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Yes, I think the same and the company is reliable in my opinion. I don't know what to say and think. Anyone with same issues?
 
Feiwong said:
Very disappointed with the dosage (not for effectiveness). I'm at the end of the 2th week at 4ml (250mg) dosed with an oral siringe and is almost finished. I think that at that dose last only 2 weeks. Very very disappointed...........
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noway it was half a bottle ...
when u got ur bottle did u check if it was leaking ?
 
My fist bottle lasted me 29 days using the pump. Just started my second bottle, but I plan on mixing with DMSO and alcohol this time. Today I just used the pump and applied the DMSO after due to time... or lack there of. Has anyone ever had an itchy almost pins and needles feeling from DMSO?
 
hamdysayed said:
interesting, even with a syringe ?
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Yup. My syringe measured 2.5ml so that might have caused it but I did always fill to 2.5ml and removed some. Also at the bottom of my Tupperware thing where I have it the gel got really thick and with some white grainy stuff. I'm guessing this thing settles at the bottom not sure though maybe the end is a lot stronger if that is possible idk
 
Feiwong said:
Very disappointed with the dosage (not for effectiveness). I'm at the end of the 2th week at 4ml (250mg) dosed with an oral siringe and is almost finished. I think that at that dose last only 2 weeks. Very very disappointed...........
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raul87 said:
Mine didn't last 4 whole weeks just a tad over 3
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KC41 said:
My fist bottle lasted me 29 days using the pump. Just started my second bottle, but I plan on mixing with DMSO and alcohol this time. Today I just used the pump and applied the DMSO after due to time... or lack there of. Has anyone ever had an itchy almost pins and needles feeling from DMSO?
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raul87 said:
Yup. My syringe measured 2.5ml so that might have caused it but I did always fill to 2.5ml and removed some. Also at the bottom of my Tupperware thing where I have it the gel got really thick and with some white grainy stuff. I'm guessing this thing settles at the bottom not sure though maybe the end is a lot stronger if that is possible idk
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My first bottle lasted me about 26 or 27 days using the pump. I added 24 ml of 91% alcohol and 24 ml of DMSO to two bottles of Sup3r-11 and mixed it in a heat bath. I've been dosing with an oral syring at 2.4 ml 2X per day (2 ml sup3r-11 + 0.4 ml of the added alcohol and DMSO) and I've been eyeing the Tupperware container because it should last me about 2 months at this dose and it's looking like I've gone through a good amount of it in just over 2 weeks. It's hard to say but I was worrying and now that these reports are in, I'm even more nervous. I'll just have to wait and see how long it lasts. Wish I hadn't put the two bottles together now.

Oh, and even the small amount of DMSO in my mix sometimes causes my skin to burn a little or get itchy. Not pins and needles, but burning and itching.
 
Been lethargic the last week or two. Any possible correlation? Decided to up to 500mg to end at 7 weeks instead of 8.
 
Feiwong said:
Yes, I think the same and the company is reliable in my opinion. I don't know what to say and think. Anyone with same issues?
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My first bottle only lasted 19 days or so but I was using the pump and I was clearly getting way over the expected amount. Since switching over to the oral syringe, all good.
 
Not pertaining to Super-11, but I've had a couple of bottles of DermaStrength that only lasted ~20 days measured with an oral syringe.

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Scoons33 said:
My first bottle only lasted 19 days or so but I was using the pump and I was clearly getting way over the expected amount. Since switching over to the oral syringe, all good.
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Glad to hear switching over has been all good, brother!

crowbar46 said:
Not pertaining to Super-11, but I've had a couple of bottles of DermaStrength that only lasted ~20 days measured with an oral syringe.

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Again, I find this strange because our liquids are metered dosages delivered by machines, each bottle has 120ml. I can only assume there was an issue using the oral syringe. Believe it or not, but they are flawless, often you can lose ML over time due to slight variations.
 
Hastur said:
Glad to hear switching over has been all good, brother!



Again, I find this strange because our liquids are metered dosages delivered by machines, each bottle has 120ml. I can only assume there was an issue using the oral syringe. Believe it or not, but they are flawless, often you can lose ML over time due to slight variations.
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I don't think there was anything wrong with the oral syringe or my use of it. I do accept that you might loose a ml. or two from a bottle due to various factors, but not 40 ml.--twice! Then I've had other bottles that were full. That being said, there is definitely nothing wrong with the quality. Love DermaStrength, just don't like the short bottles--makes it very difficult to plan a cycle if you can't count on a bottle lasting a month when measured out.

I've started my 11-kt and 1-andro cycle (actually starting by finishing a bottle of PN 11-oxo Derm).I was planning on running 220-330 mg./day of 1-andro, and 250 mg./day 11-kt. Hopefully these bottles are full and I won't have to buy another bottle to finish the cycle.

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crowbar46 said:
I don't think there was anything wrong with the oral syringe or my use of it. I do accept that you might loose a ml. or two from a bottle due to various factors, but not 40 ml.--twice! Then I've had other bottles that were full. That being said, there is definitely nothing wrong with the quality. Love DermaStrength, just don't like the short bottles--makes it very difficult to plan a cycle if you can't count on a bottle lasting a month when measured out.

I've started my 11-kt and 1-andro cycle (actually starting by finishing a bottle of PN 11-oxo Derm).I was planning on running 220-330 mg./day of 1-andro, and 250 mg./day 11-kt. Hopefully these bottles are full and I won't have to buy another bottle to finish the cycle.

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And I addressed your prior issue with DSU. If there is further concerns please feel free to contact me privately at the email in my sig. Thx
 
GNO said:
And I addressed your prior issue with DSU. If there is further concerns please feel free to contact me privately at the email in my sig. Thx
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No, you were great! Absolutely no complaint about how you handled it. It would just be nice to be able to count on a bottle lasting ~30 days when measured out. I also didn't want people to think that those saying there Super-11 was short were crazy--it happens.

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crowbar46 said:
No, you were great! Absolutely no complaint about how you handled it. It would just be nice to be able to count on a bottle lasting ~30 days when measured out. I also didn't want people to think that those saying there Super-11 was short were crazy--it happens.

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I have a large number of bottles which I have weighed following your comments, all are the same weight, which I have (am currently) using and have lasted the full length when measured with a syringe. You must have received and extreme outlyer if it actually the case.
 
My second bottle looks like it will last the full month from a quick estimate right now. My tupperware has a bunch of white flaky stuff around the edges where it dried I guess is there a way to get that to be absorbed as well?
 
NoAddedHmones said:
I have a large number of bottles which I have weighed following your comments, all are the same weight, which I have (am currently) using and have lasted the full length when measured with a syringe. You must have received and extreme outlyer if it actually the case.
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Seems like you stocked up for the apocalypse. :fest30:
 
Well, I'm certainly looking forward to this Super11 and 1-andro run. I'm currently only on day 4 with the 1-andro, and still using up the 11-oxo before switching to the Super-11. Do you think I should add some Super Epi to combats possible lethargy?

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crowbar46 said:
Well, I'm certainly looking forward to this Super11 and 1-andro run. I'm currently only on day 4 with the 1-andro, and still using up the 11-oxo before switching to the Super-11. Do you think I should add some Super Epi to combats possible lethargy?

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It should certainly help. Lethargy is always a given on Sup3r 1 for me personally.
 
Im now in the third week and ive noticed a loss of libido. Its really hard for me to get a boner , is this a sign of shutdown ? What do you think of maybe adding epi andro to counter the loss of libido ?
 
Crazyguy1991 said:
Im now in the third week and ive noticed a loss of libido. Its really hard for me to get a boner , is this a sign of shutdown ? What do you think of maybe adding epi andro to counter the loss of libido ?
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I've personally be shocked by this, and would put money on it being more coincidental than related to 11-KT, but adding EpiAndro to any cycle is going to help with libido. So it's an option.
 
Crazyguy1991 said:
Okay I might consider adding epi then.
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I would think that the 11-kt has nothing to do with this ...It is so mild. It may be in your head (no pun intended).
 
What other supplements are you taking? Any drugs? How old?
 
Crazyguy1991 said:
Nono i do not take any drugs, i got my daily staple crea, omega, zma, vit d , vit c and thats it apart from super 11. Im also a bit moody last days
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Hormone fluctuations effect everyone differently, also just because 11keto is mild doesn't mean someone isn't bound to get hit harder then others.
 
Crazyguy1991 said:
Nono i do not take any drugs, i got my daily staple crea, omega, zma, vit d , vit c and thats it apart from super 11. Im also a bit moody last days
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Great, and what is your diet like? How big a deficit? Macros?

I'm not saying it isn't the 11-KT, just seems unlikely and wondering if there is something else to rule out.
 
I got high med & low carb days, and my deficit is around 500 to 600 kcals per day. Im dieting since 17 weeks but i did it last year on osta aswell and i got such libido probs aswell after some weeks.
 
How did you overcome the libido issues while on Osta?
 
Crazyguy1991 said:
I got high med & low carb days, and my deficit is around 500 to 600 kcals per day. Im dieting since 17 weeks but i did it last year on osta aswell and i got such libido probs aswell after some weeks.
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Well cutting affects libido in the base case and it sounds you have been cutting pretty hard and long so I am not really surprised to hear your libido is low.

Could Sup3r-11 be playing a role as well? Sure, because it is suppressive, albeit relatively mild, just as Ostarine is suppressive.
 
GNO said:
Well cutting affects libido in the base case and it sounds you have been cutting pretty hard and long so I am not really surprised to hear your libido is low.

Could Sup3r-11 be playing a role as well? Sure, because it is suppressive, albeit relatively mild, just as Ostarine is suppressive.
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This, my first thought once I read the long duration cut. It's still likely coincidental with 11-KT usage. We have zero other reports. Not that it isn't possible, but highly unlikely.
 
I've used a lot of products in the past 30 years that I've been working out and I absolutely love this product ...I am leaner, stronger, more vascular it's actually kind of amusing I never really expected these results... there is one thing that I recently opened up a new bottle and it's almost like there's crumbs in there so when I spray that I feel like I'm squirting sand all over my body even though I shake the heck out of it does anybody know what the story is with that?
 
GNO said:
Well cutting affects libido in the base case and it sounds you have been cutting pretty hard and long so I am not really surprised to hear your libido is low.

Could Sup3r-11 be playing a role as well? Sure, because it is suppressive, albeit relatively mild, just as Ostarine is suppressive.
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Hastur said:
This, my first thought once I read the long duration cut. It's still likely coincidental with 11-KT usage. We have zero other reports. Not that it isn't possible, but highly unlikely.
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I was kind of thinking that too - it seems that long cuts decrease his libido. I've never used Osta, so I'm not sure if it is THAT suppressive that it will kill libido even. I mean, for a long time a lot of people swore Osta wasn't suppressive AT ALL. On the other hand, I wonder if there is even any blood work showing 11-KT to be suppressive. It seems like theory and better safe than sorry, but I don't really notice any symptoms of shut down even at 250 mg/day and I'm almost 8 weeks in at this point.

DieselNY said:
I've used a lot of products in the past 30 years that I've been working out and I absolutely love this product ...I am leaner, stronger, more vascular it's actually kind of amusing I never really expected these results... there is one thing that I recently opened up a new bottle and it's almost like there's crumbs in there so when I spray that I feel like I'm squirting sand all over my body even though I shake the heck out of it does anybody know what the story is with that?
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So, I even added some DMSO and alcohol to my Sup3r-11 and heated it in a heat bath. It was REALLY clear once I did that. It's been about 3 weeks or so, and I have clumps throughout the liquid now. The stuff just seems to go into suspension easily. I think a heat bath will clear it up better than shaking.
 
HIT4ME said:
I was kind of thinking that too - it seems that long cuts decrease his libido. I've never used Osta, so I'm not sure if it is THAT suppressive that it will kill libido even. I mean, for a long time a lot of people swore Osta wasn't suppressive AT ALL. On the other hand, I wonder if there is even any blood work showing 11-KT to be suppressive. It seems like theory and better safe than sorry, but I don't really notice any symptoms of shut down even at 250 mg/day and I'm almost 8 weeks in at this point.



So, I even added some DMSO and alcohol to my Sup3r-11 and heated it in a heat bath. It was REALLY clear once I did that. It's been about 3 weeks or so, and I have clumps throughout the liquid now. The stuff just seems to go into suspension easily. I think a heat bath will clear it up better than shaking.
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It's suppressive. All compounds that bind to the androgen receptor are non-selective and bind to the hypothalamus, this includes Ostarine and 11-KT. If something binds to the androgen receptor, it's suppressive. Not everyone feels the same side effects, some claims since they don't SEE visible testicular atrophy they WEREN'T suppressed or shutdown, I hear similar claims because they noticed no loss in libido, or didn't feel lethargic... But only bloodwork can determine this. There is not an anabolic compound that binds to the androgen receptor that is NOT suppressive, one of the key reasons SARMS exist is the search for SELECTIVE androgen receptor modulation, as in 'skeletal muscle' but not 'prostate' or 'hypothalamus', thus a safe and non-suppressive anabolic that would have a vast amount of applications.
 
im wondering,can only one bottle-30 days cycle show any results?by results i mean muscle hardening/muscle retention..or is it a waste of time?
 
PARASXOS said:
im wondering,can only one bottle-30 days cycle show any results?by results i mean muscle hardening/muscle retention..or is it a waste of time?
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Not a waste of time at all, brother! You'd definitely see results in 30 days, but you get out what you put in. So you're diet has to be on point, along with your weight lifting and cardio. It won't do all the work, But put in the time and effort, and it WILL accelerate your results.
 
So...thinking of a 4 week cycle of:

1 bottle of SUP3R 11-KT
1 bottle of SUP3R-2 (or would Sup3r-Epi Elite at 500-750mg/day be better for my goals?)
10mgs Ostar1ne/day

Looking to lose some body fat but stay around the same weight (or even gain????) if possible. Diet is in check. What kind of results could I expect with such a cycle?

Have Nolva for PCT.
 
hiimnotcool said:
So...thinking of a 4 week cycle of:

1 bottle of SUP3R 11-KT
1 bottle of SUP3R-2 (or would Sup3r-Epi Elite at 500-750mg/day be better for my goals?)
10mgs Ostar1ne/day

Looking to lose some body fat but stay around the same weight (or even gain????) if possible. Diet is in check. What kind of results could I expect with such a cycle?

Have Nolva for PCT.
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4 weeks isn't going to give you earth-shattering results, so I'll be upfront about that. If you want to lose body fat and stay around the same weight or gain, you need to make sure everything else is dialed in. You'll see results at 500mg 2-Andro, 250mg 11-KT and 10mg Ostarine per day at just 30 days, but you better lower carbs, up your protein, do HIIT at least 2x per week, and do either fasted morning LISS or post-workout LISS. In addition to a slight caloric deficit of 200-500 calories and consistent weight training at least 3x per week. You do that, and you should expect to lose body fat and maintain or gain muscle mass. Exact numbers cannot be given as there are far too many variables to account for.

Crazyguy1991 said:
Is 20/10/10/10 nolva sufficient for a 4 week cycle with 250mg super 11 ?
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Absolutely fine!
 
Hastur said:
4 weeks isn't going to give you earth-shattering results, so I'll be upfront about that. If you want to lose body fat and stay around the same weight or gain, you need to make sure everything else is dialed in. You'll see results at 500mg 2-Andro, 250mg 11-KT and 10mg Ostarine per day at just 30 days, but you better lower carbs, up your protein, do HIIT at least 2x per week, and do either fasted morning LISS or post-workout LISS. In addition to a slight caloric deficit of 200-500 calories and consistent weight training at least 3x per week. You do that, and you should expect to lose body fat and maintain or gain muscle mass. Exact numbers cannot be given as there are far too many variables to account for.



Absolutely fine!
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I'm dialed in believe me. I'm at around 11-12% body fat right now. Everything is pretty lean except for midsection and side of my chest. Figured 11-kt would be perfect for that. I might just buy the Sup3r-11 and use it standalone for one bottle to see what happens.

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