will solve said problem caused by government intervention will only create a domino effect, leading to the fall of the market and rise of communism or socialism. People should look towards free market solutions, in Chicago there is a private security that's is helping more then police officers Invalid Link Removed obviously it only helps the block they patrol on but that's why more people should look into free market solutions.
 
"While the public shouldn't expect to see the video, Todd Walther, spokesman for the Charlotte Fraternal Order of Police, told CNN that he viewed the footage, and it demonstrated Scott was "an obvious threat" to police officers. He said Scott can be seen with a gun and ankle holster in the video.

Scott was in a vehicle when police arrived to serve a warrant on another man at an apartment complex, he said. Some of the officers were not in uniform, but they still had vests or jackets that said "police" on the front and back, Walther said.

"He was seated in (the car) when he was approached, but when he exited that vehicle, he was given clear commands to drop the weapon -- and he did not do that," Walther said. "So he was armed when he came out of that vehicle and refused to listen to officers."

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Another "armed black male resisting LE" gets shot and this time it's a black cop.

When I call out the "profile" I'm a racist. Yet by most accounts every single black shot by white or black cops fits many of the same profile characteristics I am a racist for vocalizing.

Does the fight for black equality have the prerequisite of being a "criminal" or are we lumping ALL blacks into the status of African Americans fighting for the cause of black equality.

Clearly not all black African Americans are criminal but when the criminal black meets the consequences of his own actions of criminal behavior he does not represent those who are legitimately experiencing true inequality as they are criminals and not equal. Yet these criminals always spark the flames of the debate over the casim of inequality and ironically they are the problem element of their own race and are in no way victims of inequality but victims of their own cultural and social lifestyle choices. Not even the same issue.

I'm still a racist...
 
Zach Galifianakis interviews Hillary:
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"As secretary, how many words per minute could you type? And how does President Obama like his coffee? Like himself? Weak?"

When asked if she would move to Canada if Trump became president, Clinton answered, “I will stay in the United States.”

Galifianakis: And what would you try to —
Clinton: Try to prevent him from destroying the United States.
Galifianakis: So you’re gonna lead the civil war?
Clinton: No, I wouldn’t take up arms. I think that might be a little extreme.
Galifianakis: Oh, right, because you were saying before we were rolling that you wanted to take away everyone’s guns. Very cool.
Clinton: I really regret doing this.

And at the end of the interview: “Well this has been a lot of fun, Mrs. Clinton, we should stay in touch. What’s the best way to reach you? Email?”
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Between two ferns is always awesome! I actually give her credit for having the sense of humor to go on there, but cringe at the things that aren't really joking material.
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Galifianakis is always great. I do give her and Obama credit for actually doing it. The Obama one was pretty good too:

"When the actor asked Obama if he's sorry that he can't run for a third term, the president snarked, "I think it's a good idea. If I ran a third time it would be sort of like doing a third 'Hangover' movie. It didn't really work out very well, did it?""

Obama: Health Care-dot-gov works great now and millions of Americans have already gotten health insurance plans and what we want is for people to know that you can get affordable health care and most young Americans, right now they’re not covered and the truth is they can get coverage all for what it costs to pay your cell phone bill.

Galifianakis: Is this what they mean by drones?
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Zach Galifianakis interviews Hillary:
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"As secretary, how many words per minute could you type? And how does President Obama like his coffee? Like himself? Weak?"

When asked if she would move to Canada if Trump became president, Clinton answered, “I will stay in the United States.”

Galifianakis: And what would you try to —
Clinton: Try to prevent him from destroying the United States.
Galifianakis: So you’re gonna lead the civil war?
Clinton: No, I wouldn’t take up arms. I think that might be a little extreme.
Galifianakis: Oh, right, because you were saying before we were rolling that you wanted to take away everyone’s guns. Very cool.
Clinton: I really regret doing this.

And at the end of the interview: “Well this has been a lot of fun, Mrs. Clinton, we should stay in touch. What’s the best way to reach you? Email?”
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That was funny as ****, I'll miss him when he gets suicided....
 
Gutterpump said:
Grrrrrr tough guy Conservative! Liberals are all weak ***** f@gotts!!!!
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He does have a point though. The term thugs was used alot in 90s and early 2000s for skateboards.

Btw im not saying was only used for that but an example to show it wasnt a race thing
 
rtmilburn said:
He does have a point though. The term thugs was used alot in 90s and early 2000s for skateboards.

Btw im not saying was only used for that but an example to show it wasnt a race thing
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His comment about liberals being pussies, or turning everyone into pussies, is god dam laughable though

Same as his comments about most black men being deadbeats.

But since he's an Irish/Italian (or one or the other - can't remember) from NYC, these are pretty typical statements.
 
Gutterpump said:
His comment about liberals being pussies, or turning everyone into pussies, is god dam laughable though

Same as his comments about most black men being deadbeats.

But since he's an Irish/Italian (or one or the other - can't remember) from NYC, these are pretty typical statements.
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Haha true
 
Gutterpump said:
His comment about liberals being pussies, or turning everyone into pussies, is god dam laughable though

Same as his comments about most black men being deadbeats.

But since he's an Irish/Italian (or one or the other - can't remember) from NYC, these are pretty typical statements.
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I'm going to assume that irony was intentional. :)
 
muscleupcrohn said:
This, the only difference is what subjects they're sensitive to, really.
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Yea but to an extent, most conservatives and liberals aren't what they claim to be. They usually understand the policies and call themselves whatever because of the policies that fall under said ideology but the culture they are brought up on is a bigger factor. Traditionalists tend to be nationalists and progressives tend to be Marxists. In the end though if you question their government they'll turn on you like rabid dogs.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I'm going to assume that irony way intentional. :)
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Yeah Irish- a "Mick" witch btw is the origin of the work "Spick" and both traditionally being Catholic as well.

Are drunks or drink all day.

An Irishman walked out of a bar one day...
...it can happen!

Italian - WOP which is a literal acronym for Italian immigrants "Without Papers"
Guinea which implies that Italians are not actually white.
Goomba refers to mob bosses and gangsters and might I add "thug"

These are all derogatory "words" that diminish my value in no way nor do I empower anyone who uses them on me with the power to offend me by taking exception to them. When I take exception to them I validate and empower the derogatory.

I see or feel nothing derogatory when anyone calls we any of those nor do I embrace those of my same ethnicity with the same as a term of endearment unlike others do. I do walk the talk.

I don't think GP meant that in that way but then again I'm "insensitive" to those. It could be the "New Yorker" that he was referring to. We all know how "they" are. :)

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muscleupcrohn said:
I'm going to assume that irony was intentional. :)
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No irony. I have a lot of experience with Irish/Italian communities in NYC. Very traditional. Very racist. Very intolerant. Most of them blue collar workers with very limited intelligence. I'm not downplaying blue collar workers, I have utmost respect for those who serve, but no respect for intolerance/ignorance.
 
Gutterpump said:
No irony. I have a lot of experience with Irish/Italian communities in NYC. Very traditional. Very racist. Very intolerant. Most of them blue collar workers with very limited intelligence. I'm not downplaying blue collar workers, I have utmost respect for those who serve, but no respect for intolerance/ignorance.
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Are you at least aware of the irony? You've called him out before for stereotyping various groups (blacks, liberals, etc), and then stereotype a group yourself. What makes your stereotyping of a group less offensive than his?
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Are you at least aware of the irony? You've called him out before for stereotyping various groups (blacks, liberals, etc), and then stereotype a group yourself. What makes your stereotyping of a group less offensive than his?
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Becausec he's s flaming f@ggot bleeding heart Pussey liberal. :D

They can do that - be hypocrites.

At least he elevated me to limited intelligence and to having a collar and a blue one at that.

It must be the education that grows manginas.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Are you at least aware of the irony? You've called him out before for stereotyping various groups (blacks, liberals, etc), and then stereotype a group yourself. What makes your stereotyping of a group less offensive than his?
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I'm just fanning his flames. Cos he's definitely flaming.
 
Gutterpump said:
I'm just fanning his flames. Cos he's definitely flaming.
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You're as predictable as you are entertaining. I'll do all I can to fulfill every stereotype you want to make of me. Many of the grandparents and great grandparents of those ignorant unintelligent and intolerant Irish and Italians are what made and makes that city and this country great.
 
Misfit28 said:
How often have you seen a white person called a thug? Just curious.
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I certainly have, but its more common in my area for blacks to call themselves and other blacks thugs.

In before "racist" slogan.
 
CJNator said:
Yea but to an extent, most conservatives and liberals aren't what they claim to be. They usually understand the policies and call themselves whatever because of the policies that fall under said ideology but the culture they are brought up on is a bigger factor. Traditionalists tend to be nationalists and progressives tend to be Marxists. In the end though if you question their government they'll turn on you like rabid dogs.
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Most people in the US are moderates and stand in the middle. A recent poll said something like 70% of Americans fall in the middle. So generalized comments about Liberals or Conservatives are ridiculous.
 
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