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Strength gains from natty supps

7mdon9

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I know that there are other avenues to help with strength gain (not ready to venture that way) but are there any "natty supps" that stand out.
 
Androcrine by BPS is a transdermal Laxogenin that has had some great responses on here, granted I'm a rep, I've ran it and loved it but you definitely don't have to take my word for it just read through since of the logs.

PS: Sep20 code will get you 20% off your order on BPS's website plus entered to win $100 store credit.

I also hear great things about combining SNS XGels & Tr1umph by OL to be awesome for pounding through limitation, got 3 bottles of ARA (active ingredient in XGels) plus working on a 2nd bottle of Tr1umph lines up to run after my next PH cycle.
 
7mdon9 said:
Would a td be the better way to go? Or is it more of a personal preference?
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I've read Laxo is better transdermal and Epicat (another natty anabolic) is better for oral so that's how I run them. I like to run those together.
 
7mdon9 said:
I know that there are other avenues to help with strength gain (not ready to venture that way) but are there any "natty supps" that stand out.
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There are a few natural supplements that really deliver results. These are my top recommendations for natural supplements:

X-Gels (ArA
Tr1umph (PA)
Alphamax XT

These three products have been getting the best feedback across the board with most users. I think Alphamax XT would be a great choice to try as a solo supplement. It has a very complete profile that can help increase natural testosterone, limit cortisol and estrogen levels, and improve recovery and sleep quality. Alphamax XT is a great all-in-one product that targets muscle and strength gain from multiple angles. It also contains forskolin, which can help decrease body fat while maintaining muscle mass.

Aside from natural supplements above, are you currently taking any staple supplements? (creatine, betaine, fish oil, etc.?)
 
john.patterson said:
There are a few natural supplements that really deliver results. These are my top recommendations for natural supplements:

X-Gels (ArA
Tr1umph (PA)
Alphamax XT

These three products have been getting the best feedback across the board with most users. I think Alphamax XT would be a great choice to try as a solo supplement. It has a very complete profile that can help increase natural testosterone, limit cortisol and estrogen levels, and improve recovery and sleep quality. Alphamax XT is a great all-in-one product that targets muscle and strength gain from multiple angles. It also contains forskolin, which can help decrease body fat while maintaining muscle mass.

Aside from natural supplements above, are you currently taking any staple supplements? (creatine, betaine, fish oil, etc.?)
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Yea, I take creatine, fish oil, magnesium, bcaa's, multi vitamin.
I did just drop 25 lbs since April (just from eating clean, no other changes) and my strength seemed to drop off over the last month or 2. I have been monitoring my macros and I know I need to eat more too.
 
7mdon9 said:
Yea, I take creatine, fish oil, magnesium, bcaa's, multi vitamin.
I did just drop 25 lbs since April (just from eating clean, no other changes) and my strength seemed to drop off over the last month or 2. I have been monitoring my macros and I know I need to eat more too.
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The leaner you get the more strength starts to go, when I'm super lean 225 for reps on bench becomes a chore and I cry in the corner.
 
john.patterson said:
There are a few natural supplements that really deliver results. These are my top recommendations for natural supplements:

X-Gels (ArA
Tr1umph (PA)
Alphamax XT

These three products have been getting the best feedback across the board with most users. I think Alphamax XT would be a great choice to try as a solo supplement. It has a very complete profile that can help increase natural testosterone, limit cortisol and estrogen levels, and improve recovery and sleep quality. Alphamax XT is a great all-in-one product that targets muscle and strength gain from multiple angles. It also contains forskolin, which can help decrease body fat while maintaining muscle mass.

Aside from natural supplements above, are you currently taking any staple supplements? (creatine, betaine, fish oil, etc.?)
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Definitely agree with this. X gels and alphamax xt would be a great stack.
 
I would add creatine and betaine, for basic ingredients. You could supplement with PowerMax XT which provides a full 5 grams of creatine and 2.5 grams of betaine per dose. It is a complete ergogenic aid, with other ingredients as well, which all work together to boost performance, reduce fatigue and increase recovery.

The benefits of creatine cannot be denied. Increase in strength and muscle size, decrease in fatigue improved hydration, etc.

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Betaine has a multitude of benefits as well including increasing performance, strength, endurance and even protein synthesis. Yes, these are two basic ingredients, but sometimes the most basic things are the most useful.

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7mdon9 said:
Yea, I take creatine, fish oil, magnesium, bcaa's, multi vitamin.
I did just drop 25 lbs since April (just from eating clean, no other changes) and my strength seemed to drop off over the last month or 2. I have been monitoring my macros and I know I need to eat more too.
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Congrats on the progress man, that's incredible! I would definitely dial in your diet and increase calories if you feel your aren't eating enough. I think Alphamax XT would be a great product for where you're at. I have used it successfully to stay lean while increasing calories to get stronger and put on muscle. I think it'd be a great fit for where you're currently at with your progress. Keep up the good work!
 
Kool4445 said:
Does OL tr1umph need PCT?
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Many moons ago, there was a product called tr1umph that was Methyldiazirinol, which may have caused the confusion. The new TR1UMPH is a completely natural anabolic that does not require PCT.

For natty strength gains, no-matter what additional products you choose, TR1UMPH should be the base. It has 16 fully-dosed anabolic aids that promote strength, muscle protein synthesis, and recovery. Not only does it have the biggies, Creatine, Betaine and Phosphatidic Acid, but you're also getting Alpha GPC, ElevATP, LCLT, and Stearoyl Vanillylamide among others.

If I was looking to boost strength naturally, my go-to stack would be TR1UMPH + X-Gels. You can, of course, stack something on top of that, but those two together are unbeatable, imo.
 
lifted67 said:
The leaner you get the more strength starts to go, when I'm super lean 225 for reps on bench becomes a chore and I cry in the corner.
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lol tell me about it man...thank goodness for today's supps. I've been able to maintain most of my strength down to ~10% bf. If I go below that, though, the weights start dropping fast.
 
Lynks8 said:
lol tell me about it man...thank goodness for today's supps. I've been able to maintain most of my strength down to ~10% bf. If I go below that, though, the weights start dropping fast.
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I nearly busted my $h1+ pulling 405 on a deadlift when I weighed 165 and that was an enhanced cut with S4, since then I've learned to leave ego lifting at the door and focus on size and strength.
 
lifted67 said:
I nearly busted my $h1+ pulling 405 on a deadlift when I weighed 165 and that was an enhanced cut with S4, since then I've learned to leave ego lifting at the door and focus on size and strength.
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Damn. 405@165 is impressive! As I get older, I too am straying from chasing PR's and focusing more on mind/muscle and time-under-tension.

Kool4445 said:
My only grief is the fat content when I'm dieting down.....
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Thankfully, 8g fat doesn't affect my macros much, but I hear ya.
 
X-gels + ANABETA ELITE would be a great stack to consider as well. x-gels stacks very well with other natty supps that have been mentioned. You can't go wrong with the previously mentioned products. Great and reputable companies as well!
 
Apart from the aforementioned I just finished a month on PES Ergonine and would recommend it for improving reps and strength.
 
lifted67 said:
Androcrine by BPS is a transdermal Laxogenin that has had some great responses on here, granted I'm a rep, I've ran it and loved it but you definitely don't have to take my word for it just read through since of the logs.

PS: Sep20 code will get you 20% off your order on BPS's website plus entered to win $100 store credit.

I also hear great things about combining SNS XGels & Tr1umph by OL to be awesome for pounding through limitation, got 3 bottles of ARA (active ingredient in XGels) plus working on a 2nd bottle of Tr1umph lines up to run after my next PH cycle.
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I ram a laxo product from olympus labs before, I couldnt tell if it was placebo or not but my strength felt friggin great with that stuff. However, most lax products needed to be adjusted since they were underdosed.
 
BPS Androcrine, 5 pumps is 100mg which is the recorded dose to see benefits, that's last you about 28 days. Not sure what OL doses for Str3ngth.
 
lifted67 said:
BPS Androcrine, 5 pumps is 100mg which is the recorded dose to see benefits, that's last you about 28 days. Not sure what OL doses for Str3ngth.
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No idea, however , I stacked it with soy granules (PA) and it was pretty impressive for a natural sup.
 
So comparable in dosing, just different in the amount of pumps to get there....

The amount of pumps needed differs from person to person...(no longer taking about Laxo hahaha)
 
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