Hawkwarrior
Member
I've been told to not run super dmz 2 or msten for my first cycle .is it because I wouldn't be able to handle the sides? Are the sides that strong? I'm running 4 now by itself..
First cycle sides?
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Jebrook
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Sides can be very harsh. I always recommend starting with weaker compounds like the andros. This is exactly what I've done with great success. Methyls take quite a toll on our bodies. The key to longevity and successful cycling isn't to take the strongest possible stack you can. This may lead to big fast gains but they aren't maintainable. The real key is to use the safest and smallest amount of compounds possible to achieve your desired results. Building one's physique is a marathon race rather than a sprint to the finish line. Just my .02
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.mrgoomba
Member
what do you mean by you are running 4 now?
YoungBodyBuil
Banned
Believe he means 4-AD
YoungBodyBuil
Banned
Sides can be very harsh. I always recommend starting with weaker compounds like the andros. This is exactly what I've done with great success. Methyls take quite a toll on our bodies. The key to longevity and successful cycling isn't to take the strongest possible stack you can. This may lead to big fast gains but they aren't maintainable. The real key is to use the safest and smallest amount of compounds possible to achieve your desired results. Building one's physique is a marathon race rather than a sprint to the finish line. Just my .02
Always putting out solid advice follow his words.
YoungBodyBuil
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In regards to your other thread in which you said you're coming off an opiate addiction.
Why are you deciding to cycle if you haven't given yourself proper time to get reacquainted with working out? If you start prohormones right after an opiate addiction you could very easily become addicted to steroids/PH's just because its not talked about doesn't mean its not a possibility or common.. Don't do it man you don't want to possible feed into another addiction! If working out is your saving grace in withdrawals then just stick with it. Please let this sink in ive had family members relapse and just start a new drug, steroids and ph's are just that.. a drug, and very powerful. Just taking the time to try confince you otherwise as it hits home for me.
Why are you deciding to cycle if you haven't given yourself proper time to get reacquainted with working out? If you start prohormones right after an opiate addiction you could very easily become addicted to steroids/PH's just because its not talked about doesn't mean its not a possibility or common.. Don't do it man you don't want to possible feed into another addiction! If working out is your saving grace in withdrawals then just stick with it. Please let this sink in ive had family members relapse and just start a new drug, steroids and ph's are just that.. a drug, and very powerful. Just taking the time to try confince you otherwise as it hits home for me.
UncleSarm
Well-known member
Sides can be very harsh. I always recommend starting with weaker compounds like the andros. This is exactly what I've done with great success. Methyls take quite a toll on our bodies. The key to longevity and successful cycling isn't to take the strongest possible stack you can. This may lead to big fast gains but they aren't maintainable. The real key is to use the safest and smallest amount of compounds possible to achieve your desired results. Building one's physique is a marathon race rather than a sprint to the finish line. Just my .02
If I wasn't already in that mind frame, you would have convinced me stay with mild stuff.
Oh, and I see that you're an OL rep. Now that Nutrition Distribution LLC's suit against IML was dismissed (and soon likely so will their suit against Revolt Pharma) is OL bringing back their SARMs line? Please say yes!
Jebrook
Well-known member
I hadn't been following the lawsuits honestly. I'll check, but I have a feeling that the SARMs legality question for sale as health supplements is still gonna be controversial.
UncleSarm
Well-known member
I just cross posted this same question to the OL forum. Sorry for the cross post.
Tiocfaidh
Active member
it wasn't dismissed because of the legality of the actual substance. anyone with half a brain knows you can't sell experimental drugs <by their own definition> as supplements. its a matter of time before the fda and doj show up at their doorstep if they continue.
Jebrook
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No worries bro. Some of my demi-bros may have more insight or info. I have heard no talk of this as of yet.
UncleSarm
Well-known member
I am aware of that, however unless someone overdoses on Osta, it's not likely to happen. How long was ephedrine on the market before they yanked it? Not until someone had a heart attack.
Tiocfaidh
Active member
ephedrine wasn't an experimental drug. it was legal before action was taken. these by their definition were never legal. by selling experimental drugs as supplements across state lines, collecting money, etc, you are basically setting yourself up for federal charges that will **** you for the rest of your life. and it takes time to build that case, which they are doing.
UncleSarm
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Olympus Labs UK is out of the reach of Johnny Law, as far as the feds are concerned. And afaik steroid possession for personal use in UK is legal. So wondering what the status of SARMs is in UK.
Tiocfaidh
Active member
wrong. importing experimental drugs into the US actually is more of a crime. i suggest you brush up on the legal aspect of an american company doing business overseas selling illegal drugs back into the us as supplements.
YoungBodyBuil
Banned
Thank you for crushing my dreams while also teaching me something new. Repped!
criticalbench
Legend
You can run them first cycle.. Imo it's better to start with something that doesn't cause as drastic of a change first. My preference would be to get a solid 1-andro cycle under your belt first.