It would shred you up while still havin the Triumph pull glycogen en mass.
The strength gainz would be better and the Dimeth makew it easier to get agressive for training.
But the stack gave me bad lethargy. I dosed 80/40 max and did have to drop back to 60/30.
Other than I really fear PCT now I love the stack but wish I had some kind of test base in it.
But it really adds mass and strength while still shredding you up.
The lethargy being the only real side effect so far.