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dave39 said:
If what you came here for is help and good info than that's what you've received. I'm not elitist, I'm honest and care. I've done the research, and have experience, and am sharing that info with you since you are too lazy to do it yourself. I'm harsh because I'm interested in giving valuable info, not wasting my time trying to "childproof" my posts.

If you came here to hear what you want to hear and get support from people on running a cycle when you are not ready for it than I will stay out of your threads.

It's your life, do what you want, its just sad that you think steroids are your saviour when you haven't even learned how to train or eat yet.
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People who end up getting mad when they come here get mad because we advise them the proper not just say "Yeah do everything you want sounds good... just buy some of our products." We don't push products (Well the non reps :D ) we tell you what we would/have done in your position. How does that make us insensitive and elitest? That's just an ignorant out look.. "wow they're not gonna give me my way, they're elitest pricks!"
 
jakz said:
Also @ N0obLifter, I know that you want to cut, but 1800 cals is not enough on cycle bro you will die of hunger, try like 2500 and go down maybe :D.
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Like jakz said ^ 1800cals is not enough. Lift heavy and eat big and put on some muscle. Your belly will shrink as your body comp changes from working out hard and consistently...
 
dave39 said:
Like jakz said ^ 1800cals is not enough. Lift heavy and eat big and put on some muscle. Your belly will shrink as your body comp changes from working out hard and consistently...
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This is the same advice I was givin 18 yrs ago . It worked perfectly, 2 years following I started using aas .
 
bighulksmash said:
This is the same advice I was givin 18 yrs ago . It worked perfectly, 2 years following I started using aas .
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Yup, even for me when cutting I don't have to cut that many cal's bellow maintenance b/c of the mass I've built up of the years. Loosing just a few pounds of fat over 4-8 weeks drastically changes my appearance.
 
You definite that is 10% on you?

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dave39 said:
If what you came here for is help and good info than that's what you've received. I'm not elitist, I'm honest and care. I've done the research, and have experience, and am sharing that info with you since you are too lazy to do it yourself. I'm harsh because I'm interested in giving valuable info, not wasting my time trying to "childproof" my posts.

If you came here to hear what you want to hear and get support from people on running a cycle when you are not ready for it than I will stay out of your threads.

It's your life, do what you want, its just sad that you think steroids are your saviour when you haven't even learned how to train or eat yet.
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Apologies my man. You just came accross as a bit of a prick is all.
Again, I apologise
 
bighulksmash said:
I was a 35 doing 12 week cycles with no issues . Its all about the big 3 diet exercise and sleep
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I'm scarred to post pics now, those two I posted are from last year. School and work have taken all I've work for these past 10 years and flushed about 25% of it down the drain. Diet and sleep have suffered... :(
 
2kvette said:
I'm scarred to post pics now, those two I posted are from last year. School and work have taken all I've work for these past 10 years and flushed about 25% of it down the drain. Diet and sleep have suffered... :(
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All you can do is set goals bro work twords it . Thats it ....
 
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