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This might be a dumb question...but how do you close/lock the pump on the bottle? I'm afraid of it drying out and transporting it safely without it exploding everywhere.
 
For Europe guys here on this thread please PM me regarding our products on retailers,distributors and stores in EU since now Sup3r 11 is landing everywhere here ;)
 
So I am not looking through pages upon pages...what are the optimal sites to apply? How much time for absorption? How do you deal with the white flakes after it dries? Thanks for the help.
 
khall1974 said:
So I am not looking through pages upon pages...what are the optimal sites to apply? How much time for absorption? How do you deal with the white flakes after it dries? Thanks for the help.
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IME with transdermal the best area are delts with nitrile gloves after shower. I usually apply TD products and then I wait like 5-10 minutes.
 
ECUKingbuddy said:
Totally agree with the above about limiting risk to love ones... why even risk it? I am in a newly started relationship so, yall know how the honeymoon phase can be. I just make sure my 2nd application is done on the tops of my feet and then wear socks after it dries... best way for me right now to limit any transfer while still being able to take care of business

Anyways, I am now a few days in and starting to notice a slight leaning affect already. Nothings really changed in my diet and I have actually slacked with cardio this week due to work... but I woke up today and looked leaner.... Love the compound and clearly this carrier is doing work ;)
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Do the tops of your feet work? How do you apply the gel? Let me know how it is treating you.
 
Do you squirt on the site or rub it in with your hand? Trying to reduce transfer and get the most out of product.
 
khall1974 said:
So I am not looking through pages upon pages...what are the optimal sites to apply? How much time for absorption? How do you deal with the white flakes after it dries? Thanks for the help.
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I like shoulders , traps, inner thigh and top of foot if needed. I go over the area when dry with a squirt of androgel or dmso. It was mentioned hand sanitizer would work too. I am going to water bath my 2nd bottle to see if it reduces grit.
 
khall1974 said:
So I am not looking through pages upon pages...what are the optimal sites to apply? How much time for absorption? How do you deal with the white flakes after it dries? Thanks for the help.
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I'll go ahead and look through those pages for you to quote myself:

Hastur said:
I do have specific application sites for the two transdermals. Allow me to delve in... The two most important factors when using transdermals are site of application and surface area of application. In a paper published in the book "Transdermal Absorption of Dermatological Products", the percutaneous absorption of benzoic acid was measured at 11 different sites. From this paper it would appear optimal to apply transdermals to the postauricular/neck/clavicle region. This would be behind the ear, down the side of the neck, around the front of the traps and over your collar bones. Picture included to help illustrate.

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Depending on the dosage, you may be able to apply to both sides of the neck and not require other application sites. However with 2 transdermals, you likely require other sites unless you are using very low dosages. For this, we need to consider the thickness of the stratum corneum at the site of application, because the thicker it is the less flux you'll achieve. And thickness of the stratum corneum is highly variable across different areas of the body, due to differences in the number of stratum corneum cell layers. According to one Japanese study (Z. Ya-Xian, 1999) where hundreds of subjects had their number of stratum corneum cell layers at many points measured: Genitals: 6, Face: 9, Neck: 10, Scalp: 12, Trunk: 13, Limbs: 15, Palms and soles: 47, Heels: 86. Now Genitals, Face and Scalp should be avoided. We are already utilizing the Neck. So the Trunk is the next logical location for application. I apply to the upper chest and upper abdominal region.

The second factor regards surface area, and for this we must consider transdermal flux, which is measured in µg/cm²/hour, so the more square centimeters you spread your dose over, the more flux you'll achieve. Spread the transdermal as thinly and as broadly as possible for optimal results. (Note: Please do not apply to the face or genitals. Those areas contain a lot of sensitive nerve-endings, and application at these areas may cause pain or discomfort.)

In summary, spread your transdermals as thinly and broadly as possible behind the ear, down the neck, around the traps, and over the collar bones. And if you require more application sites, utilize the trunk, specifically upper chest and the upper abdominal region.
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Edit: Went ahead and added my quote to the write-up under the Q&A section.
 
Tina Tran said:
This might be a dumb question...but how do you close/lock the pump on the bottle? I'm afraid of it drying out and transporting it safely without it exploding everywhere.
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After using a pump, while its fully pushed down, twist it back into the locked position, the same way you unlocked it the first time.

chainsaw said:
Did I read somewhere in here that guys were rubbing them on their testicles
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Please. Don't. Do. This.

raul87 said:
One question. Drinking when using this standalone?
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I wouldn't recommend it. 11-KT isn't methylated, so it's not liver toxic like other anabolics, but even the mildest anabolics cause negative effects to various biomarkers, and drinking most certainly doesn't help this.
 
Avengeme said:
Same here man! I feel like a bottomless pit!
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damn, all I need lol. I am a bottomless pit in the base case so might as well be a bottomless pit with abs :op:
 
Where do you guys applicate it ? Shoulders , waist or forearms ?

I used Ep1c Unleashed TD in the past and used it on my forearms and shoulders aswell. Just wanted to be sure on Super 11
 
Crazyguy1991 said:
Where do you guys applicate it ? Shoulders , waist or forearms ?

I used Ep1c Unleashed TD in the past and used it on my forearms and shoulders aswell. Just wanted to be sure on Super 11
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Neck, clavicles, pecs, delts are most popular. Inner thighs, backs of knees/calves, or tops of feet if worried about cross contamination. Upper body is most effective IMO.
 
I rub it in with nitrile gloves...should I continue to rub it in until dry or spread it out and let it air dry?
 
Crazyguy1991 said:
Where do you guys applicate it ? Shoulders , waist or forearms ?

I used Ep1c Unleashed TD in the past and used it on my forearms and shoulders aswell. Just wanted to be sure on Super 11
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There is a photo addressing the optimal application sites in the write up, which is the very first post. The visual may help.

khall1974 said:
I rub it in with nitrile gloves...should I continue to rub it in until dry or spread it out and let it air dry?
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Either works.
 
Guys, some questions...

My "global" BF% is around 12/13%. However almost all the fat is around the gut. I´m reasonably lean in the rest of the body (i would guess like a 10/11% "normal" person), however my gut seems like a 16 or 17 BF% person. I have 36yo, only train for 6 years and that doesn´t help neither, but i guess it´s due my genetics because i always was like that, even in my teens, when i was a little underweight. Since i remember, i never had my abs visible, regardless my weight or my diet.

I´m not sure, but i guess maybe it´s due to high amounts of cortisol because i suffer from chronic anxiety.

My goal isn´t loose total weight, but fat around the gut. I currently weight 171lbs and it´s been a pain to gain lean mass. The results are showing up but pretty slow. I can´t risk to loose any of it.

My diet is not 100% in point, but 90%.

So i wanna ask if Sup3r-11 could be good for this kind of situation or where it shines it´s at higher bf% and for people who want´s to loose total weight.

About PCT... i know everyones talks to not go in OTC route... but being such a mild compound and if running at low dosages and not for a long time, it´s really necessary to take a Serm? Can´t an OCT do the trick? It´s not easy to get a Serm here and theres a risk to get a counterfeit one. I´ve read somewhere that 11-OXO doesn´t even need a PCT if running at low dosages. It´s this so much different?

Last, can this have any negative impact in the pre-existing anxiety?
 
How to run the following...
1 bottle OL lgd
2x TD tren
2x sup3r-11
Is arm1care needed.
Pct
Super pct and clomid.
I would like 8 week cycle. Thanks
 
rotherhammad said:
How to run the following...
1 bottle OL lgd
2x TD tren
2x sup3r-11
Is arm1care needed.
Pct
Super pct and clomid.
I would like 8 week cycle. Thanks
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I'd take Arimacare plus additional TUDCA if it were me running the cycle personally.
Put together a cycle yourself and then ask for opinions on it
 
DoubleM101 said:
Guys, some questions...

My "global" BF% is around 12/13%. However almost all the fat is around the gut. I´m reasonably lean in the rest of the body (i would guess like a 10/11% "normal" person), however my gut seems like a 16 or 17 BF% person. I have 36yo, only train for 6 years and that doesn´t help neither, but i guess it´s due my genetics because i always was like that, even in my teens, when i was a little underweight. Since i remember, i never had my abs visible, regardless my weight or my diet.

I´m not sure, but i guess maybe it´s due to high amounts of cortisol because i suffer from chronic anxiety.

My goal isn´t loose total weight, but fat around the gut. I currently weight 171lbs and it´s been a pain to gain lean mass. The results are showing up but pretty slow. I can´t risk to loose any of it.

My diet is not 100% in point, but 90%.

So i wanna ask if Sup3r-11 could be good for this kind of situation or where it shines it´s at higher bf% and for people who want´s to loose total weight.

About PCT... i know everyones talks to not go in OTC route... but being such a mild compound and if running at low dosages and not for a long time, it´s really necessary to take a Serm? Can´t an OCT do the trick? It´s not easy to get a Serm here and theres a risk to get a counterfeit one. I´ve read somewhere that 11-OXO doesn´t even need a PCT if running at low dosages. It´s this so much different?

Last, can this have any negative impact in the pre-existing anxiety?
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In THEORY, you don't need a PCT if you use a low dose of 11-KT. But you may be able to use full blown testosterone and not need PCT either. Don't risk it. Get a SERM if you can. What country are you in? Maybe someone her can help you in private.
 
DoubleM101 said:
Guys, some questions...

My "global" BF% is around 12/13%. However almost all the fat is around the gut. I´m reasonably lean in the rest of the body (i would guess like a 10/11% "normal" person), however my gut seems like a 16 or 17 BF% person. I have 36yo, only train for 6 years and that doesn´t help neither, but i guess it´s due my genetics because i always was like that, even in my teens, when i was a little underweight. Since i remember, i never had my abs visible, regardless my weight or my diet.

I´m not sure, but i guess maybe it´s due to high amounts of cortisol because i suffer from chronic anxiety.

My goal isn´t loose total weight, but fat around the gut. I currently weight 171lbs and it´s been a pain to gain lean mass. The results are showing up but pretty slow. I can´t risk to loose any of it.

My diet is not 100% in point, but 90%.

So i wanna ask if Sup3r-11 could be good for this kind of situation or where it shines it´s at higher bf% and for people who want´s to loose total weight.

About PCT... i know everyones talks to not go in OTC route... but being such a mild compound and if running at low dosages and not for a long time, it´s really necessary to take a Serm? Can´t an OCT do the trick? It´s not easy to get a Serm here and theres a risk to get a counterfeit one. I´ve read somewhere that 11-OXO doesn´t even need a PCT if running at low dosages. It´s this so much different?

Last, can this have any negative impact in the pre-existing anxiety?
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Chonic anxiety can lead to chronic elevations of cortisol. SUP3R-11 works for high or low body fat percentage, it's ability to be effective is not dependent on your pre-existing body fat percentage. A lot of people keep trying to convince themselves or others that OTC PCT will be enough, but as I address in the write-up under the Q&A section, no blood work to ascertain numbers, SERM is a must. What you choose to do is your own decision, but I do not recommend using it without a proper PCT on hand, because everyone reacts differently. It could be more suppressive for you than it is for others. And what applies to Oral 11-OXO does not apply to TD 11-KT.
 
infinitepower said:
it has probably been asked but can i use this as a test base?
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No. You cannot. 4-Andro and Epiandro can be. And Trest technically can, as well.

rotherhammad said:
How to run the following...
1 bottle OL lgd
2x TD tren
2x sup3r-11
Is arm1care needed.
Pct
Super pct and clomid.
I would like 8 week cycle. Thanks
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BamBam0319 said:
I'd take Arimacare plus additional TUDCA if it were me running the cycle personally.
Put together a cycle yourself and then ask for opinions on it
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Agreed. And depending on the Tren dosage, maybe Caber. The Prolactin support in Ar1macare is good, but if you use a higher dose of Tren, I don't mess around, I use Caber at least 2x a week.
 
JONimal said:
Any reason not 1-andro???
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1-andro can't be used as a test base as it doesn't convert to or act like testosterone in the body. If anything it would cause more lethargy.
 
JONimal said:
Any reason not 1-andro???
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It converts to Dehydroboldenone, which doesn't fulfill the biological processes Testosterone can, nor does it aromatizes to Estrogen or 5-alpha reduce to DHT to like Testosterone can. It causes lethargy and requires a Test base, and cannot be used as one.
 
All this talk about where to apply concerned about it getting on there partner, but not once has anyone mentioned applying it on there ass. Slightly concerned about my friends on here..... Lmao
 
B Man said:
All this talk about where to apply concerned about it getting on there partner, but not once has anyone mentioned applying it on there ass. Slightly concerned about my friends on here..... Lmao
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Well that's definitely thinking outside the box. In nearly 900 posts, not a single person as mentioned applying it to their glutes... I can't honestly say the skin is likely significantly thicker on the glutes and wouldn't lead to optimal absorption. ;)
 
Hastur said:
Well that's definitely thinking outside the box. In nearly 900 posts, not a single person as mentioned applying it to their glutes... I can't honestly say the skin is likely significantly thicker on the glutes and wouldn't lead to optimal absorption. ;)
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I guess I could have used the correct term glutes instead, sounds a little more PG13 :)

I start running mine Saturday, ready to see what this stuff is capable of.
 
B Man said:
I guess I could have used the correct term glutes instead, sounds a little more PG13 :)

I start running mine Saturday, ready to see what this stuff is capable of.
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Let us know how the glute application works out for you! ;)
 
Anybody's bottle of 11-kt going way too quick? There is no way my bottle will last 30 days.... it has a couple days left, max.

Been doing 2 pumps ED and was planning on an 8 week cycle.
 
Scoons33 said:
Anybody's bottle of 11-kt going way too quick? There is no way my bottle will last 30 days.... it has a couple days left, max.

Been doing 2 pumps ED and was planning on an 8 week cycle.
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Ive been thinking the same thing haha not even 2 weeks in and I have no idea how this will last 4 weeks. I've been using an oral syringe too measuring 2ml exactly each dose. ( 2 times a day)
 
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AndrewMcD said:
Ive been thinking the same thing haha not even 2 weeks in and I have no idea how this will last 4 weeks. I've been using an oral syringe too measuring 2ml exactly each dose. ( 2 times a day)
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I have been using the pump only. I assumed the pump was measuring improperly.
 
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