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I have one bottle of the OG
Anabeta vs. Aplhamax or...
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I have one bottle of the OG
cubsfan815
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I just sent you PM.
raul87
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Ok let me see if I can find at least 1 more Id like to run the full 8 weeks on the same one wouldn't like to switch to the new one mid cycle. Thanks
MMAMONSTER19
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Thank you for the insight I have received my 2 bottles of alphamax and gonna start them up in about 2 weeks from today good to know that i shouldnt have any problems taking side by side with my acne prescription.
I also use a topical rhetinoid cream to put on black heads and such by presciption but wary if it actually makes that much of a difference. Anyone with mild acne have any recommendations on products or things to help with breakouts? I do consume dairy yes 1 greek yogurt a day and consume whey protein but i have also had acne my whole life no where near as severe as when I was younger but still get some breakouts and would like them to go away. Thoughts or recommendations are really appreciated. :arms:
muscleupcrohn
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While I haven't used Alphamax XT yet, I am familiar with many of the ingredients in it (research and personal experience), and it should also provide some very nice mood elevation and stress/anxiety reduction (as well as the benefits previously mentioned).
Ashwagandha is my favorite ingredient for stress/anxiety reduction, and Alphamax XT contains a full 30mg withanolides per day. Here is the summary of 1 of many studies:
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Tongkat Ali also has some promising research for stress reduction and mood enhancement. Alphamax provides 300mg/day of tongkat Ali standardized for 2% eurycomanone (a higher dose than the 200mg/day of a 0.8-1.5% extract that was shown to significantly improve tension (-11%), anger (-12%), and confusion (-15%), as well as reduce cortisol exposure (-16%) and increase testosterone status (+37%) in moderately stressed subjects.
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Ferulic acid has also been shown to augment post-exercise beta endorphin levels,
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Exercise (and meditation) elevate beta endorphin levels, which are correlated with the positive mood changes noted after exercise and meditation (as well as pain perception during endurance sports).
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Additionally, for what it's worth, Forskolin supplementation has been found to significantly decrease tension-anxiety over time, as well as a trend towards feeling less fatigue relative to placebo.
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Long story short, in addition to the other benefits of Alphamax XT, it can also help reduce stress and anxiety, which can really help us to focus on enjoying life (and, of course, making gains).
MMAMONSTER19
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bump for more insight and help
while running alphamax OG to also add about my acne and my condition and if anyone else can help...
I also use a topical rhetinoid cream to put on black heads and such by presciption but wary if it actually makes that much of a difference. Anyone with mild acne have any recommendations on products or things to help with breakouts? I do consume dairy yes 1 greek yogurt a day and consume whey protein but i have also had acne my whole life no where near as severe as when I was younger but still get some breakouts and would like them to go away. Thoughts or recommendations are really appreciated.
while running alphamax OG to also add about my acne and my condition and if anyone else can help...
I also use a topical rhetinoid cream to put on black heads and such by presciption but wary if it actually makes that much of a difference. Anyone with mild acne have any recommendations on products or things to help with breakouts? I do consume dairy yes 1 greek yogurt a day and consume whey protein but i have also had acne my whole life no where near as severe as when I was younger but still get some breakouts and would like them to go away. Thoughts or recommendations are really appreciated.
john.patterson
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I'm a little confused about the wording of your question. Are you currently taking Alphamax and getting acne? Or are you asking if Alphamax will interfere with your acne condition?
MMAMONSTER19
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I will begin using alphamax in 2-3 weeks when i start my cut/recomp cycle and am just worried about it interfereing with my acne such as making it worse and because I am prescribed to an oral acne pill called acticlate, just only concerned on the interactions between the two, and if theres any more insight on helping clear out acne to have clearer skin is much appreciated.
john.patterson
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Everyone will respond differently to products. There's nothing in Alphamax that should cause an increase in acne, and I personally never had any issues with increased acne while using Alphamax. I can look into your acne medication and see if there are any potential interactions, but I can't foresee there being any issues with it.
Some people get increased acne when test levels are increased while others have no issues with it. From my personal use with Alphamax this was never an issue, but hopefully others can chime in if they experienced any problems with increased acne
MMAMONSTER19
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Thank you much appreciated!
john.patterson
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Google is a powerful tool. Doesn't appear that there would be any issues or interactions with Alphamax and Acticlate, but since it is a prescription I would recommend double checking with your doctor to be certain
MMAMONSTER19
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Thank you very much for your help!
MMAMONSTER19
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Is it best to go by the recommended dosing 2 in the morning then 2 in the evening atleast 6-8 hours apart? Or how should I dose it on workout days and non workout days if you all think I shouldn't go by recommended dosing...???
Quads_of_Stee
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for Alphamax you can follow the directions on the bottle or do 2upon waking and 2before bed. i prefer the waking/bed dosing scheme because the F95 and coffee together help my mornings "go smoothly". Then I prefer pre-bed dosing of alphamax because the ZMA and L-dopa help me fall asleep faster.
john.patterson
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I would keep dosing the same on workout and rest days, consistency is the key with dosing Alphamax. As Quads said, I really enjoy taking my night time dose close to bed time. I find that it helps me relax and get a great night sleep. I train first think in the morning, so I typically take my first 2 caps with my post workout meal. Also, depending on your sensitivity to forskolin, I would suggest taking both doses with a meal. Forskolin causes GI distress with some users, so its always wise to take Alphamax with a meal to prevent an issues.
MMAMONSTER19
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Perfect information thank you both very much. Today is my first day so I took first dose empty stomach and ate 20 mins later had no problems and will take 2nd dose bout an hour before bed with meal thank you hoping my run with it goes smooth. I'm also taking 7 day osteo sport due to me having joint issues with knees elbows and shoulders. So hopefully it fixes it. Any possible recommendations on joint support anyone like out there?
AntM1564
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Fish Oil and Genoflex or Flexitirl (I think it is called, it is a new Scivation product)
Driven2lift
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^This,
GenoFlex has been a godsend to a good number of AM guys now, review compilation here:
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If you add fish oil, Controlled Labs offers one I have used for years:
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Quads_of_Stee
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the newest scivation joint support flexatril. Definitely the best one I have used and beat animal flex by a wide margin. Have not tried genoflex yet
JellyJesus
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Mesomorph no question..
JMark
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Pre jym gave me diarrhea every time I took it. Mesomorph is probably one of the best pre workout ever.
MMAMONSTER19
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I am currently on my second week with Aplhmax havent had any problems. Does is 2 caps in the morning around 10AM, 2nd dose in the evening about an hour before bed.
The main thing i notice so far is the deep sleep, I still have kinda a hard time falling asleep but when you go to sleep you are in a deep sleep. Been having a hard time waking up acutally I usually have the alarm go off wake up jump out of bed lil groggy but bounce back. Now I hit the snooze for a sold 15-20 mins and getting up is difficult.
Havent noticed much of any fat loss I am still continuing to lose about a pound a week but was doing that before I started alphmax.
Therefore my question is I want to also throw in a fat burner not quite sure which one yet I have used Lipo6 before may go with that again or try something new. But mainly wanna throw one in to help speed up with the process was thinking around week 4 or 5 I would start implementing a fat burner.
Any thoughts or comments on this idea? or anyone else include a fat burner?
The main thing i notice so far is the deep sleep, I still have kinda a hard time falling asleep but when you go to sleep you are in a deep sleep. Been having a hard time waking up acutally I usually have the alarm go off wake up jump out of bed lil groggy but bounce back. Now I hit the snooze for a sold 15-20 mins and getting up is difficult.
Havent noticed much of any fat loss I am still continuing to lose about a pound a week but was doing that before I started alphmax.
Therefore my question is I want to also throw in a fat burner not quite sure which one yet I have used Lipo6 before may go with that again or try something new. But mainly wanna throw one in to help speed up with the process was thinking around week 4 or 5 I would start implementing a fat burner.
Any thoughts or comments on this idea? or anyone else include a fat burner?
john.patterson
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Glad to hear things are going well with your Alphamax cycle. I really enjoy the deep sleep that I get with it too, and I notice the improved sleep speeds my recovery which is nice.
Are you looking for anything in particular with a fat burner? For example - appetite suppression, energy, mood, focus? If you want to add in a fat burner with Alphamax, I would suggest either the EC stack or Oxymax XT. EC is the favorite on this site for energy and increased rate of fat loss, but I would also recommend taking a look at Oxymax XT. It has great synergy with Alphamax, and the extra forskolin from Oxymax would be a compliment and benefit to your Alphamax run.
Oxymax XT also contains Eria Jarensis extract, which really helps with improved mood, focus, and energy. I think stacking this with Alphamax would give you some great results.
Quads_of_Stee
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All of the performax line compliments each other very very nicely. As john mentioned oxymax contains F95 and stacking it with alphamax will give you more than enough F95. The Eria Jarensis will definitely help and it perks me up in the morning when I am cutting and take oxymax.
If you are looking for something that is non-stim for fat burners then I would look into products such as:
BRITE - evomuse : this had me sweating and definitely kept up an increased temp
Lipomorph - Anteus Labs : have not used this but only read good things
BAIBA - an interesting compound that shows some good data for fat loss
MMAMONSTER19
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I prefer stimulants since im usually tired and groggy in the mornings and take me like 30-60 minutes to really get up and feel alive. I have used thermogenics before not the biggest fan since i already run hot, being hotter and possibly sweaty isnt something i really wanna have going on. Not too picky of a fat burner for food suppression or anything like that doesnt realyl matter. Ive used ones like cellucor super HD, lipo 6 all of them for examples.
john.patterson
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Although the stimulants may cause you to run a bit hotter, the energy and focus from Oxymax XT would be great if you're typically tired in the morning. The Eria Jarnesis really allows me to focus during my workouts, and in the office at work. I think the synergy between Alphamax XT and Oxymax XT would make a great stack. It also includes amentoflavone which can help with stress levels and increase cAMP levels to ramp up fat loss
DNkG
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Funny?!? Prejym is one of my favourites. I've tried both and pretty much all pre-workouts
I'm currently using Prejym and ol conqu3r and really enjoy both!!MMAMONSTER19
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Good to know thanks for the info, I will have to check it out and read up on it.
john.patterson
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You're welcome. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I think Oxymax XT has a great balance of stimulants so you're not off the walls all day. I've used some products that had me shaking and jittering at my desk during work which is awful haha. The focus and clean energy is really what stands out above the rest with Oxymax
MMAMONSTER19
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I decided to not get a fat burner yet. The first 2 weeks i didnt really notice any changes in my physique 3rd week started to become more noticeable and now I think im in the beginning of week 4 and cant believe how great this product is working I am so far pleasantly surprised.
Some facts
Sleep is still deep and good sometimes a lil hard to get up and a lil groggy first thing
Thankfully acne has stayed under control while taking acticlate as well just get the occasional random zit as i did before alphamax so that is really shining for me!!! super happy
libido well its unreal not to give like too much detail but I already have an extremely high sex drive and would always get random boners like once or 2 times a day but now I get em alot more every day so just a heads up to any future users
have continued slimming down at a steady progress.
I am pleased with my results so far and pumped to see what happens in the next 4-5 weeks of being on alphamax!
Question I dont drink alcohol very often but is there anything to be concerned with drinking while on alphamax??
Some facts
Sleep is still deep and good sometimes a lil hard to get up and a lil groggy first thing
Thankfully acne has stayed under control while taking acticlate as well just get the occasional random zit as i did before alphamax so that is really shining for me!!! super happy
libido well its unreal not to give like too much detail but I already have an extremely high sex drive and would always get random boners like once or 2 times a day but now I get em alot more every day so just a heads up to any future users
have continued slimming down at a steady progress.
I am pleased with my results so far and pumped to see what happens in the next 4-5 weeks of being on alphamax!
Question I dont drink alcohol very often but is there anything to be concerned with drinking while on alphamax??
john.patterson
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Awesome update man! It sounds like Alphamax is really working well for you. I laughed at your comments on libido haha, I experience the same libido boost when I'm using Alphamax as well. Also glad to hear your recovery is good and acne hasn't been an issue.
There shouldn't be any issues with alcohol and Alphamax. I would try to dose it away from times you'll be drinking if possible, but as long as its in moderation it shouldn't be an issue.
From your update, it sounds like holding off on a fat burner was a good idea. Many users report a leaner physique with increased vascularity, so using an additional fat burner isn't always better. I really find Alphamax to kick in fully during the 3rd and 4th week of an 8 week run, so the next few weeks should be great! Keep up the good work bro
MMAMONSTER19
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Yes currently on 4th week or mid 4th week. 3rd and 4th week so far have been the highlight of this product im stoked to see what happens over the next 4 weeks, yes libido is way up but not complaining still not hvaing acne problems really happy even with me taking acticlate (oral acne pill) having no issues loving this product I wish i wouldve bought an extra 2 bottles to run it again a few months after im done with this 8 week run, but good to know there s a new Alphamax in town and Im looking forward to possibly testing it out!
cubsfan815
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Awesome update.
Can't wait to hear what you think of AlphaMax XT when you get to try it.
john.patterson
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I prefer to take as many weeks off as a break between as I was running Alphamax XT for. So if I ran 1 bottle (4 weeks), I'd take a 4 week break. 2 bottles I would do an 8 week break. A 4 week break is the minimum recommended between cycles though.
john.patterson
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Awesome news man. Both the OG Alphamax and Alphamax XT start to really kick in around the 3rd and 4th week, so you should really be enjoying the rest of the run! Keep your eyes out for sales on Alphamax XT, there have been a lot of sales going on recently. You'd be able to get a great deal on two bottles if you're patient.
MMAMONSTER19
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Im using the OG alphamax 8 weeks on 8 weeks off most likely the same for XT
AntM1564
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If you're enjoying the OG, I cannot wait for you to try XT. I love the OG, but XT is a much better formula.
MMAMONSTER19
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Hey everyone just to throw an update out there. Progress is still going well figure i got about 2 1/2 weeks left maybe less which is extremely bumming... First off I love this stuff! If i could take it year round I totally would!
First I wanted to add I have been taking clen with my alphamax threw it in about 1-2 weeks ago has made a difrerence ive been low dosing it and seems to help give just that little edge so its perfect with shed some weight.
I wanted to know if there is anything I can begin using after my cycle of alphamax is completed? My plan is to either take the alphamax og or bump up and try a simple beginner SARM ive been reading about them and think they are the next step up for me. Any thoughts or recommendations on any product i can take after my run with alphamax and thoughts on a SARM or alphamax xt in about 2 months from now unless i can begin sooner...?
To add SARM or any supplement that is safe with few to none side effects keep in mind please and thank you.
First I wanted to add I have been taking clen with my alphamax threw it in about 1-2 weeks ago has made a difrerence ive been low dosing it and seems to help give just that little edge so its perfect with shed some weight.
I wanted to know if there is anything I can begin using after my cycle of alphamax is completed? My plan is to either take the alphamax og or bump up and try a simple beginner SARM ive been reading about them and think they are the next step up for me. Any thoughts or recommendations on any product i can take after my run with alphamax and thoughts on a SARM or alphamax xt in about 2 months from now unless i can begin sooner...?
To add SARM or any supplement that is safe with few to none side effects keep in mind please and thank you.
Quads_of_Stee
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Saying SARMS are safe is kind of not accurate. SARMS do suppress and reduce natural testosterone and should be treated carefully with a pct afterwards. Data is very new and there are unknown long-term effects!
MMAMONSTER19
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Thank You didn't mean safe, but after reading about them went off being safer than like real gear. Thanks for the heads up tho.
MMAMONSTER19
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Could I run slinmax immediately after alphamax? Or do i need some amount of time off in between alphamax and the next product I use?
MMAMONSTER19
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Thank you for letting me know. Also are there any other products or different products besides slinmax that could be recommended as well??
Also do you think it is necessary to take an 8 week break or is 4 weeks sufficient enough after im done running alphamax?
AntM1564
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A four week break is fine.
As far as other supplements, are you looking for other GDA supplements or just asking in general? In general, I would have a pre workout on hand for those days where you need a little kick. I would also get a creatine product like Ergonine or CreMax XT. From both products, you get your daily dose of creatine alongside other erogengic products that work with one another. CreMax XT contains a full serving of Betanine with increases performance, recovering and even body composition.
For other types of anabolics, PA is good, but I have never used it.
I do like ArA. In fact, my favorite stack is ArA (at 1.5 grams) and AlphaMax. I have ran that stack twice and at a small caloric surplus, saw a positive effect in body composition and strength went up more than just using AlphaMax alone.
(-)Epi and laxogenin are also good products to run. Laxo needs to be ran at a pretty high dose, in my experience, to reap the benefits.
MMAMONSTER19
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All that sounds good. I am interested in anything i can take either as soon as i finish alphamx og like the day after, or if i have to wait 4 weeks then Ill probably look for something more like alphamax xt stacked with ara or some other natty anabolic maybe follidrone, etc. Have also been looking into SARM's. So i am open to stepping up from natty anabolics. Im loving alphamax and now just dont wanna stop it so looking for anything i can take in between runs of natty products. I am still cutting i am 11 pounds away from my goal of 180 so that is the main goal still. So anything i can take to keep helping my progress is what i am open to.
staples
whey and casein protein
creatine hcl
taurine
glutamine
multivitamin/joint support
pre-workout of choice
bcaa of choice
hopefully this helps describe what i am interested in.
AntM1564
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I cannot suggest SARMS or any type of PH. If you go to the anabolics section, maybe you can get some more support there. As far as natty products to run between AlphaMax runs, look into PA or ArA. Both are fantastic solo. ArA is probably one of my favorite ingredients.
Also, if you do decide to go the SARM route, do not be disappointed with your natural anabolic runs afterwards. They will not compare to a SARM or PH.
MMAMONSTER19
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That totally understandable, I would like to stay away from anything anabolic but I looked thru just to get an idea ya its awesome the results you get in a shorter amount of time but the side effects are my biggest concern, therefore going to stay natty.
Question now to make sure I am understanding and sorry if i am repeating myself. When i finish my alphamax run in the next 2 weeks here I can immediately begin next day slin max i was looking into, can i also run ara?
I am trying to figure out the next months so next 2 weeks alphamax. then 4 weeks slinmax, then 8 weeks alphamax xt or a different natty product maybe follidrone, to help continue to lose bodyfat as well as gain mass/maintain mass. hopefully that makes sense if anyone has suggestions on how to plan it out with whatever natty supps i should look into or stacks id really appreciate all your help very much. :cheers: