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Introducing SUP3R-11 - The Ultimate 11-Ketotestosterone Guide - All you need to know!

Jebrook said:
I completely agree with Hastur. I do believe I would use cycle support for all 12 weeks. The quandary is that although each of the first 3 compounds are considered mild by themselves, you really have no idea how potent the combination of all 3 be. And though they are mild each will affect health markers to a degree for 6 full weeks before embarking on another 6 weeks with a methylated designer and a harsh nandrolone derivative. And yes, add TUDCA during the last 6 weeks as well.
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Awesome bro, thanks for the input, much appreciated!
 
Just ordered a bottle today to add to my upcoming cycle of BSL Super Tren and Brutal 4ce starting June 13th

To say I'm stoked would be an understatement!!
 
1kerry said:
thanks for your time dude! Since I have read isnt necessary, It came to my mind this question because, maybe 1 compound may not need support supps, but 3 its a different story, obviously Im considering ar1macare cycle support for the other part of the cycle TR3N/TR1UMPH , which btw, you think I should add TUDCA??
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Jebrook said:
I completely agree with Hastur. I do believe I would use cycle support for all 12 weeks. The quandary is that although each of the first 3 compounds are considered mild by themselves, you really have no idea how potent the combination of all 3 be. And though they are mild each will affect health markers to a degree for 6 full weeks before embarking on another 6 weeks with a methylated designer and a harsh nandrolone derivative. And yes, add TUDCA during the last 6 weeks as well.
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I am in total agreement with Jebrook, I did not mean to imply to use Ar1macare ONLY during that period, but at the very least it should be used during that period and then carried over. Ar1macare the entire cycle length, and TUDCA during the methyl usage.

Mister_T_ said:
Just ordered a bottle today to add to my upcoming cycle of BSL Super Tren and Brutal 4ce starting June 13th

To say I'm stoked would be an understatement!!
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Awesome, brother! I hope you enjoy the results! I know I have!
 
thinking about getting this and just running it solo at 2 pumps a day for a 30 days just to lose the last bit of fat before pool/beach/lake season is in full effect. could i realistically expect to drop a few body fat % in a month? diet is in check, currently around 165 and 11-12% body fat. Looking to get to 155-160 at 8-9% by July.

i have a little over half a bottle of Ostar1ne as well so i might do 10 mgs a day of that just to get rid of it.

not gonna worry about support sups, but i do have sup3r PCT and nolva on hand for afterwards.
 
Chances of 11-KT increasing anxiety. Ive had a gew stressfull situations, but in all honesty this is the only change I can contribute, new daily anxiety to.
 
Ape McGrapes said:
How are results for everyone who is a month in by now?
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I missed this. I am a higher bf% but I think the effects are noticeable. I'm on an extreme diet and I really think it is helping me hang onto some muscle more than it sometimes gets credit for. Fat loss for me started very fast and has seemed to stop from a weight loss perspective, but my jeans are getting looser and I am tightening my belts an extra notch. I believe I'm seeing some effects in the mirror, but photos don't show those effects.

I think 8 weeks, IME, is going to be more pronounced.

Also, I have been on it for 26 days ...not quite a month yet.
 
Ape McGrapes said:
Chances of 11-KT increasing anxiety. Ive had a gew stressfull situations, but in all honesty this is the only change I can contribute, new daily anxiety to.
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This should reduce cortisol, which is part of your stress response. Typically this should be calming. But I would imagine in a chronic stress situation it would reduce your ability to deal with that stress and may have an anxiolitic effect. But that is just a theory in my head...not researched.
 
hiimnotcool said:
thinking about getting this and just running it solo at 2 pumps a day for a 30 days just to lose the last bit of fat before pool/beach/lake season is in full effect. could i realistically expect to drop a few body fat % in a month? diet is in check, currently around 165 and 11-12% body fat. Looking to get to 155-160 at 8-9% by July.

i have a little over half a bottle of Ostar1ne as well so i might do 10 mgs a day of that just to get rid of it.

not gonna worry about support sups, but i do have sup3r PCT and nolva on hand for afterwards.
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You want to drop 4% BF in a month? Sure, it's possible! 250mg 11-KT with 10mg Ostarine, a caloric deficit of several hundred calories, and increased cardio, I think you can do it! And just hit up Nolva/Sup3r PCT afterwards, and you're good to go!

Ape McGrapes said:
Chances of 11-KT increasing anxiety. Ive had a gew stressfull situations, but in all honesty this is the only change I can contribute, new daily anxiety to.
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HIT4ME said:
This should reduce cortisol, which is part of your stress response. Typically this should be calming. But I would imagine in a chronic stress situation it would reduce your ability to deal with that stress and may have an anxiolitic effect. But that is just a theory in my head...not researched.
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We've had no reports of increased anxiety, I see no plausible mechanism of action to explain 11-KT inducing anxiety, and I myself am prone to higher than average anxiety and have dealt with several situations recently that I coped with quite well while using 250mg a day of 11-KT.
 
Side question - what color is the transdermal supposed to be? Mine is clear. For some reason I thought it would be white. Shake before using??
 
Divo said:
Side question - what color is the transdermal supposed to be? Mine is clear. For some reason I thought it would be white. Shake before using??
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Pretty transparent is what it should be. Mine is very clear but dries and leaves a white film if not spread out very well.
 
Hastur said:
We've had no reports of increased anxiety, I see no plausible mechanism of action to explain 11-KT inducing anxiety, and I myself am prone to higher than average anxiety and have dealt with several situations recently that I coped with quite well while using 250mg a day of 11-KT.
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Yeah, sorry, my post wasn't very clear - I was trying to show that anxiety is unlikely, but if you stretch theory a bit, maybe that could happen - it's unlikely though. I wasn't clear, just thinking out loud.
 
Need some help... I placed my order on the OLUK website Wednesday and still haven't received any kind of confirmation other than the final checkout page. Was hoping someone could look into this for me. I'm on my first bottle and looking to start my second and would really like to not have a lapse in the cycle
 
JONimal said:
Need some help... I placed my order on the OLUK website Wednesday and still haven't received any kind of confirmation other than the final checkout page. Was hoping someone could look into this for me. I'm on my first bottle and looking to start my second and would really like to not have a lapse in the cycle
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Is your PayPal email different than your checkout email? Check both emails.

May also be delayed due to the sale
 
It's happened to me the confirmation will come when it ships you'll get 2 emails one of the order and one saying a note has been added to your email ant it'll be the tracking number
 
I applied my dose today 3hrs ago and there's a party tonight for my bro graduation so there will be a lot of family members. What do you guys think I should do before having contact with anyone the only place it went on that is easily accessible are my wrists?
Jebrook NewAgeMayan Hastur
 
raul87 said:
I applied my dose today 3hrs ago and there's a party tonight for my bro graduation so there will be a lot of family members. What do you guys think I should do before having contact with anyone the only place it went on that is easily accessible are my wrists?
Jebrook NewAgeMayan Hastur
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Don't rub your wrists on anyone. Just try to avoid skin-to-skin contact, especially if sweating.
 
Hastur said:
Don't rub your wrists on anyone. Just try to avoid skin-to-skin contact, especially if sweating.
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Damn ok I might throw on a long sleeve then there's gonna be a few cousins of mine with toddlers that always want me to carry them that's really my main concern. I wasn't going to apply it today cause of this but it slipped my mind. Anything I can use on my hands to make them safe just for shaking hands it's a cool night so no sweating?
 
Transfer is overstated. I don't sweat it at all.

IMO, the product has alrwady dried and probably penetrated the first layer of skin. It would be such minuscule hormone transferring over from any light touching. Remember we spread this over large areas of our bodies for a reason.

Why can't you apply yo other body parts?
 
Ape McGrapes said:
Transfer is overstated. I don't sweat it at all.

IMO, the product has alrwady dried and probably penetrated the first layer of skin. It would be such minuscule hormone transferring over from any light touching. Remember we spread this over large areas of our bodies for a reason.

Why can't you apply yo other body parts?
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I haven't bought the gloves yet and use my wrists to spread it on my traps, behind ears, and shoulders
 
raul87 said:
I haven't bought the gloves yet and use my wrists to spread it on my traps, behind ears, and shoulders
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Gloves aren't that important. Ive never used them with any transdermals. Can't imagine im missing out on much.

I doubt there is that much hormone left on your wrists after spreading it, letting it dry, absord and the transfer from such a small area would be negligible.
 
raul87 said:
Damn ok I might throw on a long sleeve then there's gonna be a few cousins of mine with toddlers that always want me to carry them that's really my main concern. I wasn't going to apply it today cause of this but it slipped my mind. Anything I can use on my hands to make them safe just for shaking hands it's a cool night so no sweating?
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If you washed your hands, shaking hands is absolutely fine. You've rinsed it off. But a long sleeve is a good idea with toddlers involved.

Ape McGrapes said:
Transfer is overstated. I don't sweat it at all.

IMO, the product has alrwady dried and probably penetrated the first layer of skin. It would be such minuscule hormone transferring over from any light touching. Remember we spread this over large areas of our bodies for a reason.

Why can't you apply yo other body parts?
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Transfer isn't overstated as much as it cannot be reliably quantified. We do not know for certain how much is, or isn't, transferred. Risk management and precautionary measures are always recommended. And you would not sweat it, once it's penetrated the skin its not coming back out. The point is, 100% of the product is not absorbed, there will be some amount left dry on your skin, and sweating would allow for this to be rubbed off much easier than if dry. Even if the amount is minuscule, though this cannot be ascertained, androgenic hormones being absorbed by children or women is not something to take lightly.
 
Thanks for the input guys honestly I'm not very concerned about my dad or uncles it's the toddlers since I'm used to carrying them quite often we have a close family so I see them regularly. I'm gonna wear a long sleeve in case one of them runs up to me and maybe grabs my arms but I won't be carrying them. I've washed my hands about 3 times this being my first ever hormonal product I'm just very paranoid about that thanks guys
 
raul87 said:
Thanks for the input guys honestly I'm not very concerned about my dad or uncles it's the toddlers since I'm used to carrying them quite often we have a close family so I see them regularly. I'm gonna wear a long sleeve in case one of them runs up to me and maybe grabs my arms but I won't be carrying them. I've washed my hands about 3 times this being my first ever hormonal product I'm just very paranoid about that thanks guys
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No problem, man! That's what we're here for! You're hands are definitely safe, but the long sleeve shirt is a great idea whenever around women/children and it's applied to areas such as the arms.
 
raul87 said:
Thanks for the input guys honestly I'm not very concerned about my dad or uncles it's the toddlers since I'm used to carrying them quite often we have a close family so I see them regularly. I'm gonna wear a long sleeve in case one of them runs up to me and maybe grabs my arms but I won't be carrying them. I've washed my hands about 3 times this being my first ever hormonal product I'm just very paranoid about that thanks guys
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I think Ape McGrapes point is that we go through some effort to get this through our skin and into our system and it still doesn't fully penetrate. Let's just make up numbers and say that with the solvent and carrier intact, only 50% gets through and 50% is left on your skin. At that point, the solvent is dry and you have a hormone that will not be able to penetrate nearly as well. Maybe 25% of the small amount of the 50% left that transfers gets through. So even if they rubber half of it off, that's 25% of the starting dose that they get on them and 25% of that will penetrate. So maybe 15 mg?

These numbers are completely made up, but they show that it is logically unlikely to cause a huge concern. Hopefully there is less than 50% that doesn't absorb and hopefully the carrier increases absorption of the dry powder by more than 100%.

BUT (I've been told that this word, but, negates everything you say right before it)...Hastur is wise in his point that we really have no idea, as illustrated by the fact that I had to make up fictitious numbers in my example.

And as you are showing the proper concern, it is not a decision for you to make if someone else gets something on their skin that they know nothing about and could have negative consequences. So you are making the correct call from an ethical standpoint, IMO.

You could always just shower an hour after you apply to be sure anything left is washed away.
 
HIT4ME said:
I think Ape McGrapes point is that we go through some effort to get this through our skin and into our system and it still doesn't fully penetrate. Let's just make up numbers and say that with the solvent and carrier intact, only 50% gets through and 50% is left on your skin. At that point, the solvent is dry and you have a hormone that will not be able to penetrate nearly as well. Maybe 25% of the small amount of the 50% left that transfers gets through. So even if they rubber half of it off, that's 25% of the starting dose that they get on them and 25% of that will penetrate. So maybe 15 mg?

These numbers are completely made up, but they show that it is logically unlikely to cause a huge concern. Hopefully there is less than 50% that doesn't absorb and hopefully the carrier increases absorption of the dry powder by more than 100%.

BUT (I've been told that this word, but, negates everything you say right before it)...Hastur is wise in his point that we really have no idea, as illustrated by the fact that I had to make up fictitious numbers in my example.

And as you are showing the proper concern, it is not a decision for you to make if someone else gets something on their skin that they know nothing about and could have negative consequences. So you are making the correct call from an ethical standpoint, IMO.

You could always just shower an hour after you apply to be sure anything left is washed away.
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OK....
If I go to an OL BBQ and six reps applied one dose of Sup3r-KT 30 mins before the event started. How many reps do I have to grope to get a full serving??:friday:
 
GNO said:
OK....
If I go to an OL BBQ and six reps applied one dose of Sup3r-KT 30 mins before the event started. How many reps do I have to grope to get a full serving??:friday:
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Trick question: it's Sup3r-11, not Sup3r-KT ;)
 
GNO said:
OK....
If I go to an OL BBQ and six reps applied one dose of Sup3r-KT 30 mins before the event started. How many reps do I have to grope to get a full serving??:friday:
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Have you seen all I'm taking? Just giving me a high five is anabolic, bro.
 
Just an fyi to those thinking about flying with your kt in the pump....don't.


Today was day 1 of week three. I put the steel pump can in my checked bag. Got to hotel....it had partially exploded leaving a hole in the side.

Now I'm out. No pct. won't be home till Saturday.
 
It is better 4ml all prewo? Dosage about 11,30 am (with 250mg sup3r epi elite) and wo about 12 am.
Again I take TD Trenavar. How much time between the two TD doses?
 
Feiwong said:
It is better 4ml all prewo? Dosage about 11,30 am (with 250mg sup3r epi elite) and wo about 12 am.
Again I take TD Trenavar. How much time between the two TD doses?
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It's flexible, brother. Whatever works best for you! Some days I have to take the full dose at all once due to work. Other days, I split it. And theres no need to space out the Trenavar and SUP3R-11, just apply to different sites and you're good to go.
 
Hastur said:
It's flexible, brother. Whatever works best for you! Some days I have to take the full dose at all once due to work. Other days, I split it. And theres no need to space out the Trenavar and SUP3R-11, just apply to different sites and you're good to go.
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It is good too 2ml prewo 11,30am and 2ml postwo 1,45pm after the shower?
 
Hastur said:
You want to drop 4% BF in a month? Sure, it's possible! 250mg 11-KT with 10mg Ostarine, a caloric deficit of several hundred calories, and increased cardio, I think you can do it! And just hit up Nolva/Sup3r PCT afterwards, and you're good to go!/QUOTE]

My gears......ep1stane, trenavar, sup3r epi, sup3r 11. Diet is modified psfm and carbo reload 24 hours. I'm late a little in the cutting. How much % bf could I loose?
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So I finished my first bottle, need some advice going forward with the second bottle. I have about 8 weeks left of Sup3r-epi, 5 of osta. Running epi for 10 weeks, osta for 6 total. Started the Sup3r 11 2 weeks prior to epiandro, just to make sure I have no reactions as it is a new compound to me. Have been cutting, slight recomping bc of added calories from some bbqs! But will be diving in to lose another 8-10lbs, then maintaining. (Running EC for another 4 weeks as well)

3 options
1. Finish the bottle the next four weeks, going 250ml a day.
2. Finish the bottle over the course of 8 weeks at 125ml a day
3. Cease taking it for four weeks and end the cycle with it when I am leaner, and the osta is taken away, at 250ml a day

Don't know if there will be major difference in results, but looking for some opinions. Thanks in advance.
 
TucanD said:
So I finished my first bottle, need some advice going forward with the second bottle. I have about 8 weeks left of Sup3r-epi, 5 of osta. Running epi for 10 weeks, osta for 6 total. Started the Sup3r 11 2 weeks prior to epiandro, just to make sure I have no reactions as it is a new compound to me. Have been cutting, slight recomping bc of added calories from some bbqs! But will be diving in to lose another 8-10lbs, then maintaining. (Running EC for another 4 weeks as well)

3 options
1. Finish the bottle the next four weeks, going 250ml a day.
2. Finish the bottle over the course of 8 weeks at 125ml a day
3. Cease taking it for four weeks and end the cycle with it when I am leaner, and the osta is taken away, at 250ml a day

Don't know if there will be major difference in results, but looking for some opinions. Thanks in advance.
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How did you react to the first bottle? Did you notice a difference? Part of me says 125 mg a day for some people is sufficient - when XI KT was out, a lot of people said they saw results at just 85 mg/day. I'm not one of those people and I can tell you 250 mg is where I need to be with this stuff. But I can also tell you that taking it longer, the effects do build a little.

So it's a tough call. If you think you will respond to 125 mg. then I would go 8 weeks personally. If you think you need 250 mg...then I think it won't matter if you take a 4 week break and use it at the end or use it now.
 
You can decide for yourself - I've been logging it for a little over 3 weeks. You can join in at

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Here is a quote from my log yesterday:

"...... So in about 3 weeks I've lost 10 pounds, 1.5" on my waist, and 3% bodyfat. "

Today that quote would be 11 pounds and 4% bodyfat, but you know this stuff isn't precise and it fluctuates. Bodyfat % is just a Tanita scale, so it's not super accurate.

This isn't the only product I am running and I'm also on a PSMF. BUT, I've lost very little strength. Really, the strength I've lost I would probably lose just from glycogen depletion.
 
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