smith_69
Well-known member
see you let things bring you down. why even bother wasting time and energy on it?
next time you feel grumpy, do something good for someone or say hello to someone you don't know- it works
How do you know if you have good genetics?
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see you let things bring you down. why even bother wasting time and energy on it?
next time you feel grumpy, do something good for someone or say hello to someone you don't know- it works
BlockBuilder
Well-known member
Genetics talk is so overplayed I'm sick of it. It's just an excuse for guys who use steroids and get jacked to continue claiming natty. Specifically the pros, etc. look at Jay Cutler as a teen. Skinny weak little kid lol
LovingtoLift
Banned
Honestly this happens in all forms of professional levels. Same thing goes for guys who want a recording deal with a record label in music.
I honestly don't know how the **** they basically become gay for pay but hey whatever.
rockko
New member
I can agree with this to an extent. I hate it when ppl come up with excuses for things as to why they are not the best. Its an insecurity issue. But not all of us do have that potential to be the best because of "genetics"
I mean there are Olympic athletes that train for particular sports just as hard if not harder than the rest. But Phelps had those long arms which made his strokes carry him further than of he had short ones.
And sure Jay was a skinny teen. Most teens are. I don't member many kids from high school being very jacked. But u can take 12 different ppl and fees them the same diet, same training routine and put them on the same substances and I bet if u Give them a year they won't be exactly as fast or strong as the other 11. There will be variations. And that's where genetics come into play.
But yes. I don't like when a guy at the gym says I only bench more than him because of reasons whatever the heck. B***h! Do more bench and less excuses! Lol
rockko
New member
that depends on your goals. If you power lift its about 33% of how your strength is measured. If you Sprint it's zero. It was an example though bro. But yes for some dudes its all they care about
LovingtoLift
Banned
Suck that ****!!! Speedo phaggots.
rockko
New member
Lmao
anabolix
Member
Genetics play a HUGE part. Aside from what science has shown, I can say this from personal experience as well. If you guys haven't read the article on flex wheelers dna testing, and how low levels of myostatin and certain genes effect muscle growth, then it's worth a read. Some guys who were thin as kids have these genes and just explode when they start working out, other guys do everything right and struggle to put on only a couple pounds of muscle.
polarcat
Member
I'll have to read that article but honestly I think "genetics" are either used as a cop out or a cover up. I've mostly known only lazy people or hard workers. I'm 22, started lifting at 14 at schools and gyms and I know I don't have a lifetime of experience but I can count on one hand the number of people that I honestly think just have superb genetics. I think truly genetic freaks are extremely rare.
toddmuelheim
Well-known member
Saying genetic freaks are extremely rare is one thing, but dismissing genetics as a cop out or cover up may be a little short sighted.
polarcat
Member
Idk man, how do you gauge that though? It's definitely controversial and a tough topic. I just personally don't believe in the whole genetics thing. I know I didn't come out of the womb looking like I do now but I don't blame genetics when I see another 22 year old or 20 year old that looks better than I do. Who knows man, it's all speculation.
toddmuelheim
Well-known member
I get what you're saying, but it is not speculation. I def understand what you're saying regarding people using it as a crutch, but there are a million different attributes that people are just born with that differentiate them. Muscle fiber type, lever length, hormonal levels, the list goes on forever.
polarcat
Member
I see where you're coming from too, and I am a little narrow minded. You're right tho, there's like a million factors that go into how well or quick somebody builds muscle. Which also gets into what type of training/nutrition works best for the individual, I think some people just figure it out quicker. Way too much for me to understand ha.
toddmuelheim
Well-known member
Hahaha right on...it's annoying as fk when people use them as excuses though. Gotta play the hand you were dealt
anabolix
Member
Wait another 20 years until you are 42, then you might see what I'm talking about
. It is about work, but some people's work pays MUCH bigger dividends than others. Science agrees with this also. I've had friends built naturally like a competitive bodybuilder, yet never even worked out. I've watched a buddy with great genes put on nearly 30 lbs of muscle in under 2 months(with zero supplements)...and yet another buddy who had his diet and training ridiculously diled in and yet he continually struggled to put on any amount of muscle at all. Genes are HUGE!
datsthat
Well-known member
I am not sure if I asked this question yet or not and I am too lazy to re-read this thread....
Would you say that your natural testosterone level is an indicator if you have good genetics? I am not sure if this is even posible, but lets say a dude in his early 20's has natty test level of over 2000 (off top of my head, normal range 345-1197)....would he be considered good genetics because same person with normal natty test level lets say 900 would not be able to put on nearly as much muscle if they both did the exact same training and diet.
Or what if a person has a bad ass jump shot, able to shoot 80% 3 pointers in division 1 college, but isn't muscular. Would that person be considered good genetics?
Would you say that your natural testosterone level is an indicator if you have good genetics? I am not sure if this is even posible, but lets say a dude in his early 20's has natty test level of over 2000 (off top of my head, normal range 345-1197)....would he be considered good genetics because same person with normal natty test level lets say 900 would not be able to put on nearly as much muscle if they both did the exact same training and diet.
Or what if a person has a bad ass jump shot, able to shoot 80% 3 pointers in division 1 college, but isn't muscular. Would that person be considered good genetics?
polarcat
Member
Wait another 20 years until you are 42, then you might see what I'm talking about
I'll give ya that! Especially since you've got a few years on me. I like what you said about some guys' hard work paying bigger dividends, that's a good way to put it.
Dustin07
Legend
6'4" and 250lbs isn't something a 5'9" natural lifter can get with any amount of lifting and good nutrition.
genetics could affect mostly our bone structure. our height and width. from there I do believe we can do quite a bit on our own for muscular development.
toddmuelheim
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smith_69
Well-known member
He roles in the 1% - keepin real
kisaj
Legend
Wait another 20 years until you are 42, then you might see what I'm talking about
100%. When you hit your 40s, you thank your family genes everyday if you were dealt a good hand.
Monte_Cristo
Member
I remember guys in early high school who had bodies better than the one I managed to get in my early 20s and I wasnt bad at all compared to the others.
Seeing guys eating whatever they want on monday and not eating at all on tuesday cause they are out and not even a muscle loss or fat increase in them, guys who dont train at all nor follow a diet but are blessed with lean bodies, broad shoulders and flat bellies, those are the the guys with good genetics, dont let me start about men in their late 40s with a head full of thick hair.
We can try to bullsh1t each other but genetics plays a major role in our sport performances and life too, the good news is that its very few people to have a really crappy genetic therefore normal people like most of us can achieve decent result given an effort.
I have the most dedication possible, I lift weights, train MMA reach my pro amount daily while never passing the sugar one and what happens? my muscles get stronger, bodyfat decrease week by week but because of genetics my tendons and ligaments cant keep up so they slow me down with discomfort and injuries...thanks to my magnificient dna.
Anyway those who really suffer a bad genetics are women if it happens, an ugly face, flat chest and being prone to get fat in your ass is something you aint fixing not even becoming a millionaire.
Seeing guys eating whatever they want on monday and not eating at all on tuesday cause they are out and not even a muscle loss or fat increase in them, guys who dont train at all nor follow a diet but are blessed with lean bodies, broad shoulders and flat bellies, those are the the guys with good genetics, dont let me start about men in their late 40s with a head full of thick hair.
We can try to bullsh1t each other but genetics plays a major role in our sport performances and life too, the good news is that its very few people to have a really crappy genetic therefore normal people like most of us can achieve decent result given an effort.
I have the most dedication possible, I lift weights, train MMA reach my pro amount daily while never passing the sugar one and what happens? my muscles get stronger, bodyfat decrease week by week but because of genetics my tendons and ligaments cant keep up so they slow me down with discomfort and injuries...thanks to my magnificient dna.
Anyway those who really suffer a bad genetics are women if it happens, an ugly face, flat chest and being prone to get fat in your ass is something you aint fixing not even becoming a millionaire.
rockko
New member
That's very true. A LOT of people fool themselves into either blaming others performance on genetics and lack of training but it all comes down to being the best we can Be. And if that turns out to be THE BEST at something or a record holder than that's awesome but there is no secret to diet and training. Knowledge is everywhere u look. If genetics DID NOT play a role we would all look like Greek gods... But we don't just some of us lol
ericos_bob
Active member
I've got pretty awesome genetics, for getting fat