cubs1987
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on hand = in your possession
Introducing SUP3R-11 - The Ultimate 11-Ketotestosterone Guide - All you need to know!
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on hand = in your possession
Hastur
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Thank you, sir! I will always take the time to help if I can! Don't apologize for asking questions, ever. It's the fastest way to learn! And I agree, when I first started, I thought SARMs were going to be too potent for me, now I'm planning on running 11-KT/Trest/Andros, haha. Take your time, go slow, we're here to help along the way!
NewAgeMayan
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Ask as many questions as you see fit, man. The last thing we want is to have you guys run our products and encounter probs that mightve been avoided, or at least minimised, had you been steered in a better direction prior. We want you going into any cycle feeling confident in the product and yourself
I think we all felt intimidated when going into our first hormonal run, to some extent at least. And I dont want to suggest complacency but I expect you will have a trouble-free run with something like SUP3R-11.
josun
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so whats a good serm and aI to use?
stankyleg
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Yes sir. At that age, this will be magic.
josun
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im a little scared to Bruh
NewAgeMayan
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Start your dosing lower for a week or two to gauge reaction and get a 'feel' for things. Once you see you are fine this will have a considerable positive psychological impact, and you will end up having a better cycle.
That, and having all precautionary measures in place, will ease your concerns, believe me.
Adam1
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I will be waiting and watching for them details!
Hastur
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In my personal opinion, the best SERM is Toremifene, and the best AI is Exemestane. People's opinions will differ on the matter, however.
No need to be scared, brother. Educate yourself as much as possible and make an informed decision!
^ Agreed!
Hastur
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I actually have edited the main post with the details since that statement, there was a placeholder there previously. Any specific questions you have that are not answered by the main post, please feel free to ask!
Adam1
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Cool. Thanks man. I will hit you up later, already placed my order!
Hastur
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Sounds good, brother! You can PM me, or just post any questions you have here in this thread!
saywutrly
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The reason we specify to have your ancillaries "on hand" is in case something unforseen happens. With 11kt, this risk is extremely low, likely the lowest of any AAS compound. That notwithstanding, you would hate to be a one-in-a-million to have some adverse reaction and have to discontinue use without being able to start PCT immediately following because you hadn't ordered it yet. So, if you end a suppressive hormonal cycle, that is how you know that you need to start your SERM. This is why you will hear many of us say "no SERM, no cycle."
As for an AI, usually subjective cues are used. Definitely educate yourself on the symptoms of high estrogen.
hamdysayed
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Just placed an order doing that
Hastur
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Nice, brother! I have two bottles of SUP3R-11 on the way myself, going to start my log this week! So pumped!
Adam1
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In on the log!!
Hastur
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I promise, it'll be a good one!
I'll post a link to the log once my SUP3R-11 arrives and my cycle begins!Hastur
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In all honesty, no. Guys cruise on Mast, so I can't imagine using 11-KT on and off as such would be an issue for someone who is on TRT.
BamBam0319
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HIT4ME
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Aight, I was waiting on a case, but I didn't want to wait any longer and either miss the sale or have them run out of stock, so I just bought 6 bottles of Sup3r-11, 2 bottls of Sup3r-PCT and 2 bottles of BLR Exotherm. I will add in a SERM and maybe some 7-OH for the PCT. I've normally run Alphamax and was going to run Alphamax-XT since they reformulated it, but Sup3r-PCT has some of the other things I'd run with it (like DAA) and still had the arimistane. I think the Sup3r-PCT with Exotherm and a SERM should be pretty good for this, since my goal is to lean out quite a bit.
TucanD
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Would be interested to see the effects on your cortisol long term, and if you become desensitized to it at all
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rotherhammad
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Would the use of either Sup3r-11 or the serm(clomid) show on a standard drug test? These are legal in the UK??
Would Sup3r-11 run well with Ostarine or better with LGD??
Thanks guys
Would Sup3r-11 run well with Ostarine or better with LGD??
Thanks guys
Jebrook
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Nope on the drug test. Depends on your goals for stacking. I'd stack with Osta to cut and preserve mass and strength. I'd stack with LGD for a lean bulk or recomp.
stankyleg
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I feel sorry for their girlfriends. #banginglikeascreendoor
Hastur
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If he is cycling on and off as stated, he shouldn't become desensitized at all.
On a drug test, no. As an athlete being tested for performance enhancing drugs, possibly. But it would depend on the sport and governing body. I agree completely with Jebrook, Ostarine/11-KT for a Cut, and LGD/11-KT for a Recomp/Lean Bulk.
Haha, that appears to be the universal concensus on crusing with Mast as well.
hamdysayed
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GNO
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Not necessarily an insider sale (which is in my mind is an exclusive launch sale direct from our site).
The Sup3r-11 flash sale requires you to buy a stack with an Elite Andro. It's a great deal no doubt, but it's a flash sale
hamdysayed
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Not necessarily an insider sale (which is in my mind is an exclusive launch sale direct from our site).
The Sup3r-11 flash sale requires you to buy a stack with an Elite Andro. It's a great deal no doubt, but it's a flash sale
Yeah buy super 11 get free epiandro is the deal with 30%off code...
GNO
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Even if you already bought Sup3r-11 ...Get both deals!
hamdysayed
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NewAgeMayan
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Jebrook laid it out here bro:
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And yeah sign up at our website hm page for weekly/fortnightly sales.
stankyleg
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I personally didn't notice any fat burning effects from GW. Endurance, big time. It also is great on lipids and cholesterol during cycle. I always take it when I run tren
Hastur
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The potential for synergy is there, PPAR-Delta agonism and Cortisol inhibition should lead to pretty decent fat loss, but of course it comes down to diet and exercise. At maintenance calories or in a deficit, it would be a pretty decent stack.
Hastur
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The increased GH from Ghar1ne would also be synergistic with Cortisol inhibition from SUP3R-11, though the bloating and water retention from Ghar1ne may obscure visual fat loss. Also, the increased IGF-1 from GHar1ne would be synergistic with the androgen receptor agonism from SUP3R-11. So you could expect fat loss and increase muscle mass. Of course, this is dose dependent and variables such as diet and training style play heavily into the results you would get.
Geoforce
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Most go with AI/Test Booster (or PCT product) after the run. Some bros run AI's during the run. SERM is for safety in case of adverse sides. Should not be necessary at all with this compound though I do echo the better SERM than sorry advice throughout this thread.
Personally I'd start at a slightly lower dose as a beginner and see how things are going. Taper up from there. Essentially no need to start at the highest dose if you've never done anything like this. Tolerance assessment and all that. Easier to start low and go up than to start high and go down!
mcc23
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Thank you for the advice.
Hastur
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No one should be running an AI during the cycle, 11-KT does not aromatize. You can crash your Estrogen by doing this. It's to have on hand in case Estrogenic side effects are encountered, which would be very unlikely with 11-KT. The only other reason to use an AI during an 11-KT cycle is if it's stacked with a compound such as Trest. The SERM on the other hand is not for safety in case of adverse sides, it is to more reliably restart the HPTA during PCT. Because 11-KT may be less suppressive than other compounds, this does not mean it can't or won't cause HPTA suppression, and with each individual being unique, some are likely more suppressed than others, therefore a universal recommendation of a SERM in PCT.
Hastur
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Precisely! Thank you! Repped.
GNO
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This guy knows!
I would sum it up by saying if you are not going to get pre/post blood tests done run a SERM no matter how you feel.
Adam1
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Man, this is a good deal. I already jumped on the one from N-verse but...what kind of shelf life am I looking at with that trans-D and otherwise orals? Bout to get more and put a picture on the stash thread! LOL
NewAgeMayan
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Orals should last for donkeys years, but I wouldnt want to make an ass of myself and claim the same for td's.
Adam1
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I plan on running that same stack. My plan is to taper up over a 5 or 6 week run. I wonder if you would recommend an ai to regulate the trest and maybe a suggested regimen. I have never ran ai on cycle, only post. I want this set up right. I also wonder if I should really just run w/o the ai and add it if needed. Assuming it would be effective to add it mid-cycle if estro sides start to rain on my parade.