Epi5tane/Tr3st 6 weeks Log

morata9

morata9

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Hi
Now I have on hand Epi5tane OL and cycle assist. Next week I'll have on hand oral Tr3st OL and TD Formestane.
This is my 6 weeks plan

1,90cm, 91kg, 4 workouts a week. Goal: gain lean mass as much as possible with a bulk diet.

CYCLE

Epistane 30/45/45/45/45/45
Tr3st 50/50/75/75/100/100
TD Formestane on hand (dosage will be how I feel during cycle)
Cycle Assist full dosage
Other supps: Vitamins, Fish Oil, Taurine, Glucosamine

PCT

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Sup3r pct 10/10/10/10 (10cps)
Cycle Assist
TD Formestane post pct

Thanks to Feiwong for help

Now I'm doing a pre-load with a bottle of cycle protect.. I think that I'll start my cycle with a detailed log on Monday or Tuesday 23 February when Tr3st will arrive at home. I live in Italy and I order from Uk store.

Stay tuned.
 
DonnieM said:
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Do you have a stronger AI on hand? With trest that high maybe it could be a good idea, but Im not sure. Ping yates84 ;)
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That's actually a pretty moderate Trest dose. Formestane should be plenty. But you're right that it never hurts to keep something stronger like Exemestane on hand.
 
morata9 said:
Hi
Now I have on hand Epi5tane OL and cycle assist. Next week I'll have on hand oral Tr3st OL and TD Formestane.
This is my 6 weeks plan

1,90cm, 90kg, 4 workouts a week. Goal: gain lean mass as much as possible with a bulk diet.

CYCLE

Epistane 30/45/45/45/45/45
Tr3st 50/50/75/75/100/100
TD Formestane on hand (dosage will be how I feel during cycle)
Cycle Assist full dosage
Other supps: Vitamins, Fish Oil, Taurine, Glucosamine

PCT

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Sup3r pct 10/10/10/10 (10cps)
Cycle Assist
TD Formestane post pct

Thanks to Feiwong for help

Now I'm doing a pre-load with a bottle of cycle protect.. I think that I'll start my cycle with a detailed log on Monday or Tuesday 23 February when Tr3st will arrive at home. I live in Italy and I order from Uk store.

Stay tuned.
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Subbed. Your cycle layout looks great! My only question is your dosing plan for the oral Trest? The extremely short half life will make it very difficult to keep stable blood levels. Are you only using pre-workout for the acute effects or are you going to space out your caps?
 
Jebrook said:
Subbed. Your cycle layout looks great! My only question is your dosing plan for the oral Trest? The extremely short half life will make it very difficult to keep stable blood levels. Are you only using pre-workout for the acute effects or are you going to space out your caps?
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Advised to space every 3/4 hours with a dose prewo. It worked great for me.
 
Trest has just arrived ;)
I'll start my cycle on monday. I have only formestane on hand as AI.. Anyone can help me in private to find exemestane and clomid on eu store ?
 
I started my cycle yesterday..
My training program is split in 4 wo day: monday chest and triceps, Wednesday legs, Thursday back and biceps, Friday deltoids, chest, femoral.
Now I'm 90kg.. I will post before and after cycle photos in this log.
Yesterday I took 30mg epi and 50mg tr3st. First dose of epi at 11:00 and at 11:30 25mg of tr3st. I took the second dose of epi at 18:00 and tr3st at 18:30 (pre wo).


In the workout yesterday I did not notice anything different , and I trained well. But when I went to bed at night I could not sleep because of a rapid heartbeat and stomach ache . I managed to sleep until after 4:30 . Can anyone recommend a specific supplement for this problem ?

Now I take Cycle assist, Omega 3, multi vitamins, vitamin E, vitamin C, glucosamine and taurine.
 
morata9 said:
I started my cycle yesterday..
My training program is split in 4 wo day: monday chest and triceps, Wednesday legs, Thursday back and biceps, Friday deltoids, chest, femoral.
Now I'm 90kg.. I will post before and after cycle photos in this log.
Yesterday I took 30mg epi and 50mg tr3st. First dose of epi at 11:00 and at 11:30 25mg of tr3st. I took the second dose of epi at 18:00 and tr3st at 18:30 (pre wo).


In the workout yesterday I did not notice anything different , and I trained well. But when I went to bed at night I could not sleep because of a rapid heartbeat and stomach ache . I managed to sleep until after 4:30 . Can anyone recommend a specific supplement for this problem ?

Now I take Cycle assist, Omega 3, multi vitamins, vitamin E, vitamin C, glucosamine and taurine.
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It might be unrelated to the ph's. Sort of a placebo/anxiety effect of starting something new. You may have to play around with your dosing times a little if it persists. Alternatively you could try 3 mg of melatonin,valerian root, or GABA. Also OTC sleep aids like dipenhydramine should be relatively safe to use. I use all 4 different sleep aids. Generally I only use one three nights a week and then a different one the next week.

Gonna follow along with your log. Epi/Trest should treat you real nice:)
 
Jebrook said:
It might be unrelated to the ph's. Sort of a placebo/anxiety effect of starting something new. You may have to play around with your dosing times a little if it persists. Alternatively you could try 3 mg of melatonin,valerian root, or GABA. Also OTC sleep aids like dipenhydramine should be relatively safe to use. I use all 4 different sleep aids. Generally I only use one three nights a week and then a different one the next week.

Gonna follow along with your log. Epi/Trest should treat you real nice:)
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Yes, I also think that's related to anxiety.. If it persists I'll try with melatonin and gaba. For a better cycle support can I add some tudca to take with cel cycle assist ?
thanks man ;)
 
Nice stack .. for OL reps, wouldn't it be beneficial to take all Trest at a pre workout dose due to half life being so short ?
 
Good legs wo yesterday. I had no sides But still no benefit from ph. I think they'll kick in next week.
Today I'm doing back and biceps.
 
GQNemesis said:
Nice stack .. for OL reps, wouldn't it be beneficial to take all Trest at a pre workout dose due to half life being so short ?
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I would space it out throughout the day.

It does have a short half life....you can counter this by using dermatrest though.

Some don't like the dermals or like me have kids running around in which case splitting the dose(caps) is the best thing to do.

Some use both, in which case the caps should be used pre workout.
 
edje007 said:
I would space it out throughout the day.

It does have a short half life....you can counter this by using dermatrest though.

Some don't like the dermals or like me have kids running around in which case splitting the dose(caps) is the best thing to do.

Some use both, in which case the caps should be used pre workout.
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^^^Definitely.
 
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Day 4 Back And biceps wo.. god wo. The pump was unbelievable. No sides

Today day 5 I'm doing deltoids, chest and femoral.
 
edje007 said:
I would space it out throughout the day.

It does have a short half life....you can counter this by using dermatrest though.

Some don't like the dermals or like me have kids running around in which case splitting the dose(caps) is the best thing to do.

Some use both, in which case the caps should be used pre workout.
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Got Cha .. Thanks
 
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I'm planning on running this in the fall. 10 weeks total.

1-8: epi, derma,
4-10: 1ad, derma

Or start
1-6: 1ad, derma
2-10: epi, derma

More experienced opinions?
 
Cutty636 said:
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I'm planning on running this in the fall. 10 weeks total.

1-8: epi, derma,
4-10: 1ad, derma

Or start
1-6: 1ad, derma
2-10: epi, derma

More experienced opinions?
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any particular reason for 8 weeks of epi? most people run it for 6 weeks some for 4. and what dose are you planning
 
Yea I ran it before stacked with P-stane for 6 weeks and it did me real good with very little sides. I think I could bump it up since I've got enough, really doesn't kick in till ~week 3 so give me 5 solid weeks at full effect.

I'm open to other options, like I said I'm trying to get this together for fall. Still have to get all the ancillaries stocked up and on deck. Wouldn't surprise me if I drop ~$800 to run it all proper like.

Edit: I also had Rs-Transaderm stacked in there too.
 
I still feel well, no sides. Just a slight headache last night but has passed after taking cycle assists. Today I'll train back and biceps. I have a question..
How many calories should I take to move up in weight during the cycle ? Now I'm on 3.000 and the weight still the same, but i'm only on week 2.
 
Today begins the third week of the cycle . Trest rises to 75 mg with a pump of formestane post wo.
Weight is up to 94kg. I'm fuller and leaner.
 
Today is rest day.. yesterday was the first time for tr3st at 75mg. The pump was unbelievable, one of my best workout ever! Tr3st at 75mg is tremendous.. I felt like a monster during wo.
 
morata9 said:
Today is rest day.. yesterday was the first time for tr3st at 75mg. The pump was unbelievable, one of my best workout ever! Tr3st at 75mg is tremendous.. I felt like a monster during wo.
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Tr3st produces the best pumps;)

Love that!
 
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Post wo yesterday.. pump was unreal. I'm feel very well, but from 2-3 days
I have bad joints , arms and back. I take taurine and glucosammine for joints from the beginning of the cycle.
 
morata9 said:
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Post wo yesterday.. pump was unreal. I'm feel very well, but from 2-3 days
I have bad joints , arms and back. I take taurine and glucosammine for joints from the beginning of the cycle.
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You might want to look into some Cissus or more comprehensive Joint Support. I use Joint Support XT and Cissus XT daily, on cycle or not.

PES Genoflex and Antaeus Achilles get good reviews as well.

You also take fish oil?
 
contro said:
any particular reason for 8 weeks of epi? most people run it for 6 weeks some for 4. and what dose are you planning
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4 would be a waste in my opinion. Ep15tane starts to shine from week 3.

6 is the most commen esspecially when you run it for the first time, but there are also a lot, including myself, that run it for 8 weeks.
 
edje007 said:
4 would be a waste in my opinion. Ep15tane starts to shine from week 3.

6 is the most commen esspecially when you run it for the first time, but there are also a lot, including myself, that run it for 8 weeks.
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How about 45/45/45/60/60? I haave been getting results very early in my cycle and want to keep it short and intense
 
Weight is up to 95.8kg. Now in 5 week trest is up to 100mg. I have bad joints yet.. but I have no sides from tr3st with only 1 pump of formestane and that's good.
 
Misfit28 said:
How is everything else? Mood, libido, strength, etc.?
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Libido is very high , the strength has increased slightly. I feel very good in this cycle, during the workout I feel like a monster . The only problem is the pain in the joints due to epistane. The pump is unreal. I gained 4.8kg and I lost fat in abdominal zone. From 91 to 95.8kg
 
morata9 said:
Libido is very high , the strength has increased slightly. I feel very good in this cycle, during the workout I feel like a monster . The only problem is the pain in the joints due to epistane. The pump is unreal. I gained 4.8kg and I lost fat in abdominal zone. From 91 to 95.8kg
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That sounds awesome!
 
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