renegadeguy
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Anyone tried this compound? What kind of side effects does it carry? I'm concerned about the ol kidneys. Any input would be highly appreciated guys. Thanks
Trest Sides?
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bobi593
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high risk of permanent shutdown and infertility that's two the worst side effects of this steroid plus on top of this all potential sides from murman89 link,
BamBam0319
Well-known member
A large amount of people on this forum have tried it lol... Majority have not had any problems whatsoever staying safe while using, and recovering from it afterwards.
bobi593
Active member
the majority of people on this forum do not do blood work after cycle they say i recovered fine based on this how they feel , do not to mention infertility...
bobi593
Active member
in normal range its a big word if you do not have blood work pre cycle how do you know where was your baseline /starting point ??
ZackD89
Member
I did get bloodwork done before the cycle too. Everything was similar, and in fact my total test was higher after the Trest cycle and PCT.
Further, by "normal range" I meant what is considered healthy by doctors. But yes, my numbers were the same or better after Trest + PCT, and they also were within the scientifically-determined healthy range.
Further, by "normal range" I meant what is considered healthy by doctors. But yes, my numbers were the same or better after Trest + PCT, and they also were within the scientifically-determined healthy range.
bobi593
Active member
lucky you...
NewAgeMayan
Well-known member
I ran LGD and trest last year. Total test went from 800+ pre cycle down to 17 ten weeks later. After clomid PCT, total test got up to over 1000, and eventually settled 4 weeks later to 900sh.
I did multiple bloods during my cycle, and based on them am fairly confident it was the trest and not the lgd that shot my test way down.
bobi593
Active member
was the gains worth it ?
NewAgeMayan
Well-known member
It was a learning experience, thats for sure. Was my first trest cycle. Would do some things very different now. But, will I run trest again? Yes, dermatrest definitely. Have run it once since.
CATdiesel76
Well-known member
I stayed on IM for three months as part of a 1.5 year long cycle and recovered fine with hcg and clomid.
Sides:
BP spikes (only got these first time I ran it)
Body acne
Sweats and smell
Terrible night sweats
Difficulty sleeping
Estrogen sides
Light hair shedding
And it was all worth ir
Sides:
BP spikes (only got these first time I ran it)
Body acne
Sweats and smell
Terrible night sweats
Difficulty sleeping
Estrogen sides
Light hair shedding
And it was all worth ir
renegadeguy
New member
How long was your cycle? I've heard guys going up to 8 weeks.
liftin_fofive
Member
Only side I got was being a beast.... Haha jk and don't believe that whole infertility thing, my best friend just got his girl pregnant during a trest cycle
diamsteelmn
New member
I felt great on CL trestoderm running it with SD. I had a lot of energy, strong libido, felt energized and it made the SD cycle great.
However, it shuts you down hard. You should run an AI with it cause it will add bulk and some water weight. You need a very good PCT. I ran Clomid and nolva plus some natty stuff. It took a long while for my libido to come back to normal. I'm hesitant on using it again. If your married or have a girlfriend, they won't like it once you are off it because of the decline in libido.
I may use it for a test base again or just use the 4andro I have along with dermacrine.
I have proviron and it helps with libido while on cycle.
I've recently had great results with RAD 140, the SARM along with test boosters. I'm not sure I want to do another cycle of SD.
However, it shuts you down hard. You should run an AI with it cause it will add bulk and some water weight. You need a very good PCT. I ran Clomid and nolva plus some natty stuff. It took a long while for my libido to come back to normal. I'm hesitant on using it again. If your married or have a girlfriend, they won't like it once you are off it because of the decline in libido.
I may use it for a test base again or just use the 4andro I have along with dermacrine.
I have proviron and it helps with libido while on cycle.
I've recently had great results with RAD 140, the SARM along with test boosters. I'm not sure I want to do another cycle of SD.
T-Bone
Banned
It can give you a nice set of tots if proper precaution isn't used. Supposedly it can make you infertile but I was never worried about that. A lot of estrogen related side effects.
T-Bone
Banned
No, it shows that you specifically recovered fine from the specific cycle, that's it.
T-Bone
Banned
Yeah was dey?
T-Bone
Banned
All these people getting their girls preggers. However I'm betting the majority of these guys are very young still along with their girlfriends. I'm not knocking trest. I'm the last guy that would do that. It's just that I like to put things into perspective.
yates84
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I'm 32 so not too young. The thing about infertility is it takes up to 3 months on hormones before you are actually shooting blanks so most guys aren't even cycling long enough for these infertility effects to take place. I wasn't expecting to be shooting blanks when I got her pregnant, I was just too dumb to pull out!
bobi593
Active member
can you backup this info ( link please) about it takes up to 3 months on hormones before you are actually shooting blanks...
yates84
Well-known member
Will look for some info on it but definitely not broscience.
T-Bone
Banned
Everything in life is all about timing!
criticalbench
Legend
Trest causes decent nipple swelling. Horrid shutdown, I wouldn't touch it without hcg..
Some will recover fine, but I'd like to see pre post test levels.
Some will recover fine, but I'd like to see pre post test levels.
criticalbench
Legend
Many people blast 1000mg test prop per week + 250iu hcg + 12.5mg aromasin daily for 4 weeks only in an attempt to get their wives pregnant when fertility is failing before going to a fertility doctor and spending a lot of money.
They typically come off cycle, run a very long 6 month pct.. Do this protocol for 4 weeks.. If nothing then physician.
Pretty decent success rate. Their is evidence from what I understand that initial high doses of test boost sperm prior to shutdown.
I just don't no at what point that process is reversed and sperm production decreases.
ZackD89
Member
That's what I was saying, just in other, perhaps less-clear words.
thehogsters
Active member
It shut me down hard and long. The cycle ended mid febuary last year. Did 3 bottles of trest deca with 2 bags of ment. I did clomid and daa for pct. I seemed to recover ok at first but started going down hill in June. By the end of July cialis could not even help me in bed. Had total test checked and it was 37. Checked it agian 3 weeks later and it was 27 with free test at 1. My doctor said he has never seen a test level this low on a 40 year old (castration is 50 and under). The doctor put me on clomid 50mg eod in Aug and Im still on it. I have only managed to get low 400/ high 300 total test. Might ad well just start trt when I go back.
T-Bone
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That's what Trest is known for....Plus the older you are the harder it gets to recover properly. Age has to be taken into account. Like I said before a lot of younger guys will recover fine...That's the majority of this board, guys in there 20's or college age, so just because these young people recover fine doesn't mean everyone will. Plus the more you cycle, each time it's gonna be a little harder to recover. I'm just trying to give a different perspective here and so people don't take Trest so lightly. Don't get me wrong, it's great stuff but it certainly is very strong and not something that should be run for a first or second cycle.
BrianP0523
Banned
you have a pubmed link for this?
bobi593
Active member
no.. in pubmed you can usually find info about studies based on clinical dosage which have nothing to do with dosage for bodybuilding purpose.
Thiefcatcher
Member
Mechanism of Action
Spermatozoa are produced in the testes of males in a process called spermatogenesis. In order to render a man infertile, a hormone-based male contraceptive method must stop spermatogenesis by interrupting the release of gonadotropins from the pituitary gland. Even in low concetrations, trestolone is a potent inhibitor of the release of the gonadotropin hormones, luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH). In order for spermatogenesis to occur in the testes, both FSH and the male hormone testosterone must be present. By inhibiting release of FSH, trestolone creates an endocrine environment in which conditions for spermatogenesis are not ideal. Manufacture of sperm is further impaired by the suppression of LH, which in turn drastically cutails the production of testosterone. Sufficient regular doses of trestolone cause severe oligozoospermia or azoospermia, and therefore infertility, in most male patients.
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https ://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/19582#section=Drug-and-Medication-Information
Spermatozoa are produced in the testes of males in a process called spermatogenesis. In order to render a man infertile, a hormone-based male contraceptive method must stop spermatogenesis by interrupting the release of gonadotropins from the pituitary gland. Even in low concetrations, trestolone is a potent inhibitor of the release of the gonadotropin hormones, luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH). In order for spermatogenesis to occur in the testes, both FSH and the male hormone testosterone must be present. By inhibiting release of FSH, trestolone creates an endocrine environment in which conditions for spermatogenesis are not ideal. Manufacture of sperm is further impaired by the suppression of LH, which in turn drastically cutails the production of testosterone. Sufficient regular doses of trestolone cause severe oligozoospermia or azoospermia, and therefore infertility, in most male patients.
Cant post links yet so, remove the spaces after https
https ://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/19582#section=Drug-and-Medication-Information
Thiefcatcher
Member
"Sufficient regular doses of trestolone cause severe oligozoospermia or azoospermia, and therefore infertility, in most male patients".
People can argue all day as to what a "sufficient" dose is and whether or not it's injections, TD's or oral administration but the bottom line is it can cause infertility in men. I'm on my 3rd cycle with Trest but I knew the risks before I started. I'm 45 and have 2 beautiful girls so i'm ok with that risk at this point. No matter what cycle anyone does, don't put stuff in your body unless you know full well what the possible side effects are whether on cycle or after.
People can argue all day as to what a "sufficient" dose is and whether or not it's injections, TD's or oral administration but the bottom line is it can cause infertility in men. I'm on my 3rd cycle with Trest but I knew the risks before I started. I'm 45 and have 2 beautiful girls so i'm ok with that risk at this point. No matter what cycle anyone does, don't put stuff in your body unless you know full well what the possible side effects are whether on cycle or after.
T-Bone
Banned
Us educated people can tell members that till we are blue in the face, but sadly the majority won't listen.
smith_69
Well-known member
as the case with just about anything-
doesnt matter what warnings are on a pack of cigs- people still smoke
doesnt matter what warnings are on bottles of alcohol - people still drink
doesnt matter if is says not for human consumption- people will consume it
doesnt matter if the law says dont drink and drive- people still do
this list can go on and doesnt apply to just supplements. People will do what they want to do no matter what warning is listed. From a marketing standpoint, this is exactly why the supplement industry will continue to thrive. People want everything right not regardless of the consequences and will sacrifice just about anything to get it. Proven over and over.
BrianP0523
Banned
well, the more shutdown you are the stronger the steroid is, for the most part. i was well aware of all the risks when i started taking steroids. you can take real steroids and get real gains or you can take 4-dhea, 1-dhea, and epiandrosterone and get lousy gains
smith_69
Well-known member
let me rephrase this for you
"you can take harsher or stronger steroids and depending on your diet along with a solid routine increase your overall gains. You can take weaker steroids and receive less effective gains as compared to stronger steroids."
T-Bone
Banned
Expensive forms of DHEA are just a joke though. Safe, but a joke. They are like the Chevy Chevette of anabolics. They will barely get you where you want to go.