Woody
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I've tried 5 Chaos and Pain products and they've all tasted great and worked great. What Helios flavor did you have
At the dentist now. Will update when I get home.
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I've tried 5 Chaos and Pain products and they've all tasted great and worked great. What Helios flavor did you have
At the dentist now. Will update when I get home.
mattierocks
Veteran member
I had the Raspberry Lemonade (Rawberry Venomade?). I thought Helios was interesting because it was a powder and all the other similar products I used were capsules.
Woody
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3/9-3/11 were flood days.
3/12 was legs. I generally don't track my leg workouts anymore unless something happens. I do 10-15 sets of squats and a little accessory work if I'm up to it. I stayed low weight and low reps. Did 12x135x5 and held each rep for three seconds. Ended with seated calves and standing calves.
3/13 I did arms. I noted the pump was good and endurance was up. Rest was between 5-10 seconds.
Arnold Press
42.5x10; 42.5x10; 42.5x8; 35x10; 35x10
OHP - Haven't OHP in a while due to shoulder which flared up again.
45x15; 95x10; 115x5; 115x5; 95x10
Front Barbell Raises:
45x12; 45x8; 45x10
Shrugs:
6x135x12
Rear Delt Flies
5xBurnouts
Concentration Curls (Slooooooow)
25x10; 25x12; 25x12
Spider Curls
50x10; 50x15; 50x12; 50x15
Squatting Cable Curls (This was a bad idea after Leg Day)
90x12; 90x8; 90x8; 90x8/70x8/50x10/30x30 drop set
DB Overhead Tricep Extension
52.5x6; 52.5x10; 52.5x10
Underhand Tricep Pulldown: 90x12; 100x12; 100x8; 90x10/70x8/50x12 drop set
Iso Rope:
40x12; 50x12; 50x12; 50x10
3/14 - Back/Chest
Bench:
95x12; 135x10; 135x10; 155x8; 155x8; 175x5; 175x5
Superset Bent Over Rows
7x135x8
Incline DB:
60x8; 65x5; 65x5; 70x2
Superset DB Rows
4x70x10 (last set was 9.5, tbh)
Incline Flies:
30x10; 30x10; 30x10; 30x8
Superset Lat Pull Down
100x10; 115x10; 115x10; 130x9
Reverse Grip Bench
4x115x8
Superset HS Pull Down
4x90x10
Intensity was through the roof. Almost no rest at all. Heart rate stayed pretty high. Sweat was pouring. Felt like I was in a sauna. I don't think i'm responding to the Laxo, but definitely to the Epi.
3/15 was an off-day. Had an assignment due.
3/16: Legs - 12 sets of squats. Nothing big here. Just started squatting again since my surgery a few years back. I did, however, incorporate deadlifts for the first time ever. Started with 3 sets of 135x15 in the little cagey thing and then did 4 sets of 135x10. No back pain the next few days, or even as of this writing. Not a lot of weight, but I've always been worried my back would fall apart so its good that didn't happen. Ended with calves, as my legs were pretty beat.
3/17: Chest/Tris
Bench:
135x10; 135x12; 155x8; 155x5; 175x3; 175x1; 175x2; 155x8
Incline DB
60x8; 65x8; 65x5; 55x15
Incline Flies
35x8; 35x10; 35x10; 35x10
Reverse Grip Bench
95x8; 115x7; 115x6
Close Grip Bench
95x8; 115x5; 115x10
Overhead Plate
4x45x15
Iso Rope
30x10; 40x12; 50x8; 50x12; 40x16
Underhand Pushdown
80x12; 90x10; 100x10; 90x9/70x10/50x15 drop set
Dips/Bosu Push up Superset: 4x15/12
Ended with a little superset that I enjoyed. Not a huge increase in strength, but reps are up and/or consistent with less rest, so strength is coming. Legendary definitely allows me to up my intensity. I do feel like my shoulder held me back, here though. Anything above 175 and my left shoulder started to get a little shakey. I rarely have a spotter so I played it safe.
3/18: Back/Bis
Bent Over Rows
95x12; 115x12; 135x10; 155x3 (back started to hurt); 135x15
T-Bar Rows
50x10; 75x10; 100x10; 100x10
HS Lat Pull
70x10; 90x10; 90x10; 100x10
DB Rows
60x15; 70x15; 75x10; 75x4 (Grip Failed -.-)
Rope Lat:
5x100xburnouts
Concentration Curls:
30x10; 30x8; 30x8
Spider Curls:
55x10; 55x15; 55x15; 60x8
Hammer Curls:
35x10; 35x10; 35x10
Barbell Curls
4xBurnouts
3/19 Shoulders
I had been neglecting shoulders because they had been bothering me. Today was a bit of a wasted day. Shoulder killed me halfway through and I couldn't finish my workout.
3/20: Legs
Did 6 sets of a slow 185x15.
HS Hamstring Curl
70x15; 70x15; 90x12
Leg Press:
180x13; 270x15; 270x15; 360x10; 360x8
Single-leg Leg Press Calf
90x15; 90x15; 90x25
Seated Calf (Slow, Long Stretch)
135x8; 135x10; 135x15; 135x15; 135x20
3/20 was a beer day. Last day of spring break. Hah
Today I did Chest and Triceps. Shoulder is still kinda a pain. Debating between joint supplements now and hoping to have that fixed. Time off helps, but who knows. I'm basically made of glass, I've come to realize.
So far, I think my shoulder has held me back. I don't think I respond to Laxo, but the Epi in Legendary is on par with my experience with other Epi's. Endurance, Intensity, and sweating is up. My rest is down. Strength is up, but probably not as much as it could be if my shoulder wasn't stupid. I for sure think this is something that needs to be ran at a bit of higher doses and for a longer period of time, but thats sort of the usual with Epi. No one runs it for 4 weeks because thats when it starts to get good. Three to four pills was a sweet spot for me and the longer I ran it the better it got. Chaos and Pain doesn't disappoint. Also, I haven't mentioned it much lately - but my protein brownie is still a failure. I quit trying because I wasting that delicious chocolate goodness. I did use Driven2lift protein ice cream recipe and that was delicious.
Tomorrow is my final dosage and it coincides with my favorite day - Back and Bi's. I'll be sure to hit it extra hard to end things with a bang.
3/12 was legs. I generally don't track my leg workouts anymore unless something happens. I do 10-15 sets of squats and a little accessory work if I'm up to it. I stayed low weight and low reps. Did 12x135x5 and held each rep for three seconds. Ended with seated calves and standing calves.
3/13 I did arms. I noted the pump was good and endurance was up. Rest was between 5-10 seconds.
Arnold Press
42.5x10; 42.5x10; 42.5x8; 35x10; 35x10
OHP - Haven't OHP in a while due to shoulder which flared up again.
45x15; 95x10; 115x5; 115x5; 95x10
Front Barbell Raises:
45x12; 45x8; 45x10
Shrugs:
6x135x12
Rear Delt Flies
5xBurnouts
Concentration Curls (Slooooooow)
25x10; 25x12; 25x12
Spider Curls
50x10; 50x15; 50x12; 50x15
Squatting Cable Curls (This was a bad idea after Leg Day)
90x12; 90x8; 90x8; 90x8/70x8/50x10/30x30 drop set
DB Overhead Tricep Extension
52.5x6; 52.5x10; 52.5x10
Underhand Tricep Pulldown: 90x12; 100x12; 100x8; 90x10/70x8/50x12 drop set
Iso Rope:
40x12; 50x12; 50x12; 50x10
3/14 - Back/Chest
Bench:
95x12; 135x10; 135x10; 155x8; 155x8; 175x5; 175x5
Superset Bent Over Rows
7x135x8
Incline DB:
60x8; 65x5; 65x5; 70x2
Superset DB Rows
4x70x10 (last set was 9.5, tbh)
Incline Flies:
30x10; 30x10; 30x10; 30x8
Superset Lat Pull Down
100x10; 115x10; 115x10; 130x9
Reverse Grip Bench
4x115x8
Superset HS Pull Down
4x90x10
Intensity was through the roof. Almost no rest at all. Heart rate stayed pretty high. Sweat was pouring. Felt like I was in a sauna. I don't think i'm responding to the Laxo, but definitely to the Epi.
3/15 was an off-day. Had an assignment due.
3/16: Legs - 12 sets of squats. Nothing big here. Just started squatting again since my surgery a few years back. I did, however, incorporate deadlifts for the first time ever. Started with 3 sets of 135x15 in the little cagey thing and then did 4 sets of 135x10. No back pain the next few days, or even as of this writing. Not a lot of weight, but I've always been worried my back would fall apart so its good that didn't happen. Ended with calves, as my legs were pretty beat.
3/17: Chest/Tris
Bench:
135x10; 135x12; 155x8; 155x5; 175x3; 175x1; 175x2; 155x8
Incline DB
60x8; 65x8; 65x5; 55x15
Incline Flies
35x8; 35x10; 35x10; 35x10
Reverse Grip Bench
95x8; 115x7; 115x6
Close Grip Bench
95x8; 115x5; 115x10
Overhead Plate
4x45x15
Iso Rope
30x10; 40x12; 50x8; 50x12; 40x16
Underhand Pushdown
80x12; 90x10; 100x10; 90x9/70x10/50x15 drop set
Dips/Bosu Push up Superset: 4x15/12
Ended with a little superset that I enjoyed. Not a huge increase in strength, but reps are up and/or consistent with less rest, so strength is coming. Legendary definitely allows me to up my intensity. I do feel like my shoulder held me back, here though. Anything above 175 and my left shoulder started to get a little shakey. I rarely have a spotter so I played it safe.
3/18: Back/Bis
Bent Over Rows
95x12; 115x12; 135x10; 155x3 (back started to hurt); 135x15
T-Bar Rows
50x10; 75x10; 100x10; 100x10
HS Lat Pull
70x10; 90x10; 90x10; 100x10
DB Rows
60x15; 70x15; 75x10; 75x4 (Grip Failed -.-)
Rope Lat:
5x100xburnouts
Concentration Curls:
30x10; 30x8; 30x8
Spider Curls:
55x10; 55x15; 55x15; 60x8
Hammer Curls:
35x10; 35x10; 35x10
Barbell Curls
4xBurnouts
3/19 Shoulders
I had been neglecting shoulders because they had been bothering me. Today was a bit of a wasted day. Shoulder killed me halfway through and I couldn't finish my workout.
3/20: Legs
Did 6 sets of a slow 185x15.
HS Hamstring Curl
70x15; 70x15; 90x12
Leg Press:
180x13; 270x15; 270x15; 360x10; 360x8
Single-leg Leg Press Calf
90x15; 90x15; 90x25
Seated Calf (Slow, Long Stretch)
135x8; 135x10; 135x15; 135x15; 135x20
3/20 was a beer day. Last day of spring break. Hah
Today I did Chest and Triceps. Shoulder is still kinda a pain. Debating between joint supplements now and hoping to have that fixed. Time off helps, but who knows. I'm basically made of glass, I've come to realize.
So far, I think my shoulder has held me back. I don't think I respond to Laxo, but the Epi in Legendary is on par with my experience with other Epi's. Endurance, Intensity, and sweating is up. My rest is down. Strength is up, but probably not as much as it could be if my shoulder wasn't stupid. I for sure think this is something that needs to be ran at a bit of higher doses and for a longer period of time, but thats sort of the usual with Epi. No one runs it for 4 weeks because thats when it starts to get good. Three to four pills was a sweet spot for me and the longer I ran it the better it got. Chaos and Pain doesn't disappoint. Also, I haven't mentioned it much lately - but my protein brownie is still a failure. I quit trying because I wasting that delicious chocolate goodness. I did use Driven2lift protein ice cream recipe and that was delicious.
Tomorrow is my final dosage and it coincides with my favorite day - Back and Bi's. I'll be sure to hit it extra hard to end things with a bang.
Woody
Well-known member
Today was my last day, not yesterday.
Yesterday I did bis and back.
BOR: 45x15; 95x12; 135x6; 135x6; 155x4
Shrugs: 135x12; 155x12; 185x12; 205x8; 205x6
DB Row: 65x8; 65x8; 70x8
Close/Wide Seated Row: 100x10/100x8; 100x10/100x8
Close Grip Lat Pull: 100x10; 115x10; 130x8
Wide Grip Lat Pull: 115x10; 115x8; 130x8
Concentration Curls: 27.5x10; 27.5x10; 30x8; 30x
Hammer Curls: 30x12; 30x12; 30x12; 30x10
Spider Curls: 55x10; 55x15; 65x10; 65x12
Barbell Curls: 45x10; 55x7; 55x7
4x Ab Coaster/Chin-Up/Oblique Crunch/Pull-Up burnout circuit
155x4 is a PR, kinda because I've never gone above 135. Was pretty sore today so may have over done it.
Just finished shoulders. So I'll have that up shortly.
Yesterday I did bis and back.
BOR: 45x15; 95x12; 135x6; 135x6; 155x4
Shrugs: 135x12; 155x12; 185x12; 205x8; 205x6
DB Row: 65x8; 65x8; 70x8
Close/Wide Seated Row: 100x10/100x8; 100x10/100x8
Close Grip Lat Pull: 100x10; 115x10; 130x8
Wide Grip Lat Pull: 115x10; 115x8; 130x8
Concentration Curls: 27.5x10; 27.5x10; 30x8; 30x
Hammer Curls: 30x12; 30x12; 30x12; 30x10
Spider Curls: 55x10; 55x15; 65x10; 65x12
Barbell Curls: 45x10; 55x7; 55x7
4x Ab Coaster/Chin-Up/Oblique Crunch/Pull-Up burnout circuit
155x4 is a PR, kinda because I've never gone above 135. Was pretty sore today so may have over done it.
Just finished shoulders. So I'll have that up shortly.
Woody
Well-known member
today I did shoulders. My shoulders have been achy and giving me trouble lately but I pushed through it
Seated Press
95x12; 115x6; 115x10
Strict OHP
95x10; 115x6; 115x6/95x5
Rear Delt Flies/Arnold Press
100x10/30x10; 115x7/30x10; 115x8/30x10; 115x8
Front Barbell Raise
45x6; 45x6; 45x3
Upright Barbell Row
95x5; 95x6; 95x6
Machine Side Raises
50x12; 50x12; 50x12/30x10
Face Pulls
70x15; 90x12; 100x10
Shrugs
135x12; 155x10; 155x10; 175x8; 175x8; 135x12
Ended with an ab/push-up circuit. Couldn't think of anything besides push-ups that hit shoulders with body weight.
4x 30 second Plank/15x Bosu Push-Up/20x 45 LB Plated Oblique Crunches (per side)/15x Bosu Push-Up/ 25 Hanging Leg Raises/15x Bosu Push-Up
I finished the second bottle of legendary today. I can say, the pumps were great. I leaned out a little. My intensity, recovery, and endurance was through the roof.
Unfortunately, my shoulders and my surgery held me back. It appears I'm a non responder to Lax, but the Epi is top notch. It is entirely possible, however, that the Lax kept my shoulders pain free for as long as possible. They only started to hurt recently and I don't have much experience with Lax.
Definitely a product that would be good to run for 8+ weeks. 3-4 caps was my sweet spot.
I'll give legendary a 4/5.
I'll give the protein a 5/5. Definitely a delicious chocolate. The blend isn't too thick either. In 8 oz of milk it isn't a sludge. It's a thicker shake and absolutely delicious.
Thanks to Chaos and Pain and pyrobatt for letting me log this. I'm glad I got to experience two great products!
Seated Press
95x12; 115x6; 115x10
Strict OHP
95x10; 115x6; 115x6/95x5
Rear Delt Flies/Arnold Press
100x10/30x10; 115x7/30x10; 115x8/30x10; 115x8
Front Barbell Raise
45x6; 45x6; 45x3
Upright Barbell Row
95x5; 95x6; 95x6
Machine Side Raises
50x12; 50x12; 50x12/30x10
Face Pulls
70x15; 90x12; 100x10
Shrugs
135x12; 155x10; 155x10; 175x8; 175x8; 135x12
Ended with an ab/push-up circuit. Couldn't think of anything besides push-ups that hit shoulders with body weight.
4x 30 second Plank/15x Bosu Push-Up/20x 45 LB Plated Oblique Crunches (per side)/15x Bosu Push-Up/ 25 Hanging Leg Raises/15x Bosu Push-Up
I finished the second bottle of legendary today. I can say, the pumps were great. I leaned out a little. My intensity, recovery, and endurance was through the roof.
Unfortunately, my shoulders and my surgery held me back. It appears I'm a non responder to Lax, but the Epi is top notch. It is entirely possible, however, that the Lax kept my shoulders pain free for as long as possible. They only started to hurt recently and I don't have much experience with Lax.
Definitely a product that would be good to run for 8+ weeks. 3-4 caps was my sweet spot.
I'll give legendary a 4/5.
I'll give the protein a 5/5. Definitely a delicious chocolate. The blend isn't too thick either. In 8 oz of milk it isn't a sludge. It's a thicker shake and absolutely delicious.
Thanks to Chaos and Pain and pyrobatt for letting me log this. I'm glad I got to experience two great products!