Brick Tannen
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Any feedback, logs, etc?
Sup3r-2
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YoungBodyBuil
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Just came out, there couldn't be any logs, it's not being sold yet either its pre-order, so no feedback either. However if you go to supplement companies and OL UK there's a very nice write-up there.
Brick Tannen
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A lot of companies including OL do alpha and beta testers, and usually post something when it's officially for sale. That's why I asked, and/or was curious.
YoungBodyBuil
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I believe if you go to the the thread created for it they said they didn't do beta testing? Or something along those lines, if you're not already subbed to that thread check it out.
yates84
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Beta tests on ph/ds are very very rare from any supplement company.
Brick Tannen
Member
Used to read it all the time. Guess not anymore.
Curious if the p-plex analogy is accurate and if it will be similar.
YoungBodyBuil
Banned
no quite an analogy, they said it's a non methylated precursor. Which if so, it clearly wont be as strong, but would definitely have a nice sides to gains ratio.
yates84
Well-known member
Yes, it is basically an unmethylated pheraplex in structure. Sparta uses 2 andro in our spartan hard and feedback has been excellent so I'm sure OL's version will be killer.
Smont
Legend
Alpha Testing is like testing for acceptance of a product long before it comes out usually done by a member of the company done under lab conditions. Bata testing is performed by unbiased real world users under real world conditions, no different then when a sponser on am is looking for someone to log a product. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Brick Tannen
Member
"If its a precurser to Desoxytest and Desoxytest is not orally avaiable."
Was curious about this as well.
Was curious about this as well.
YoungBodyBuil
Banned
All of your guys questions could easily be answered had the time been taken to read the write-up. It is NOT 2-androstenol the active form of Desoxytestosterone it is the One Step PRECURSOR to 2-androstenol, 2-androstenone.
Hence why I referenced the write up as most questions if not all can be answered right there.
Here's a quote.-
-One-Step Conversion Prohormone:
2-Androstenone (via the 17b-HSD enzyme) -> 2-Androstenol (Desoxytestosterone; Unmethylated Pheraplex)
Regarding the characteristics of 2-Andro, it does not aromatize (due to the lack of a 3-keto and 4-ene), meaning it won't convert to Estrogen, this makes it a dry compound with a reduced risk of water retention, bloating and gynecomastia (enlarged breasts in men). Another important characteristic of 2-Andro is that it's "non-methylated" (not 17a-methylated) unlike other prohormones such as Halodrol, so there is no need for strong liver support like TUDCA while using 2-Andro because it is not hepatotoxic.
On the topic of 2-Andro's target hormone, 2-Androstenol was found to have no activity by oral administration according to the researchers at Searle, [5] possibly because 2-Androstenol is not water soluble and thus cannot be absorbed by the small intestine, unlike 2-Androstenone. [6] This makes the prospect of orally administering 2-Andro to raise in vivo levels of Desoxytestosterone far more logical than orally administering Desoxytestosterone outright.
Another point to address is why 2-Androstenol is commonly referred to as Unmethylated Pheraplex. To convey this simplistically, compare both of the compounds names and you can clearly see Desoxytestosterone is simply Desoxymethyltestosterone without the methyl. In fact, Madol/Pheraplex is a synthetically modified form of 2-Androstenol.
Hence why I referenced the write up as most questions if not all can be answered right there.
Here's a quote.-
-One-Step Conversion Prohormone:
2-Androstenone (via the 17b-HSD enzyme) -> 2-Androstenol (Desoxytestosterone; Unmethylated Pheraplex)
Regarding the characteristics of 2-Andro, it does not aromatize (due to the lack of a 3-keto and 4-ene), meaning it won't convert to Estrogen, this makes it a dry compound with a reduced risk of water retention, bloating and gynecomastia (enlarged breasts in men). Another important characteristic of 2-Andro is that it's "non-methylated" (not 17a-methylated) unlike other prohormones such as Halodrol, so there is no need for strong liver support like TUDCA while using 2-Andro because it is not hepatotoxic.
On the topic of 2-Andro's target hormone, 2-Androstenol was found to have no activity by oral administration according to the researchers at Searle, [5] possibly because 2-Androstenol is not water soluble and thus cannot be absorbed by the small intestine, unlike 2-Androstenone. [6] This makes the prospect of orally administering 2-Andro to raise in vivo levels of Desoxytestosterone far more logical than orally administering Desoxytestosterone outright.
Another point to address is why 2-Androstenol is commonly referred to as Unmethylated Pheraplex. To convey this simplistically, compare both of the compounds names and you can clearly see Desoxytestosterone is simply Desoxymethyltestosterone without the methyl. In fact, Madol/Pheraplex is a synthetically modified form of 2-Androstenol.
Brick Tannen
Member
Wonder how this would compare to say Sup3r 1 or 4?
rtmilburn
Well-known member
At least until more logs come out I would stick to the tried and true 1dhea
NewAgeMayan
Well-known member
Be more like 1 Id think. On paper at least, looks to have slightly different strengths than 1, though. But as someone already noted, wont really know what this compound can do until feedback starts coming in.