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First cycle advice

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Hey everyone ive been lurking in the forums for about a year now just gathering info and learning all that i can from everyone and i finally decided on a first cycle. Any advice or constructive criticism is appreciated!
Age: 23
Height: 6'
Weight 180~
Training experience: 5 years
Ok so im conflicted between 6 or 8 week. 6 week would look like:
Epiandro 400
1 andro 440
4 andro 440
Blockade
PCT Nolva 20/20/10/10 Clomid 50/25/25/25
Post cycle x3
Daa.
8 week would just be everything down 100mg. I also have Bsl eradicate if needed. Appreciate any help you guys are willing to offer.
 
With nolva + clomid, you should be good for a 8 weeks cycle, as long as you have a good AI, because you're running those compound at a high dosage
 
Whats the advantage to running 8 weeks at 300 opposed to 6 weeks at 400?
 
BroBrian said:
Whats the advantage to running 8 weeks at 300 opposed to 6 weeks at 400?
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Andros don't really start to kick in results wise until about week 3/4 so at six weeks you're kind of cutting your results short. The Andros are relatively mild compounds too, so with adequate On Cycle Support and Clever PCT you should come out of it safe, healthy, happy and with some solid keepable gainz
 
I like the 8 week option better for your first cycle.

I would not recommend you run 2 SERMs at full suggested doses for an 8 week Andro run. Nolva @ 20/20/10/10 should be more than enough in this situation. Figure out how you respond to one SERM before you needlessly start stacking them. If for whatever reason you decide to use both SERMs (which has it's advantages), lower the dosages. Also, if using both SERMs, take your can of DAA and throw it in the trash. The SERMs will boost your test WAY BETTER than that crap.

If you are planning on cycling, you should always have a legit AI on hand, such as exemestane.

Will you be getting before and after bloodwork done to see where you are now and how you recover after PCT?
 
Thanks for the reply! I had already bought nolva but then from what ive read on here it seems like most people find clomid to be the better of the two for hpta recovery and i just wanted to be as safe as possible. I will however listen and take your advice if you think i will be find with only nolva. If i do run only Nolva though, should i keep the daa? Yes ive had bloodwork done about a month ago and will also be getting bloods post cycle as well. My doc is fully informed on what im doing.
 
BroBrian said:
Thanks for the reply! I had already bought nolva but then from what ive read on here it seems like most people find clomid to be the better of the two for hpta recovery and i just wanted to be as safe as possible. I will however listen and take your advice if you think i will be find with only nolva. If i do run only Nolva though, should i keep the daa? Yes ive had bloodwork done about a month ago and will also be getting bloods post cycle as well. My doc is fully informed on what im doing.
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The choice is yours whether or not you want to use Nolva or Clomid for your PCT. I prefer Nolva (if using only one) but many others prefer Clomid. If you feel more comfortable using Clomid in PCT, that would be fine, and then that would leave you with Nolva to use for on cycle protection if you ever had any issues with gyno.

I don't personally care for DAA and it shouldn't be necessary if your SERM is legit. If you want to take it, the choice is yours. Some users have noticed a rise in prolactin levels while consuming DAA. I think DAA is mostly hype and there is conflicting research on the substance. Plus I think it tastes like crap.. Lol.

Good call on the bloodwork and involving your doctor!! It's nice to see that. Good luck on your cycle.
 
So drop the daa and eradicate, pick up aromasin and use only if needed correct? Dosing at 12.5 eod or..?
 
BroBrian said:
So drop the daa and eradicate, pick up aromasin and use only if needed correct? Dosing at 12.5 eod or..?
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If it were me, I'd drop the DAA but I don't think it's a game-changer whether you use it or not. You could use the Eradicate on cycle or during PCT if you want; It has it's place. Yes, always have a legit AI on hand IMO, and use it if the need arises. You could also add it into your PCT but I would be cautious of dosing it too high.

For on-cycle usage (if necessary) 12.5mg EOD or E3D is a solid starting point. If the Exemestane was pharma (Rx) and the symptoms were mild, I'd suggest 6.25mg EOD to start.
 
BroBrian said:
So drop the daa and eradicate, pick up aromasin and use only if needed correct? Dosing at 12.5 eod or..?
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PCT
(Inc Aromasin) and your DAA, as you seem eager to use it

Week 1
Clomid 50mg ED

Week 2
Clomid 25mg ED

Week 3
Clomid 25mg ED

Week 4
Clomid 25mg ED
Aromasin 6.25mg ED

Week 5
Clomid 12.5mg ED
Aromasin 6.25mg ED

Week 6
Aromasin 6.25mg ED

Week 7
Aromasin 6.25mg ED
DAA
PCT X3

Week 8
Aromasin 6.25mg ED
DAA
PCT X3

Week 9
DAA
PCT X3

Week 10
DAA
PCT X3
 
Not eager to use it, just already have it so I don't really want to waste my money, even though buying it in the first place seems to be a waste lol.
 
BroBrian said:
Not eager to use it, just already have it so I don't really want to waste my money, even though buying it in the first place seems to be a waste lol.
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I'm not a fan of DAA myself but some people swear by it and if there was ever a time to use it, those last 4 weeks of PCT would be your ideal time
 
BroBrian said:
Hard rock. Androvar, super mandro, andro the giant
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Nice full dosed products. Cycle looks good and you should definitely see some nice gains. I really doubt you will need pharma ai but always good to have on hand.
 
By the way 400 mg Is not a high dosage. Should be good since its your first cycle but ive ran it multiple times in the past and the gains between something like 300-400mg and 600-700mg Is far from the same! And i had no sides difference between the two cycles
 
Math33 said:
By the way 400 mg Is not a high dosage. Should be good since its your first cycle but ive ran it multiple times in the past and the gains between something like 300-400mg and 600-700mg Is far from the same! And i had no sides difference between the two cycles
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No difference of sides even with a 300mg increase? What sides did you get from the Epi-Andro?
 
U should just post a few updates if u have the time ide be interested in seeing how this goes for you, or just before and after stats
 
InItForGainz said:
No difference of sides even with a 300mg increase? What sides did you get from the Epi-Andro?
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Only side i got on my 1andro/epi-andro 600mg was MILD lethargy week 5 to 8 but nothing like some methyl ive done lol. And some night sweating which im prone to and its no big deal
 
Math33 said:
Only side i got on my 1andro/epi-andro 600mg was MILD lethargy week 5 to 8 but nothing like some methyl ive done lol. And some night sweating which im prone to and its no big deal
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Epistane made me feel like sh** for days, huge lethargy and yet I didn't do more that 4 weeks on it.
 
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