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They're 14in now thankfully, added 1in during the first 4 weeks of this cycle. But I know, really tiny arms, right? I measure them first thing in the morning, cold, no lifting, no flexing, no skewing of any kind. With my arms flat at my sides. Then I have a third party take the measurement so I don't flex while attempting to measure myself.

But I'm working on them! I hate that my calves at 1-2in larger than my biceps.


Ahh.. that makes sense. Typically people measure them flexed without a pump.
 
I appreciate the kind words man. I've got a long way to go. At one point I was doing 450 for 3 reps on deads. After the first bout of PSMF last year it fell to about 350!!! After stopping I got back around 400 and I've been there since. Now I'm slipping again. I'm sure once I am focused on strength again I will get back up there.

495 is still a huge number. It's funny because obviously most people don't work out, so they seem impressed when they learn I can lift 400 pounds in a deadlift, but I have to explain to them that almost any full grown man can do that with a little training....but it seems that for a lot of people things stop around that mark for some reason. Getting to 500 is the challenge, and you're there!

Dude, if you had just a BIT of fuel in the tank, you'd be throwing on strength like crazy! 450lbs for 3 means you have 500lbs for 1 guaranteed at some point, I have zero doubt! It's been a challenge getting here, but honestly I need to be cutting like yourself very soon. I'd love to have fully visible abs at least once before I die. I'm thinking next time Test, Tren, Mast, 11-KT, T3, Telmisartan, Cardarine/GW, Albuterol and/or ECA, Caffeine, Forskolin, Yohimbine, Nicotine, EGCG, Winstrol, Anavar, IGNIT3, Clenviscerate, DNP, ... GH too if I had money for it, haha. And possibly something like Cryolipolysis to cause adipocyte apoptosis in sub-q fat. Couple with either Keto again like CKD or TKD, and implementing refeeds or possibly carb ups for dipping Leptin levels.

Ahh.. that makes sense. Typically people measure them flexed without a pump.

From what I've seen true measurements aren't taken flexed, but everyone has different ways of going about things! Let me see what they are flexed... Just over 16in, haha. So flexing adds a solid 2 inches. Still, very small though. :p
 
...Test, Tren, Mast, 11-KT, T3, Telmisartan, Cardarine/GW, Albuterol and/or ECA, Caffeine, Forskolin, Yohimbine, EGCG, Winstrol, Anavar, IGNIT3, Clenviscerate, DNP, ... GH too if I had money for it, haha. And possibly something like Cryolipolysis to cause adipocyte apoptosis in sub-q fat. Couple with either Keto again like CKD or TKD, and implementing refeeds or possibly carb ups for dipping Leptin levels...

All at the same time?
 
Dude, if you had just a BIT of fuel in the tank, you'd be throwing on strength like crazy! 450lbs for 3 means you have 500lbs for 1 guaranteed at some point, I have zero doubt! It's been a challenge getting here, but honestly I need to be cutting like yourself very soon. I'd love to have fully visible abs at least once before I die. I'm thinking next time Test, Tren, Mast, 11-KT, T3, Telmisartan, Cardarine/GW, Albuterol and/or ECA, Caffeine, Forskolin, Yohimbine, Nicotine, EGCG, Winstrol, Anavar, IGNIT3, Clenviscerate, DNP, ... GH too if I had money for it, haha. And possibly something like Cryolipolysis to cause adipocyte apoptosis in sub-q fat. Couple with either Keto again like CKD or TKD, and implementing refeeds or possibly carb ups for dipping Leptin levels.

You forgot Brite and Epitome!

I hope I have some visible abs in the next 8 weeks or so. My PCT should leave some room for some significant fat loss too - I'm going to be using Sup3r-PCT and then adding Exotherm to that for additional AI effects and fat burning effects, and of course nolva. I wish I had gotten Pharma T3 now, I think the stability issue in liquid is real and it makes it hard to judge. I was taking what SHOULD have been 120 mcg and it was starting to look like some magic was happening, but at 60 mcg I really get nothing from it.

As far as deadlifting 500 - I don't think I ever had that, I think my 1RM at that point was around 475. It's funny how reps can fall fast with just another 10 pounds. And I was over 250 at that point and a lot of fat, but size helps I think regardless. 500 is an impressive feat - maybe not amongst power lifters, but there are so few people walking around in "normal" life who can deadlift 400 - 500 is strong.
 
You forgot Brite and Epitome!

I hope I have some visible abs in the next 8 weeks or so. My PCT should leave some room for some significant fat loss too - I'm going to be using Sup3r-PCT and then adding Exotherm to that for additional AI effects and fat burning effects, and of course nolva. I wish I had gotten Pharma T3 now, I think the stability issue in liquid is real and it makes it hard to judge. I was taking what SHOULD have been 120 mcg and it was starting to look like some magic was happening, but at 60 mcg I really get nothing from it.

As far as deadlifting 500 - I don't think I ever had that, I think my 1RM at that point was around 475. It's funny how reps can fall fast with just another 10 pounds. And I was over 250 at that point and a lot of fat, but size helps I think regardless. 500 is an impressive feat - maybe not amongst power lifters, but there are so few people walking around in "normal" life who can deadlift 400 - 500 is strong.

I've been planning on trying BRITE and Epitome at some point. And I bet you'll attain visible abs soon, you're dieting so hardcore, man. I definitely plan on pharma T3 when I run it, not only can it degrade, but RC T3 can be under or overdosed. But a solid source is expensive, even UGL T3 pills are costly. And you definitely can have 500lbs one day if you want it, I'm just saying, you're a lot closer than others! At maintenance calories, and training for 1rm, you'd get it. But cutting up is probably more important, and to be honest, it is to me too. So after this cycle, I'll be swallowing my pride and training for fat loss. I hate looking weak lifting, but thats an ego thing.
 
Dude, if you had just a BIT of fuel in the tank, you'd be throwing on strength like crazy! 450lbs for 3 means you have 500lbs for 1 guaranteed at some point, I have zero doubt! It's been a challenge getting here, but honestly I need to be cutting like yourself very soon. I'd love to have fully visible abs at least once before I die. I'm thinking next time Test, Tren, Mast, 11-KT, T3, Telmisartan, Cardarine/GW, Albuterol and/or ECA, Caffeine, Forskolin, Yohimbine, Nicotine, EGCG, Winstrol, Anavar, IGNIT3, Clenviscerate, DNP, ... GH too if I had money for it, haha. And possibly something like Cryolipolysis to cause adipocyte apoptosis in sub-q fat. Couple with either Keto again like CKD or TKD, and implementing refeeds or possibly carb ups for dipping Leptin levels.
Reckless.

The EGCG is overkill.
 
As I've stated before, I have some serious asymmetry I wish to correct:

*Left Thigh: 24in
*Right Thigh: 25in

*Left Calf: 15in
*Right Calf: 16.25in

-Left Calf is 1.25in smaller than Right Calf
-Left Thigh is 1in smaller than Right Thigh

Still attempting to correct these asymmetries with unilateral exercises.

~UPDATE: 06/10/16 - Friday Workout - Legs/Shoulders

*Skipped Pre-Workout Cardio

*Barbell Squat - 1
(Target: Quadriceps)
1x10x45lbs (Bar) {Same}
1x10x135lbs {Same}
1x10x185lbs {Same}
1x10x225lbs {Same} (Used belt)
(Attempted a 2nd set at 225lbs, on the very first rep at parallel my quads felt full, tight, and then just totally locked up, cramped up, and I had to fall forward and attempt to rack it. First time this has EVER happened. Totally ruined my Squats, was afraid it would happen again.)
(Skipped other 6 planned sets)

*Leg Press - 2 (Thought this would be a safer alternative...)
1x12x180lbs (4-plates)
1x12x270lbs (6-plates)
1x8x360lbs (8-plates)
1x6x450lbs (10-plates)
1x6x540lbs (12-plates)
1x3x630lbs (14-plates)
(Not sure of quality, if I brought it down low enough, I had a lot of apprehension...)

*Lever Alternating Leg Extension (plate loaded) - 3
(Target: Quadriceps)
2x10x25lbs (Unilateral Exercise - Left Leg Only) {Same}

*Lever Kneeling Leg Curl (plate loaded) - 4
(Target: Hamstrings)
3x12x45lbs {Same}
2x10x25lbs (Unilateral Exercise - Left Leg Only) {Same}

*Lever Standing Calf Raise - 5 (Target: Gastrocnemius)
4x14x220lbs {+20lbs from last time}

*Barbell Shoulder Press - 6
(Target: Deltoid, Anterior)
1x10x45lbs (Bar) {Same}
1x10x95lbs {Same}
1x10x135lbs {Same}
3x6x135lbs {Same}

*Lever Lateral Raise (plate loaded) - 7
(Target: Deltoid, Lateral)
4x8x25lbs {Same}

*Lever Seated Reverse Fly (overhand grip) - 8
(Target: Deltoid, Posterior)
4x10x100lbs {Same}
1x10x115lbs {+4 reps from last time}

*Skipped Post-Workout Cardio

~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 78 {+1 from last time}
**Total Sets: 36 {Same}
**Total Reps: 349 {-7 reps from last time}

~Notes:
-No spotter (Which sucked when failing!)
-My knees hurt today before ever hitting legs. (Exemestane?)
-Regarding the cramping on Squats, unsure if I was dehydrated, lacking potassium, too pumped from all the anabolics, or what. It shocked the hell out of me, it felt light going down, then it was like Satan himself was trying to pull my ass down through the ground.
 
As I've stated before, I have some serious asymmetry I wish to correct:

*Left Thigh: 24in
*Right Thigh: 25in

*Left Calf: 15in
*Right Calf: 16.25in

-Left Calf is 1.25in smaller than Right Calf
-Left Thigh is 1in smaller than Right Thigh

Still attempting to correct these asymmetries with unilateral exercises.

~UPDATE: 06/10/16 - Friday Workout - Legs/Shoulders

*Skipped Pre-Workout Cardio

*Barbell Squat - 1
(Target: Quadriceps)
1x10x45lbs (Bar) {Same}
1x10x135lbs {Same}
1x10x185lbs {Same}
1x10x225lbs {Same} (Used belt)
(Attempted a 2nd set at 225lbs, on the very first rep at parallel my quads felt full, tight, and then just totally locked up, cramped up, and I had to fall forward and attempt to rack it. First time this has EVER happened. Totally ruined my Squats, was afraid it would happen again.)
(Skipped other 6 planned sets)

*Leg Press - 2 (Thought this would be a safer alternative...)
1x12x180lbs (4-plates)
1x12x270lbs (6-plates)
1x8x360lbs (8-plates)
1x6x450lbs (10-plates)
1x6x540lbs (12-plates)
1x3x630lbs (14-plates)
(Not sure of quality, if I brought it down low enough, I had a lot of apprehension...)

*Lever Alternating Leg Extension (plate loaded) - 3
(Target: Quadriceps)
2x10x25lbs (Unilateral Exercise - Left Leg Only) {Same}

*Lever Kneeling Leg Curl (plate loaded) - 4
(Target: Hamstrings)
3x12x45lbs {Same}
2x10x25lbs (Unilateral Exercise - Left Leg Only) {Same}

*Lever Standing Calf Raise - 5 (Target: Gastrocnemius)
4x14x220lbs {+20lbs from last time}

*Barbell Shoulder Press - 6
(Target: Deltoid, Anterior)
1x10x45lbs (Bar) {Same}
1x10x95lbs {Same}
1x10x135lbs {Same}
3x6x135lbs {Same}

*Lever Lateral Raise (plate loaded) - 7
(Target: Deltoid, Lateral)
4x8x25lbs {Same}

*Lever Seated Reverse Fly (overhand grip) - 8
(Target: Deltoid, Posterior)
4x10x100lbs {Same}
1x10x115lbs {+4 reps from last time}

*Skipped Post-Workout Cardio

~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 78 {+1 from last time}
**Total Sets: 36 {Same}
**Total Reps: 349 {-7 reps from last time}

~Notes:
-No spotter (Which sucked when failing!)
-My knees hurt today before ever hitting legs. (Exemestane?)
-Regarding the cramping on Squats, unsure if I was dehydrated, lacking potassium, too pumped from all the anabolics, or what. It shocked the hell out of me, it felt light going down, then it was like Satan himself was trying to pull my ass down through the ground.

My knee was bugging me in PCT on exem ... I tried to stretch out 3 reps on 315lbs and got stuck at parallel - literally held for 3 secs until someone heard my cry for help LOL
 
My knew was bugging me in PCT on exem ... I tried to stretch out 3 reps on 315lbs and got stuck at parallel - literally held for 3 secs until someone heard my cry for help LOL

I wonder if the knee pain before ever doing legs and the cramping is both from Exemestane. I'm supposed to take 12.5mg tomorrow, I might skip it. This REALLY sucked, sounds like you can relate! lol
 
I wonder if the knee pain before ever doing legs and the cramping is both from Exemestane. I'm supposed to take 12.5mg tomorrow, I might skip it. This REALLY sucked, sounds like you can relate! lol
Yup. I think it is a combination of exem + cardio weakening the knee joint to the point it hinders our squat ability.
 
You think your estro is too low? That cramp was probably scary as **** while doing squats, I hate failing them.
 
I love lifting really heavy, and I second this. I can do reps of heavy squats for numerous sets and my knees will be fine. Even just a cheap hormonal based estrogen blocker will dry my knees out in a matter of a couple weeks. I've never gotten cramps but I've gotten some pretty dry knees from them. If I take a week off they go back to normal though.
 
Yup. I think it is a combination of exem + cardio weakening the knee joint to the point it hinders our squat ability.

Well I woke up today and my knees hurt less at the moment, and I skipped my dosage of Exemestane, so I am leaning towards that having been the issue.

You think your estro is too low? That cramp was probably scary as **** while doing squats, I hate failing them.

I do, 12.5mg pharma Exeme EOD is fairly strong. I didn't want to risk Estro sides with Trest, but man, aching knees sucks! And dude, it was scary as hell, haha. I felt great, so it caught me off guard.

I love lifting really heavy, and I second this. I can do reps of heavy squats for numerous sets and my knees will be fine. Even just a cheap hormonal based estrogen blocker will dry my knees out in a matter of a couple weeks. I've never gotten cramps but I've gotten some pretty dry knees from them. If I take a week off they go back to normal though.

Really? I hear guys say cheap estrogen blockers give them dry joints, I've never gotten that effect before. But pharma Exeme EOD is a lot stronger. Granted, I can't take a week off from using it due to Trest, hopefully E3D 12.5mg Exeme will get the job done without knee pain.
 
I don't know bout the rest of you but I don't want this Hastur journey to end ....

Bring it in :grouphug: and now go get 500!!!
 
I don't know bout the rest of you but I don't want this Hastur journey to end ....

Bring it in :grouphug: and now go get 500!!!

Haha, I've got just 2 weeks left, and no creaky knees or near accidents are gonna stop me from going hard and getting the most out of this cycle! I'm trying 505lbs Wednesday, though 495lbs went up without struggle, and the temptation to go heavier is there before the cycle ends.
 
Haha, I've got just 2 weeks left, and no creaky knees or near accidents are gonna stop me from going hard and getting the most out of this cycle! I'm trying 505lbs Wednesday, though 495lbs went up without struggle, and the temptation to go heavier is there before the cycle ends.

PRs in PCT and afterwards are entirely possible!
 
Haha, I've got just 2 weeks left, and no creaky knees or near accidents are gonna stop me from going hard and getting the most out of this cycle! I'm trying 505lbs Wednesday, though 495lbs went up without struggle, and the temptation to go heavier is there before the cycle ends.
i say go for that
505 lbs tomorrow .
 
Do you think you could have done a second rep with the 495? Was it that easy?

505 seems like a good goal. Still concerned about a max attempt and then another 1 week later. Those are big weights, but I'm one of the guys on here who believes in longer recovery.

And no reason to stop improving after your cycle. The prohormone didn't do the work, they just helped recovery. You did the work.
 
Not trying to freak you out, but a few months back, I pulled 495. It was the next week I tried to do it again and brought my camera so I could put it on facebook. Physically and mentally I felt great, I felt the confidence that I could pull 525 if I really wanted to. I did a couple warm ups, 135, 225, 315, 405, then 495. As soon as I started the lift I got it off the ground, it felt like I was lifting a truck, I ended up fighting it like crazy, got it up to my knees and ended up slipping a disc in my back and pulled a muscle in my lower back. After replaying the video, my form was good, I kept tight, didn't raise my hips early, etc. The only conclusion I could come to is getting up to 500lbs is different then 300's. Your body and cns needs more time to recover. I also was and still am squatting 3x a week and deadlifting 2x a week. The difference now is I go a little lighter and not all out balls to the wall intensity every session. It's actually been going great, a few months after hurting myself and I set a pr of 445x4 last week.
 
Not trying to freak you out, but a few months back, I pulled 495. It was the next week I tried to do it again and brought my camera so I could put it on facebook. Physically and mentally I felt great, I felt the confidence that I could pull 525 if I really wanted to. I did a couple warm ups, 135, 225, 315, 405, then 495. As soon as I started the lift I got it off the ground, it felt like I was lifting a truck, I ended up fighting it like crazy, got it up to my knees and ended up slipping a disc in my back and pulled a muscle in my lower back. After replaying the video, my form was good, I kept tight, didn't raise my hips early, etc. The only conclusion I could come to is getting up to 500lbs is different then 300's. Your body and cns needs more time to recover. I also was and still am squatting 3x a week and deadlifting 2x a week. The difference now is I go a little lighter and not all out balls to the wall intensity every session. It's actually been going great, a few months after hurting myself and I set a pr of 445x4 last week.

Sorry to hear about this man. Glad you are doing better.

This gets to the point I always try to say that your ability to recover doesn't improve like your ability to perform. You may be able to go harder, longer, OR more often - but going harder when you re performing at a higher level takes longer to recover from and you can't really train for faster recovery.

Lifting 500 pounds is much more demanding than lifting 300 pounds, no matter how trained you are.

Another illustration of this is - how often do you see someone who is just starting to train and lifting lighter weights tear a muscle from their bone, even though they may be going all out. On the other hand, a very highly trained powerlifter can probably year a muscle lifting a weight that is 75% of his 1RM.

Hastur is in new territory here.
 
Do you think you could have done a second rep with the 495? Was it that easy?

505 seems like a good goal. Still concerned about a max attempt and then another 1 week later. Those are big weights, but I'm one of the guys on here who believes in longer recovery.

And no reason to stop improving after your cycle. The prohormone didn't do the work, they just helped recovery. You did the work.

fair comments here. On the other hand he is running quite the ph stack which allowed him to recover from a setback a couple weeks before hitting 495 lbs. Personally, I would go for it but be realistic...if it doesn't feel right coming off the ground let it go and save it for another day.
 
PRs in PCT and afterwards are entirely possible!
Agree 100% considering I just hit a PR in pct myself lol, nothing like a 505 pounder but still a pr lol
Hastur will you be logging pct here too ?

Oh, definitely. For some people, it's quite possible. I don't think I've ever set a PR in PCT, I tend to rapidly lose strength, and get rebound weight gain. As an ex-obese individual, I have a hell of a time in PCT. Something about losing 151lbs fat totally wrecked my body, haha. I MAY log my PCT, but it's not as exciting as a stack like this!

i say go for that
505 lbs tomorrow .

Wednesday! It's going down.

Do you think you could have done a second rep with the 495? Was it that easy?

505 seems like a good goal. Still concerned about a max attempt and then another 1 week later. Those are big weights, but I'm one of the guys on here who believes in longer recovery.

And no reason to stop improving after your cycle. The prohormone didn't do the work, they just helped recovery. You did the work.

I might have been able to get a 2nd rep, one of my buddies who was standing there said he thought I was going to because it looked so easy. Definitely pushing it trying to hit a PR every 7 days, something I wouldn't recommend to others. I am on a lot of compounds that accelerate recovery, but I'm still walking a fine line I think. And thanks, man! But you know how it is, goals change after cycles, I won't be trying to set Deadlift PRs, I'll be trying to not get fat as hell. :p

Not trying to freak you out, but a few months back, I pulled 495. It was the next week I tried to do it again and brought my camera so I could put it on facebook. Physically and mentally I felt great, I felt the confidence that I could pull 525 if I really wanted to. I did a couple warm ups, 135, 225, 315, 405, then 495. As soon as I started the lift I got it off the ground, it felt like I was lifting a truck, I ended up fighting it like crazy, got it up to my knees and ended up slipping a disc in my back and pulled a muscle in my lower back. After replaying the video, my form was good, I kept tight, didn't raise my hips early, etc. The only conclusion I could come to is getting up to 500lbs is different then 300's. Your body and cns needs more time to recover. I also was and still am squatting 3x a week and deadlifting 2x a week. The difference now is I go a little lighter and not all out balls to the wall intensity every session. It's actually been going great, a few months after hurting myself and I set a pr of 445x4 last week.

Successfully freaked me out. That sucks, brother. I'm sorry to hear that happened! I actually jumped weight on PR attempts because I find if my CNS is too fatigued, that's when the weight gets stuck, and it's mid-struggle that injuries happen. But I appreciate your cautionary tale. The plan is, to try 505lbs, and if it gets stuck to just drop it and not risk the injury. 445x4 is very nice, by the way!

fair comments here. On the other hand he is running quite the ph stack which allowed him to recover from a setback a couple weeks before hitting 495 lbs. Personally, I would go for it but be realistic...if it doesn't feel right coming off the ground let it go and save it for another day.

Very true, and that's what I'm cashing in on. I have like 11 days left of this cycle, and I know that I can't pull this weight in PCT or Off Cycle because my calories are always too low while trying to stave off massive fat gain. So if I'm going to try this, I have just 11 days to do so. I'd be pretty happy getting 505lbs and going back to just reasonable volume training afterwards. So the plan is to try on Wednesday to pull 505lbs, if it gets stuck I'll drop it and accept last weeks 495lbs as my all-time PR, and if I get 505lbs then I'll happily accept THAT as my all-time PR, either way after that I'll begin preparing for PCT, calorie reduction, and a change in training style.
 
It always surprises me when people talk about gaining anything but depression in PCT. I never gain sh1t. I've had prescribed Nolva and exemestane from a doc mixed with way more money than anyone should ever spend on supps in PCT support supplements and at best I've been able to stave off the inevitable decline for a few weeks. I just revel in the glories of the cycle and hope to add a good 5 pounds net and very slightly better body comp after 3 months post cycle.
 
It always surprises me when people talk about gaining anything but depression in PCT. I never gain sh1t. I've had prescribed Nolva and exemestane from a doc mixed with way more money than anyone should ever spend on supps in PCT support supplements and at best I've been able to stave off the inevitable decline for a few weeks. I just revel in the glories of the cycle and hope to add a good 5 pounds net and very slightly better body comp after 3 months post cycle.

I get it, man. PCT is hit or miss, just like cycles, and most other things in life. Some do just fine, others have a hell of a time. I am always further ahead in PCT than I was pre-cycle, but with my metabolism I just cannot keep calories high enough to sustain the muscle mass and strength gained without throwing on a ton of fat. Still, I enjoy the progress I make over time. And in the end, that's what you have to do. Acknowledge that you made progress, and appreciate that for what it is. You can't compare yourself to this person or that person. That just leaves you unsatisfied, been there, done that.
 
I get it, man. PCT is hit or miss, just like cycles, and most other things in life. Some do just fine, others have a hell of a time. I am always further ahead in PCT than I was pre-cycle, but with my metabolism I just cannot keep calories high enough to sustain the muscle mass and strength gained without throwing on a ton of fat. Still, I enjoy the progress I make over time. And in the end, that's what you have to do. Acknowledge that you made progress, and appreciate that for what it is. You can't compare yourself to this person or that person. That just leaves you unsatisfied, been there, done that.

Wise words as usual from this guy.

I heard so many horro-bro stories about losing all your gains in PCT so I was pretty scared as my first cycle was wrapping up. But, it wasn't too bad and second one started off pretty rough but turned to be better in terms of strength retention. You just got to find what works for you, listen to your body, make minor tweaks, insert other clichés here...

My 3rd PCT = OR1GIN ...GAM3 ON
 
Wise words as usyal from this guy.

I heard so many horro-bro stories about losing all your gains in PCT so I was pretty scared as my first cycle was wrapping up. But, it wasn't too bad and second one started off pretty rough but turned to be better in terms from strength retention. You just got find works for you, listen to your body, make minor tweaks, insert other clichés here...

My 3rd PCT = OR1GIN ...GAM3 ON

Game changer... Sigh, won't be ready in time for me... :/ Next PCT!
 
I wish, I'd probably be teasing it pretty hard if it were ;)

Lol oh. I thought it was coming out with the Stack3d sale
 
I get it, man. PCT is hit or miss, just like cycles, and most other things in life. Some do just fine, others have a hell of a time. I am always further ahead in PCT than I was pre-cycle, but with my metabolism I just cannot keep calories high enough to sustain the muscle mass and strength gained without throwing on a ton of fat. Still, I enjoy the progress I make over time. And in the end, that's what you have to do. Acknowledge that you made progress, and appreciate that for what it is. You can't compare yourself to this person or that person. That just leaves you unsatisfied, been there, done that.

I guess I was just politely saying that I think anyone who claims to continue to advance after a cycle is fooling themselves. I don't see how it's physiologically possible. Sure a week or maybe two after the last pill, rub, or injection you might continue to make some minor advances or hold off the inevitable but I think anyone would be hard pressed to claim they were in a better place 2 or 3 months after a cycle than they were at the end of the cycle. 2 or 3 months post cycle there is no way your strength and body comp is equal to what it was on cycle if you ran your cycle right and it was fairly strong. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd have to see some proof.
 
I guess I was just politely saying that I think anyone who claims to continue to advance after a cycle is fooling themselves. I don't see how it's physiologically possible. Sure a week or maybe two after the last pill, rub, or injection you might continue to make some minor advances or hold off the inevitable but I think anyone would be hard pressed to claim they were in a better place 2 or 3 months after a cycle than they were at the end of the cycle. 2 or 3 months post cycle there is no way your strength and body comp is equal to what it was on cycle if you ran your cycle right and it was fairly strong. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd have to see some proof.

I do agree with this to a point, especially if you are using real gear. And I am fairly inexperienced, but I would think with the milder PHs, sure you won't gain as quickly, but your body will have a quicker rebound with fewer drawbacks...at least in theory.

Hastur is on a lot of stuff, so it may be more like a steroid rebound than something more mild.

Of course, cutting calories to avoid fat gain will have an effect too.

So basically, you are right, but there is always potential to improve.
 
~UPDATE:

As I've stated before, I have some asymmetry I wish to correct:

*Left Bicep: 14 in {+1}
*Right Bicep: 14 1/4 in {+1 1/4}

-Left Bicep is 0.25in smaller than Right Bicep

Still continuing my attempt to correct this asymmetry by utilizing unilateral exercises at the end of the workout.

06/20/16 - Monday - Chest/Biceps/Forearms

*Skipped Pre-Workout Cardio {Same}

*Barbell Bench Press - 1
(Target: Pectoralis Major, Sternal)
1x10x45lbs (Bar) {Same}
1x10x135lbs {Same}
4x10x185lbs {Same}

*Barbell Incline Bench Press - 2
(Target: Pectoralis Major, Clavicular)
4x8x135lbs {+3 reps on 4th set from last time}

*Pectoral Fly (Lever Seated Fly) - 3
(Target: Pectoralis Major, Sternal)
2x8x115lbs {Same}
2x8x130lbs {+15lbs from last time}
2x8x145lbs {+30lbs from last time}

*Dumbbell Curl - 4
(Target: Biceps Brachii)
4x8x35lbs {Same}

*Dumbbell Concentration Curl - 5
(Target: Brachialis)
4x6x35lbs {Same}

*Dumbbell Hammer Curl - 6
(Target: Brachioradialis)
4x8x25lbs {Same}

*Dumbbell Curl - (Returned To)
2x8x25lbs (Unilateral Exercise - Left Arm Only) {Same}

*Dumbbell Concentration Curl - (Returned To)
1x7x25lbs (Unilateral Exercise - Left Arm Only) {-1 rep from last time} (Too pumped, haha)
1x10x25lbs (Unilateral Exercise - Left Arm Only) {+2 rep from last time}

*Skipped Post-Workout Cardio

**Total Exercises: 6 {Same}
**Total Sets: 32 {Same}
**Total Reps: 261 {+4 reps from last time}

~Notes:
-Nothing mindblowing today, just very minor improvements over last Mondays Chest/Biceps/Forearms workout. Still happy with the volume I'm getting in.
 
You should bump that trest to 125mg for the last 2 weeks. Especially since your AI has been too powerful, balance it out....
 
Don't know how I haven't subbed for this yet... Cycle looks amazing... Very jealous

Welcome, brother! I have just over a week left though! Haha. The cycle has been amazing!

You should bump that trest to 125mg for the last 2 weeks. Especially since your AI has been too powerful, balance it out....

I just might, I could use that extra 25mg boost around workouts, no doubt. Plus, if that's what my bros want... I don't want to disappoint! Only 11 days left, so why not? ;)

I don't realize how much I've filled out, but I tried to wear a Large shirt to the gym yesterday, one I've worn many times, and it simply did not fit... I'll take my post-cycle measurements in like 11 days, on July 1st. But I can already tell I've gained size. And then, I didn't mention this in yesterdays workout, but my buddy was training some high school kids, and they were attempting one-arm pull-ups and failing, I jumped in and got 2 reps for fun and the one kid said "What kinda steroids HE on?" hahaha
 
06/22/16 - Wednesday - Back/Triceps

*Skipped usual Pre-Workout Cardio

*Barbell Deadlift - 1
(Target: Gluteus Maximus)
1x10x135lbs (Same)
1x5x225lbs (Same)
1x3x315lbs (Put on belt, applied chalk to hands, switched to mixed grip) (Same)
1x1x505lbs (Personal Record!) (+10lbs from last time)
(My buddy said I got it too easily, since I didn't stall at all. It went up quick, I held it for a while, and then lowered it without issue)
(Skipped 2x5x315lbs I did last time)

*Lever T-bar Row (plate loaded) - 2
(Target: Back, General)
4x12x105lbs (Close grip) (Same)

*Cable Straight Back Seated Row - 3
(Target: Back, General)
3x12x12-plates (120lbs) (Same)

*Cable Pulldown - 4
(Target: Latissimus Dorsi)
3x8x10-plates (100lbs) (Same)
3x8x8-plates (80lbs) (Same)

*Cable Pushdown (with rope attachment) - 5
(Target: Triceps Brachii)
3x8x6-plates (60lbs) (Same)
3x8x4-plates (40lbs) (Same)

*Dumbbell Shrug - 6
(Target: Trapezius, Upper)
4x15x60lbs (Same)

*Lever Straight Back Seated Row (with chest pad) - 7
(Target: Back, General)
4x12x12-plates (120lbs) (+2 reps per set from last time)
(Still don't feel these in back very much)

*Skipped Post-Workout Cardio

~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 7 (Same)
**Total Sets: 31 (-2 sets from last time)
**Total Reps: 304 (-5 reps from last time)

~Notes:
-Woke up today with my back hurting, no idea why. Did nothing the day before to cause it, and I was paranoid it would impact back day! So I foam-rolled by back, laid on a tennis ball at various points, and stretched with a dowel rod.
-When I got to the gym, I gauged my discomfort in the warm up reps on Deadlift, felt zero pain during the lifts, so I decided to go for the PR.
-In between exercises, I noticed the pain from this morning returning, but in different spots on my back, mind you this is something that I've experienced over the last year or so, not something I can attribute to any lift, I just get pain around my shoulder blades and feel it most turning my neck in specific ways. Usually it last about a week. I go to the Chiropractor, he says I have rib out, adjusts me, and I'm back to normal after a few days. Same thing happens to my Mom apparently, so probably some sort of genetic weakness.

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^Finally, I have another photo! My lifting partner didn't bail today, haha. (The Olympus Labs shirt barely fit, but I HAD to rep it on PR day!)

Thanks to all the bros who have been following this log as I worked my way up to this lift, all your words of support really mean a lot to me and kept me going! Cheers, brothers!
 
06/22/16 - Wednesday - Back/Triceps

*Skipped usual Pre-Workout Cardio

*Barbell Deadlift - 1
(Target: Gluteus Maximus)
1x10x135lbs (Same)
1x5x225lbs (Same)
1x3x315lbs (Put on belt, applied chalk to hands, switched to mixed grip) (Same)
1x1x505lbs (Personal Record!) (+10lbs from last time)
(My buddy said I got it too easily, since I didn't stall at all. It went up quick, I held it for a while, and then lowered it without issue)
(Skipped 2x5x315lbs I did last time)

*Lever T-bar Row (plate loaded) - 2
(Target: Back, General)
4x12x105lbs (Close grip) (Same)

*Cable Straight Back Seated Row - 3
(Target: Back, General)
3x12x12-plates (120lbs) (Same)

*Cable Pulldown - 4
(Target: Latissimus Dorsi)
3x8x10-plates (100lbs) (Same)
3x8x8-plates (80lbs) (Same)

*Cable Pushdown (with rope attachment) - 5
(Target: Triceps Brachii)
3x8x6-plates (60lbs) (Same)
3x8x4-plates (40lbs) (Same)

*Dumbbell Shrug - 6
(Target: Trapezius, Upper)
4x15x60lbs (Same)

*Lever Straight Back Seated Row (with chest pad) - 7
(Target: Back, General)
4x12x12-plates (120lbs) (+2 reps per set from last time)
(Still don't feel these in back very much)

*Skipped Post-Workout Cardio

~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 7 (Same)
**Total Sets: 31 (-2 sets from last time)
**Total Reps: 304 (-5 reps from last time)

~Notes:
-Woke up today with my back hurting, no idea why. Did nothing the day before to cause it, and I was paranoid it would impact back day! So I foam-rolled by back, laid on a tennis ball at various points, and stretched with a dowel rod.
-When I got to the gym, I gauged my discomfort in the warm up reps on Deadlift, felt zero pain during the lifts, so I decided to go for the PR.
-In between exercises, I noticed the pain from this morning returning, but in different spots on my back, mind you this is something that I've experienced over the last year or so, not something I can attribute to any lift, I just get pain around my shoulder blades and feel it most turning my neck in specific ways. Usually it last about a week. I go to the Chiropractor, he says I have rib out, adjusts me, and I'm back to normal after a few days. Same thing happens to my Mom apparently, so probably some sort of genetic weakness.

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^Finally, I have another photo! My lifting partner didn't bail today, haha. (The Olympus Labs shirt barely fit, but I HAD to rep it on PR day!)

Thanks to all the bros who have been following this log as I worked my way up to this lift, all your words of support really mean a lot to me and kept me going! Cheers, brothers!

I already know :head:

505lbs PR? Old news for this guy but congrats nonetheless. It must have been the OL shirt, adds 10lbs min to all lifts ha.

So how we celebrating?
 
505 awesome!

Thanks, brother!

505lbs PR? Old news for this guy but congrats nonetheless. It must have been the OL shirt, adds 10lbs min to all lifts ha.

So how we celebrating?

Haha, you know I had to hit you up first, bro. ;) Definitely the OL shirt, makes my chest look twice as big as it actually is. :p I'm thinking celebrate with donuts? ;)
 
06/22/16 - Wednesday - Back/Triceps

*Skipped usual Pre-Workout Cardio

*Barbell Deadlift - 1
(Target: Gluteus Maximus)
1x10x135lbs (Same)
1x5x225lbs (Same)
1x3x315lbs (Put on belt, applied chalk to hands, switched to mixed grip) (Same)
1x1x505lbs (Personal Record!) (+10lbs from last time)
(My buddy said I got it too easily, since I didn't stall at all. It went up quick, I held it for a while, and then lowered it without issue)
(Skipped 2x5x315lbs I did last time)

*Lever T-bar Row (plate loaded) - 2
(Target: Back, General)
4x12x105lbs (Close grip) (Same)

*Cable Straight Back Seated Row - 3
(Target: Back, General)
3x12x12-plates (120lbs) (Same)

*Cable Pulldown - 4
(Target: Latissimus Dorsi)
3x8x10-plates (100lbs) (Same)
3x8x8-plates (80lbs) (Same)

*Cable Pushdown (with rope attachment) - 5
(Target: Triceps Brachii)
3x8x6-plates (60lbs) (Same)
3x8x4-plates (40lbs) (Same)

*Dumbbell Shrug - 6
(Target: Trapezius, Upper)
4x15x60lbs (Same)

*Lever Straight Back Seated Row (with chest pad) - 7
(Target: Back, General)
4x12x12-plates (120lbs) (+2 reps per set from last time)
(Still don't feel these in back very much)

*Skipped Post-Workout Cardio

~Summary:
**Total Exercises: 7 (Same)
**Total Sets: 31 (-2 sets from last time)
**Total Reps: 304 (-5 reps from last time)

~Notes:
-Woke up today with my back hurting, no idea why. Did nothing the day before to cause it, and I was paranoid it would impact back day! So I foam-rolled by back, laid on a tennis ball at various points, and stretched with a dowel rod.
-When I got to the gym, I gauged my discomfort in the warm up reps on Deadlift, felt zero pain during the lifts, so I decided to go for the PR.
-In between exercises, I noticed the pain from this morning returning, but in different spots on my back, mind you this is something that I've experienced over the last year or so, not something I can attribute to any lift, I just get pain around my shoulder blades and feel it most turning my neck in specific ways. Usually it last about a week. I go to the Chiropractor, he says I have rib out, adjusts me, and I'm back to normal after a few days. Same thing happens to my Mom apparently, so probably some sort of genetic weakness.

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^Finally, I have another photo! My lifting partner didn't bail today, haha. (The Olympus Labs shirt barely fit, but I HAD to rep it on PR day!)

Thanks to all the bros who have been following this log as I worked my way up to this lift, all your words of support really mean a lot to me and kept me going! Cheers, brothers!

Great job Hastur! And just one week after 495. I bet you will get 510 next week. I don't care if you are off for a couple days.

Guess I didn't have to worry about your recovery. Beast.
 
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