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Who's tried lgd?

jtrulove2414 said:
YoungBodyBuil said:
No... 20mg EVERY day... for 2 weeks 10mg EVERY day for the last 2 weeks, and trash the DAA, DAA is worthless. Grab an AI keep it on hand incase any rebound. Grab a cortisol control. 3 basics to pct. SERM, AI, Cort control and if you want to add a natty T-booster.[/QUOTE. Damn I ****ed up
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If you messed up dosing just continue Nolva and taper down EX; (20/20/10/10/10/5) so the dosing is everyday for 2 weeks at 20mg then 10 mg for 3 weeks then 5 for 1 week (Im a fan of longer PCT's but it's not necessary.)
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YoungBodyBuil said:
jtrulove2414 said:
If you messed up dosing just continue Nolva and taper down EX; (20/20/10/10/10/5) so the dosing is everyday for 2 weeks at 20mg then 10 mg for 3 weeks then 5 for 1 week (Im a fan of longer PCT's but it's not necessary.)
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To be honest I feel fine . It's been one week since my last dose of lgd . I have that primeval pct . I'll take nova every day at 20 then dose down. When I'm done should I take that primeval lab pct??
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jtrulove2414 said:
YoungBodyBuil said:
To be honest I feel fine . It's been one week since my last dose of lgd . I have that primeval pct . I'll take nova every day at 20 then dose down. When I'm done should I take that primeval lab pct??
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Primeval labs PCT formula is garbage, your PCT choices weren't the best my friend. It's not about feel the only way that you can tell is bloods that's why it's always recommended to get bloods prior.
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jtrulove2414 said:
YoungBodyBuil said:
I had no idea it was this complex. I get blood work done every year at my job it's always been good. I'm 42 I never had sexual problems I still don't but now I'm worried bro
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Im only harsh because it was hard to get through to you at first.. im generally a lot easier. It is very complex there are still many gaps involving SARM's.. we're guinea pigs.. They're experimental drugs none of which have past clinical trials and the only one that MAY is ostarine. Don;t be worried just follow a correct procedure man. How much nolva do you have? Ill write up a full PCT for you i just need to know how much Nolva you have and if it's Pharma or RC (Research company liquids found online)
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YoungBodyBuil said:
jtrulove2414 said:
Im only harsh because it was hard to get through to you at first.. im generally a lot easier. It is very complex there are still many gaps involving SARM's.. we're guinea pigs.. They're experimental drugs none of which have past clinical trials and the only one that MAY is ostarine. Don;t be worried just follow a correct procedure man. How much nolva do you have? Ill write up a full PCT for you i just need to know how much Nolva you have and if it's Pharma or RC (Research company liquids found online)
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Research company liquid 26 ml left .i have that primeval pct and DAA. Thank you
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YoungBodyBuil said:
jtrulove2414 said:
Im only harsh because it was hard to get through to you at first.. im generally a lot easier. It is very complex there are still many gaps involving SARM's.. we're guinea pigs.. They're experimental drugs none of which have past clinical trials and the only one that MAY is ostarine. Don;t be worried just follow a correct procedure man. How much nolva do you have? Ill write up a full PCT for you i just need to know how much Nolva you have and if it's Pharma or RC (Research company liquids found online)
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Btw also I stacked with mk 677 that was great my skin was so soft lol
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Just finished up 10 weeks of LGD, 4 andro and epi andro. I'm on my second week of PCT now. Gained 15 pounds & some strength. Weight is still the same but strength was down just a bit yesterday and haven't been to the gym yet today. Was taking Mass GH 2 pills a day. 330 of 4 andro a day each pill spaced about 8 hours apart as a base then 750-1000 epi andro preworkout. My PCT is nolva, super pct, gharine, zma & extra vitamin d3. Overall good cycle I felt. Later this year or early next year I think I'll try a 1,4, epiandro run.
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
No... 20mg EVERY day... for 2 weeks 10mg EVERY day for the last 2 weeks, and trash the DAA, DAA is worthless. Grab an AI keep it on hand incase any rebound. Grab a cortisol control. 3 basics to pct. SERM, AI, Cort control and if you want to add a natty T-booster.
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Actually a couple of studies seem to show that DAA has a positive effect on LH production, and therefore T production, if you have low levels. But also appears the have the opposite effect if you have high T levels. So it looks like it would be useful in PCT to get things started back up.

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bobi593 said:
when did you start to feel first effects of LGD ?
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I'd have to go back and check some of my older posts but I believe I started to see the first effects in the middle to end of the 2nd week. By this time muscle fullness and vascularity had increased and it was beginning to be apparent that I would have some good results from LGD. By the end of the 3rd week, things were mostly in full swing. The fourth and 5th weeks were awesome. I honestly wish I had just stayed on LGD for a few weeks after that, instead of bridging into other stuff. It's all a part of the experience though.


UncleSarm said:
Holy crap, just read this post. Toren do you mean to say you hit 10lbs in just a little over 5 weeks?? And with a drop in bf%! This is pretty awesome, I think my next cycle will be LGD. I guess keeping it at 6 weeks (or less) it didn't give time for lethargy to kick in.

What was your PCT and how long?
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You read it right! I seem to respond very well to SARMs for whatever reason. I also lifted like a madman on a mission and I don't acccpet not making gains when I put my mind to it.

Just for the record, I was also on 10mg of MK-677 so there might have been an added bit of synergism between the anabolism of LGD and the increased GH output from the MK.

I don't usually suffer much lethargy if any at all when cycling so I don't expect that I would have seen any lethargy, even if I had continued on LGD for a few more weeks. I didn't think I even need the Dermacrine but I had it so I used it anyway (as planned). I'm sure it helped though. Feeling lethary on cycle is incredibly individualistic and I don't think for a second that LGD will be a lethargy-free cycle for most people. I felt great on it though.

My PCT was actually 2 months long but you have to realize that after the LGD/Dermacrine, I bridged into Trest/Pmag for 6 weeks. I actually dropped the Trest after 4 weeks because my hair was taking a beating. At that time I added in some Ostarine to hopefully make up for some of what I lost when dropping Trest. After a week or two I added in some Rad140 and finished the cycle with Rad/Osta. It was a long and interesting cycle. For my PCT I used a combination of Clomid, Nolva, Aromasin and Formestane (at low doses), and DermaStrength. If I were to do a simple 6-8 week cycle of LGD, I would probably do a simple 4-5 week Nolva PCT.

I will test out a longer run of LGD starting around Sept 1st. It willl be 9 weeks of LGD, which will be kicked with Rad140 for 4 weeks and finished with 11-KT for 5 weeks. I will also use 4-Andro and Dermacrine as base products. Although......I am considering scrapping the last 2 products and running a higher TRT dose of Test. We'll see.
 
Toren said:
I'd have to go back and check some of my older posts but I believe I started to see the first effects in the middle to end of the 2nd week. By this time muscle fullness and vascularity had increased and it was beginning to be apparent that I would have some good results from LGD. By the end of the 3rd week, things were mostly in full swing. The fourth and 5th weeks were awesome. I honestly wish I had just stayed on LGD for a few weeks after that, instead of bridging into other stuff. It's all a part of the experience though.




You read it right! I seem to respond very well to SARMs for whatever reason. I also lifted like a madman on a mission and I don't acccpet not making gains when I put my mind to it.

Just for the record, I was also on 10mg of MK-677 so there might have been an added bit of synergism between the anabolism of LGD and the increased GH output from the MK.

I don't usually suffer much lethargy if any at all when cycling so I don't expect that I would have seen any lethargy, even if I had continued on LGD for a few more weeks. I didn't think I even need the Dermacrine but I had it so I used it anyway (as planned). I'm sure it helped though. Feeling lethary on cycle is incredibly individualistic and I don't think for a second that LGD will be a lethargy-free cycle for most people. I felt great on it though.

My PCT was actually 2 months long but you have to realize that after the LGD/Dermacrine, I bridged into Trest/Pmag for 6 weeks. I actually dropped the Trest after 4 weeks because my hair was taking a beating. At that time I added in some Ostarine to hopefully make up for some of what I lost when dropping Trest. After a week or two I added in some Rad140 and finished the cycle with Rad/Osta. It was a long and interesting cycle. For my PCT I used a combination of Clomid, Nolva, Aromasin and Formestane (at low doses), and DermaStrength. If I were to do a simple 6-8 week cycle of LGD, I would probably do a simple 4-5 week Nolva PCT.

I will test out a longer run of LGD starting around Sept 1st. It willl be 9 weeks of LGD, which will be kicked with Rad140 for 4 weeks and finished with 11-KT for 5 weeks. I will also use 4-Andro and Dermacrine as base products. Although......I am considering scrapping the last 2 products and running a higher TRT dose of Test. We'll see.
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Why not run 11-kt the whole time? 5 weeks seems on the short end for that compound.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Why not run 11-kt the whole time? 5 weeks seems on the short end for that compound.
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In my opinion 9 weeks is not necessary to see the benefits of 11-KT. The last time I used it, I saw my best results in the first 5 weeks, and I saw no additional benefits the last 2 weeks. I'm not saying benefits can't or won't be seen, just that the extra weeks, for me, is not necessary to get the results I desire. I'd also prefer not to mess with cortisol for 2+ months, and on top of that, the last time I ran LGD, my joints were a bit dry and clicky. The combo of LGD/11-KT for 9 weeks would probably be too hard on my joints.

I think people who are looking to cut or shed a lot of bodyfat might see increased benefitts from running it longer but I stay pretty lean all year 'round.. The last time I used it my dosing was 1-1.5 ml (85-127.5mg) and I saw good results. This time I will be using 1.5-2.0 ml (127.5-170mg). I think that will end up being a nice finisher for me.

If I do end up dropping 4-Andro/Dermacrine for Test P, I'd probably extend the cycle by a week or two and in that case, I would probably add a week or two of 11-KT.

Is it September yet?
 
Toren said:
In my opinion 9 weeks is not necessary to see the benefits of 11-KT. The last time I used it, I saw my best results in the first 5 weeks, and I saw no additional benefits the last 2 weeks. I'm not saying benefits can't or won't be seen, just that the extra weeks, for me, is not necessary to get the results I desire. I'd also prefer not to mess with cortisol for 2+ months, and on top of that, the last time I ran LGD, my joints were a bit dry and clicky. The combo of LGD/11-KT for 9 weeks would probably be too hard on my joints.

I think people who are looking to cut or shed a lot of bodyfat might see increased benefitts from running it longer but I stay pretty lean all year 'round.. The last time I used it my dosing was 1-1.5 ml (85-127.5mg) and I saw good results. This time I will be using 1.5-2.0 ml (127.5-170mg). I think that will end up being a nice finisher for me.

If I do end up dropping 4-Andro/Dermacrine for Test P, I'd probably extend the cycle by a week or two and in that case, I would probably add a week or two of 11-KT.

Is it September yet?
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Ahh I gotcha. Good thinking, taking your experiences into account. I'm going to be running 8 weeks of 250mg 11-kt alongside the beginning of my next cycle.
 
Wow, you guys were disusing some high dosages. I'm over here wondering what a 6 week run @5mg would yield. Anyone know if there are any logs of LGD at a low dosage?
 
Joe12 said:
Wow, you guys were disusing some high dosages. I'm over here wondering what a 6 week run @5mg would yield. Anyone know if there are any logs of LGD at a low dosage?
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they are out there but different places- most logs are shown at a higher rate because they bought caps and if the cap was 10, well you get the idea
 
smith_69 said:
they are out there but different places- most logs are shown at a higher rate because they bought caps and if the cap was 10, well you get the idea
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Yup, I know what you are saying. I just snagged a bottle with 5mg caps... which is part of the reason I was interested in 5mg use over 6 (maybe 8) weeks. Wondering if a small dose could yield sold results with lower sides. 5 to 10 seems like a good jump.
 
Joe12 said:
Yup, I know what you are saying. I just snagged a bottle with 5mg caps... which is part of the reason I was interested in 5mg use over 6 (maybe 8) weeks. Wondering if a small dose could yield sold results with lower sides. 5 to 10 seems like a good jump.
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A lower-dosed and longer cycle could yield some nice results. Unfortunately it's one of those things that you are not going to know until you give it a go. Some peoplle claim minimal results on LGD while guys like me seem to be hyper-responders. We don't know until we try.

My best advice to you is to plan for both scenarios. Start out at your proposed 5mg and monitor results. If after 21 days you are not seeing any results or you believe the results are mild, bump up the dose. It's all a part of the experience - figuring out what works for us as individuals and what doesn't. We learn as we go and that experience will ALWAYS be better than what someone on a forum tells us.

Personally, based upon my experience with LGD, 8-12 mg is great and I will try 8-16mg next time. A huge factor in all of this is the results you want to see. If you are expecting mild results, mild dosing may be just what the doctor ordered. If you are expecting to see phenomenal gains, your dosing would need to line up with your expectations. Again, it all comes down to first-hand experience, along with second-hand suggestions as a guide.
 
Toren said:
A lower-dosed and longer cycle could yield some nice results. Unfortunately it's one of those things that you are not going to know until you give it a go. Some peoplle claim minimal results on LGD while guys like me seem to be hyper-responders. We don't know until we try.

My best advice to you is to plan for both scenarios. Start out at your proposed 5mg and monitor results. If after 21 days you are not seeing any results or you believe the results are mild, bump up the dose. It's all a part of the experience - figuring out what works for us as individuals and what doesn't. We learn as we go and that experience will ALWAYS be better than what someone on a forum tells us.

Personally, based upon my experience with LGD, 8-12 mg is great and I will try 8-16mg next time. A huge factor in all of this is the results you want to see. If you are expecting mild results, mild dosing may be just what the doctor ordered. If you are expecting to see phenominal gains, your dosing would need to line up with your expectations. Again, it all comes down to first-hand experience, along with second-hand suggestions as a guide.
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and take it from pepperoni, he knows - ;o)
 
Im on my 4th week of an 8 week cycle which is my first cycle. Im 5'7 started at 164 at 10%bf now im 173 at 8%bf. According to a hand held omron. Eating around 3200 cals. Lovin it
 
I think 5 mg is a waist of time for LGD should go 10 mg for sure and run 6 weeks, 4 weeks is to short for any compound in my experience. Except for methyl 1- androstenediol or pheraplex.
 
16mg is the sweet spot of LGD with 12 being very solid. If i were to run lgd again id do 4 weeks 12 mg 4 weeks 16 mg, stacked with Super-2 and Epi-Andro
 
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