Space X rocket explosion, a detailed break down.

ChocolateClen

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As most people know Space X lost a Falcon 9 rocket on Thursday morning. The rocket was upright for a static burn test to make sure the rocket didn't have any issues, this also means that the rocket had the Playload attached, a 195million dollar communications satellite called the AMOS-6.

So here's what happened. The rocket sat on the launch pad in an upright position, like it would for the real launch. While it was being loaded with liquid fuel and oxidizer, the second stage exploded. This released hundreds of tons of liquid fuel and oxidizer which readily mixed to create a massive fireball and a loud resonating boom. You can then see the still flaming fuel fall back to earth before the first stage explodes due to integrity issues.

At this point the 200million dollar satellite has nothing to hold itself up except the strong back tower used to secure the rocket, so it falls some 50 odd meters. The satellite fueled by hydrazine crashes into the earth creating yet again another large explosion. (Hydrazine creates a very toxic gas when it burns, the toxicity depends on what it's burned with).

At this point we can conclude that the launch pad is not only unusable, but ruined. The strong back arm has sustained heavy structural damage and there is a continuing investigation as to what happened.

Elon musk stated that if there were crew on board in his new dragon capsule, they would have safely escaped using the dragons built in launch abort systems.

As a side note, this is the biggest rocket explosion in the history of the United States.
 
Elon musk stated that if there were crew on board in his new dragon capsule, they would have safely escaped using the dragons built in launch abort systems.
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I don't see how he can make that claim so confidently. Accidents happen and if he had the power to think of every possible scenario, this explosion never would have happened.
 
I don't see how he can make that claim so confidently. Accidents happen and if he had the power to think of every possible scenario, this explosion never would have happened.
The dragon capsule has a launch escape thrust of 300+m/s (I think it's closer to 500). So using that, if the capsule aborted mission right after the 2nd stage failure, they would have been well out of harms way by a few hundred meters at which point they could parachute back down.
 
The dragon capsule has a launch escape thrust of 300+m/s (I think it's closer to 500). So using that, if the capsule aborted mission right after the 2nd stage failure, they would have been well out of harms way by a few hundred meters at which point they could parachute back down.

I fully understand how it's supposed to work. I just find it odd and arrogant to be making claims like that when this accident just happened. You can do the math and run simulations, but accidents happen. It's not a jab at the technology or what he has accomplished.
 
I fully understand how it's supposed to work. I just find it odd and arrogant to be making claims like that when this accident just happened. You can do the math and run simulations, but accidents happen. It's not a jab at the technology or what he has accomplished.

True, but you also have to take into account that the Falcon 9 has never had any major issues, it's always their second stages. I'd also argue that the dragon is more advanced then Orion is.
 
Maybe I'm completely missing the point that you're trying to make, but the Falcon 9 is a two-stage rocket. How is the second stage not part of the Falcon 9?
The falcon 9 in this context refers to the low returnable portion of the rocket where the 9 comes from the 9 Merlin engines. The 2nd stage (which is a part) has been changed based before on the required mission.

The first stage is extremely reliable where as the second stage has had multiple issues before.

If you were to ask people in the general population what the Falcon 9 was they would pull up the landed 1st stage.
 
The falcon 9 in this context refers to the low returnable portion of the rocket where the 9 comes from the 9 Merlin engines. The 2nd stage (which is a part) has been changed based before on the required mission.

The first stage is extremely reliable where as the second stage has had multiple issues before.

If you were to ask people in the general population what the Falcon 9 was they would pull up the landed 1st stage.

Why would I ask the general population anything? The general population believes in bigfoot and that vaccines are bad lol. I only care what SpaceX says and that is the Falcon 9 refers to both. If there was no second stage, it wouldn't be a two-stage rocket. That's why I'm saying that they are responsible for the entire thing. And Dragon may have saved passengers if they had been there, but I think it's a bit cocky to claim that all of the failsafes work when they just had an accident. I understand why he is making the claim from an investor point-of-view though.
 
General population also believes steroids will make you kill everyone around you and ruining your life lol

Either way theyve got work to do cleaning up with them trying to still reuse rockets
 
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