thebigt
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it is oral...I think that my low glucose might be playing a role, but I am just guessing...for sure though, the increased appetite is making it really difficult to keep diet clean.
MEGA CUT STACK..BURN XTREME/MEGALAX/11-KT SPRAY/INVICTUS
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it is oral...I think that my low glucose might be playing a role, but I am just guessing...for sure though, the increased appetite is making it really difficult to keep diet clean.
ma70
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If you guys make transdermal laxo I'm interested. I logged BPS Laxacrine, and decided that transdermal Laxo is the way to go over oral, but they haven't brought it back yet and I've been waiting for months for it.
smith_69
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ma70
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Sounds good. I know you guys work amazingly fast
thebigt
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speaking of lax, I did not take any this morning and appetite is much more manageable...for me anyways megalax makes my appetite insanely high!!!
other observances.... I've been putting a spray of 11kt on each side of my chest[around the armpit]and chest is looking tighter. not really any noticeable difference in stomach area since I've added 11kt-spray along with the invictus, but was happy to notice improvement in chest area. one other thing of note, muscles were flat when using invictus solo[no biggie since I lost a entire pants size], since I added 11kt-spray muscles look more full and pumped.
oh yeah, the frequent urination has slowed, but still above norm.
just took my 2nd dose of burn extreme, I think I will be taking 2 a day from now on-the energy is fantastic and appetite control is adequate--as long as I don't take meagalax in the morning...
for now I will just take 1 megalax with dinner, if that works out then I will add another just before bed....
at this rate megalax and burn xtreme will last a good long time!!!
other observances.... I've been putting a spray of 11kt on each side of my chest[around the armpit]and chest is looking tighter. not really any noticeable difference in stomach area since I've added 11kt-spray along with the invictus, but was happy to notice improvement in chest area. one other thing of note, muscles were flat when using invictus solo[no biggie since I lost a entire pants size], since I added 11kt-spray muscles look more full and pumped.
oh yeah, the frequent urination has slowed, but still above norm.
just took my 2nd dose of burn extreme, I think I will be taking 2 a day from now on-the energy is fantastic and appetite control is adequate--as long as I don't take meagalax in the morning...
for now I will just take 1 megalax with dinner, if that works out then I will add another just before bed....
at this rate megalax and burn xtreme will last a good long time!!!
Geoforce
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Iron Legion's is a dropper, but Nutra Innovations is spray.
ma70
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The TetraSorb delivery for MegaLax is proving to be very effective. We've received customer feedback and reviews claiming its unlike any Laxogenin product they've ran before
I like the concept of it, but I did try cyclodextrined Laxogenin (complexed with Ecdy as well) and transdermal Laxo still killed it by a lot IMO, so for now, I'll just be patient and wait for your transdermal product.
thebigt
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I am curious, did the lax you use increase your appetite?
ma70
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Let's see....Ive used Oral Laxogenin, Oral Laxogenin+Ecdy in Cyclodextrin Complexes, and Transdermal Laxogenin and never felt any increase in appetite all dosed between 100-200mg (depending on the product I used at the time). What I did notice were:
1) Better recovery (muscles)
2) Better joint health
3) MAYBE strength increase (really slight though)
Specifically with the Transdermal @ 100mg daily, I noticed a mood increase after applying it that couldn't be explained, as well as forearm vascularity.
IronLegion
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We made a transdermal Laxogenin product called Vedius. We also licensed our carrier (Salvo) to BPS for their Laxocrine...
One problem we saw with TD Laxogenin, there was a number of people who got rashes from it.
One problem we saw with TD Laxogenin, there was a number of people who got rashes from it.
ma70
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This is the product I used. BPS made changes to the carrier though and it was a gel-like transdermal and gave me no problems.
thebigt
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I too am feeling mood increase but I accredit it to invictus and 11kt-spray...now that I've cut down to just 1 cap megalax for now maybe I can isolate things better....I will say this though, my appetite has already decreased by not taking megalax this morning!!!
geez, can I be the only one who is getting increased appetite from megalax?
smith_69
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that was one problem they mentioned during the first run. I saw the other logs and people reported better results, so hopefully the issue has been resolved
ma70
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Imagine if Nutra is the one company that did the oral delivery system right and dosed correctly, more of Laxo's effects come out. Maybe I will even try the oral stuff in the future. With 3 Laxo runs under my belt I think I can see if this stuff is like the others...or better
thebigt
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bps discontinued it!!!
thebigt
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maybe...I have no basis for comparison as this is my 1st run of lax....if I were bulking or even on a recomp I would be loving it at 4 caps!!!
thebigt
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diet is back on track again, stomach is tightening up nicely. jeans are starting to get a little loose.
dosing burn extreme twice a day along with bronkaid, energy is high and appetite is very manageable.
still feeling good, mood is fantastic.
fitness level is much improved since I started this cut, the hot weather isn't bothering me as much as in previous years.
dosing both 11kt-spray and invictus twice a day-I stopped morning doses and now am dosing mid-afternoon-3-3:30pm and at 9pm.
megalax is just 1 cap immediately before I go to bed, thinking of adding another cap with my dinner.
the frequent urination isn't nearly as bad now that I am sweating more due to warmer weather.
I've been doing higher reps and moderate weights for workouts, hard to tell if I've lost any overall strength but my endurance has improved.
will do a weigh in on fri.
dosing burn extreme twice a day along with bronkaid, energy is high and appetite is very manageable.
still feeling good, mood is fantastic.
fitness level is much improved since I started this cut, the hot weather isn't bothering me as much as in previous years.
dosing both 11kt-spray and invictus twice a day-I stopped morning doses and now am dosing mid-afternoon-3-3:30pm and at 9pm.
megalax is just 1 cap immediately before I go to bed, thinking of adding another cap with my dinner.
the frequent urination isn't nearly as bad now that I am sweating more due to warmer weather.
I've been doing higher reps and moderate weights for workouts, hard to tell if I've lost any overall strength but my endurance has improved.
will do a weigh in on fri.
christ83189
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Honestly got something to say... Im a little jealous of your stack lol
thebigt
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I honestly feel it is the best fat loss stack I've ever used....I bought the invictus with my own coin and I am very grateful to nutraceutical innovations for allowing me to run it together in a sponsored log.
big thanks to the guys at NUTRACEUTICAL INNOVATIONS!!!!
smith_69
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just mentioned you on Chems post about this.
smith_69
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from NutraChem
"Sorry for confusion, 5-5.5 sprays per 1ml. So two applications (2ml) is 10-11 sprays.
I'd round down for 1ml and say 5 sprays, and round up for 2mls and say 11 sprays.
Then for 3ml 16 sprays, 4ml 22 sprays, and so on.
It's only 5% off on average, so it probably doses matter much unless you're just OCD."
jalfrey
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Thanks, bro!
smith_69
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anytime
thebigt
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weekly weigh in-191...this is down 6lbs for the week. more than I really want to lose in a week, but once I stopped taking a megalax in the morning on empty stomach the burn xtreme/bronkaid just completely destroyed my appetite....been using 1 burn xtreme/2 bronkaid am, 1 burn xtreme/1 bronkaid mid afternoon. megalx I am dosing 2 with dinner[by far my biggest meal]and 1 immediately before bed.
I am still using the same weight for workouts, but I have lost some reps. so yes, I have lost some strength since I was only lifting at 70% of max.
physique changes are getting pretty dramatic from where I was only month and a half ago, 36 jeans are fitting loose and I would be willing to bet that by the end of this stack I will be wearing 34 jeans comfortably. muscles look full and top abs are very distinct, lower abs are starting to show, been a long time since I had clearly defined lower abs!!!
I am still using the same weight for workouts, but I have lost some reps. so yes, I have lost some strength since I was only lifting at 70% of max.
physique changes are getting pretty dramatic from where I was only month and a half ago, 36 jeans are fitting loose and I would be willing to bet that by the end of this stack I will be wearing 34 jeans comfortably. muscles look full and top abs are very distinct, lower abs are starting to show, been a long time since I had clearly defined lower abs!!!
smith_69
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this brings back memories- i did the same exact thing when the ph derms were available before the ban. I used a plastic glove as well and at the end of the week, put them in a little tray with a little water, warm. get more excesse off, apply that at night once a week.
big note here, the td carrier back then was completely different than today. I remember after applying and washing my hands you could still smell the product. Aww the good old days!
christ83189
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Nice! Thats always a good feeling. Unless you cant afford new pants and dont have a belt...
thebigt
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lol...I had saved the 36's and have a custom leather belt...but I don't have any 34's!!! I guess it's time to upgrade the wardrobe, I have no doubt I will be wearing 34's soon....
christ83189
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Ive got the same issue but with 34's. All my 34's are too big now. Ill have to get 32's soon. I have some but the ones i have that fit my waist are too small around the quads. Even some of my 34's are like that
thebigt
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yup...I've got big legs, used to climb my aunt's high rise stairwell wearing ankle weights. I just get relaxed fit jeans, they are bigger in the legs.
thebigt
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it is becoming a struggle just to get in enough cals...last week I lost 6lbs and I try to stay around a 2lb per week loss. working outdoors in the heat along with burn xtreme and bronkaid is just killing my appetite, I've started adding in more megalax to help INCREASE APETITE!!!
I had very nice results with invictus solo, but adding in the 11kt-spray and running them together is tremendous!!! the invictus melted the fat around my stomach but muscles were flat looking, now even with all of this weight loss muscles look full and pumped.
energy level is very high, and my tolerance to the heat seems a lot better since dropping weight, I can go and go and don't seem to tire.
strength is down slightly, still using the same weight but I have lost some reps. this is a sacrifice I am more than willing to make, since it looks like most of weight being lost is water and fat, muscle tone is very, very good!!!
I had very nice results with invictus solo, but adding in the 11kt-spray and running them together is tremendous!!! the invictus melted the fat around my stomach but muscles were flat looking, now even with all of this weight loss muscles look full and pumped.
energy level is very high, and my tolerance to the heat seems a lot better since dropping weight, I can go and go and don't seem to tire.
strength is down slightly, still using the same weight but I have lost some reps. this is a sacrifice I am more than willing to make, since it looks like most of weight being lost is water and fat, muscle tone is very, very good!!!
thebigt
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plus fitness, energy, mobility and getting dem der compliments from dat der wife!!!
thebigt
Legend
man, it has been pretty hot here lately, today 88 with high humidity!!! no longer am I concerned with frequent urination, I have been sweating so much that I hardly pee at all even while consuming massive amounts of liquids.
my concern right now is not getting enough cals, the burn xtreme/bronkaid combo combined with being in the heat all day has completely destroyed my appetite. I worked out this morning and strength was down considerably.
here is what my plan is...eliminate the bronkaid and go with just 1 burn xtreme 1st thing in morning....up the megalax to the full 6 caps a day...krogers had musclemilk rtd proseries 40 gm protein drinks on clearance for $1.19 so I bought 30 of them, I plan on drinking them throughout the day trying for 4 per day....
my concern right now is not getting enough cals, the burn xtreme/bronkaid combo combined with being in the heat all day has completely destroyed my appetite. I worked out this morning and strength was down considerably.
here is what my plan is...eliminate the bronkaid and go with just 1 burn xtreme 1st thing in morning....up the megalax to the full 6 caps a day...krogers had musclemilk rtd proseries 40 gm protein drinks on clearance for $1.19 so I bought 30 of them, I plan on drinking them throughout the day trying for 4 per day....
ma70
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Hey bigt, I feel bad that I may have misled you or something, but one factor I never realized is that my appetite has always been pretty monstrous so Laxogenin's effects on appetite may have not effected me because it feels normal to me to always be hungry. I found an interesting study, as well as more anecdote on Laxogenin increasing hunger. Not sure if I can link it here, but I'll send you the link via PM if you're interested in the study/article.
thebigt
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if the study shows that lax increases appetite it would verify what I already know....megalax may not increase everyone's appetite, but it certainly does mine, lol...
hey if you can go ahead and post it here, if not send pm...always happy to read new info!!!
thanks!!!
ma70
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I'll send via PM because I'm not sure what is allowed to be linked on here.
thebigt
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cool.
smith_69
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ma70
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I'm 26, turning 27 soon.