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Donald Trump running for president

how about we don't even have a border, everyone is welcome to come and get some!!!

actually that is pretty much the way it is, lol.
 
It's a quote of a persons opinion just a fragment of what they were saying...Not a law! I could take a portion of anything some said and make into what ever my interpretation of it is. The can't expect someone to come here and fallow our laws when they are knowingly braking the law when they come
 
thebigt said:
from the sound of it you are!!!
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Edit. I don't see how being accepting the reality of modern society and being for the betterment of the human race as infringing on your rights.

Giving someone else health care is not taking away your healthcare.
 
89coupe said:
It's a quote of a persons opinion just a fragment of what they were saying...Not a law! I could take a portion of anything some said and make into what ever my interpretation of it is. The can't expect someone to come here and fallow our laws when they are knowingly braking the law when they come
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Pretty strong opinion if it was on the Statue of Liberty lol. No just a Joe smoe opinion
 
Matthandyo said:
You don't see modern healthcare as a human right?
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have you ever saw me ouside of a hospital telling ANYONE they can't get healthcare here? how am I denying anyone any right?

I am voicing an opinion, that hardly qualifies as denying anyone any right!!!

if you are telling me I don't have a RIGHT to an opinion then you are denying me my right!!!
 
thebigt said:
have you ever saw me ouside of a hospital telling ANYONE they can't get healthcare here? how am I denying anyone any right?

I am voicing an opinion, that hardly qualifies as denying anyone any right!!!

if you are telling me I don't have a RIGHT to an opinion then you are denying me my right!!!
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He's not denying you the right of freedom of speech.

Somehow people forget that just because they have freedom of speech that it makes them immune to criticism for that free speech.
 
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Misfit28 said:
He's not denying you the right of freedom of speech.

Somehow people forget that just because they have freedom of speech that it makes them immune to criticism for that free speech.
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you say he is not denying me my right to free speech...but you support him saying I am denying illegals heathcare? how can that be since I am only voicing an opinion.

you can criticize my opinion all you want but telling me I am denying anyone their rights is crossing the line!!!
 
thebigt said:
you say he is not denying me my right to free speech...but you support him saying I am denying illegals heathcare? how can that be since I am only voicing an opinion.

you can criticize my opinion all you want but telling me I am denying anyone their rights is crossing the line!!!
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If you're voting for someone who believes as you've said then I don't think that's crossing a line at all
 
Matthandyo said:
Edit. I don't see how being accepting the reality of modern society and being for the betterment of the human race as infringing on your rights.

Giving someone else health care is not taking away your healthcare.
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Its taking away the fruits of our labor....its not human rights to help people by stealing from others.
 
Matthandyo said:
You don't see modern healthcare as a human right?
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Health care is a service....you dont have a right to someone else's services. That right there is a human rights violation.

People are more than welcome to voluntarily help people and contribute.
 
thebigt said:
have you ever saw me ouside of a hospital telling ANYONE they can't get healthcare here? how am I denying anyone any right?

I am voicing an opinion, that hardly qualifies as denying anyone any right!!!

if you are telling me I don't have a RIGHT to an opinion then you are denying me my right!!!
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Hospitals dont give a crud as they know that tax money stolen from other people keeps flowing in.
 
Here is a compromise: all the liberals can give 30-40% of their paychecks to taxes so that all the people in the world can have free healthcare and iPhones or whatever else they want to give. The rest of their money can go to foreign aid to help out all the "poor" countries that hate us anyway. All the republicans will pay a flat rate of 10% to pay for Medicare for American citizen senior citizens, interstates, and the military. Basically liberals take care of non Americans and republicans take care of our own.

It is not the job of the US to look after the needs of the whole world. The govt is there to interpret the law and enforce it. That's it. It's a crying shame that billions of dollars is given to countries who then have protests on the street chanting death to America and burning our flags.
 
halfahardon said:
Yeah but the illegals need quality health care
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Then they have a right to bring in their money and pay for it. Or they can find a volunteer self funded clinic.

This country is 20 trillion in deficit and they dont give "legal" Americans health care, they let our own troops rot to death in hospital basements in order to cut costs.
 
89coupe said:
I don't know if Trump will be the best thing for this country but I know Hillary isn't! At very least Trump will be a change that will share both parties up and hopefully bring some long term changes.
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Even if Trump is a great man, people are overestimating the powers of what since the 60s has been a puppet seat.

Its going to take much more especially from the local to state levels that want to fight the establishment for real change to happen.

Unfortunately people will blindly flick all the way down the line primarily Democrats or Republicans and not get change.
 
ax1 said:
Health care is a service....you dont have a right to someone else's services. That right there is a human rights violation.

People are more than welcome to voluntarily help people and contribute.
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So then you support amnesty, so that the undocumented immigrants can begin to pay taxes?
 
Matthandyo said:
So then you support amnesty, so that the undocumented immigrants can begin to pay taxes?
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No, I support enforcing our immigration laws and sending them back to their homeland.

I dont want them to pay taxes as I dont support income tax.
 
Matthandyo said:
If you're voting for someone who believes as you've said then I don't think that's crossing a line at all
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look here- who I choose to vote for is my right....I don't approve of Hillary, but I would defend your right to vote for her-it is the meaning of a FREE election...

we are all just voicing opinions here, none of us that I know of are lawmakers who pass laws...how in the hell is voicing an opinion denying someone a right?
 
dixonk said:
Here is a compromise: all the liberals can give 30-40% of their paychecks to taxes so that all the people in the world can have free healthcare and iPhones or whatever else they want to give. The rest of their money can go to foreign aid to help out all the "poor" countries that hate us anyway. All the republicans will pay a flat rate of 10% to pay for Medicare for American citizen senior citizens, interstates, and the military. Basically liberals take care of non Americans and republicans take care of our own.

It is not the job of the US to look after the needs of the whole world. The govt is there to interpret the law and enforce it. That's it. It's a crying shame that billions of dollars is given to countries who then have protests on the street chanting death to America and burning our flags.
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I agree with about 50% of this.
 
halfahardon said:
How do you feel about giving all the illegals brand new cars and drivers licenses?
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Thats terrible, but I think a new Macbook and Obamaphone are reasonable assuming they both come with unlimited LTE service.
 
Misfit28 said:
That's right, it's just the job of America to bomb the sh1t out of women and children
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isn't that what Obama has been doing? you support Obama, right? I guess that makes you a woman and child killer supporter!!!
 
thebigt said:
isn't that what Obama has been doing? you support Obama, right? I guess that makes you a woman and child killer supporter!!!
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Obama's drones of compassion and love bombs dropping women and children by the dozens.

Than that serial killer Obama has the nerve to address the children at Sandy Hook as he is murdering more babies in the middle east by remote control off of his Apple Watch.
 
Misfit28 said:
That's right, it's just the job of America to bomb the sh1t out of women and children
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And there it is!!! First you think that we should be responsible for the human rights of the world and now you think we should stay out of other countries business! By the way I grew up poor and busted my ass yo make something of myself. No spoon here!!!
 
thebigt said:
and I agree with about the other 50%, lol.
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You'd be surprised the 50% I agree with.

That's the thing, these generalizations are made, so someone will take one comment I make and attach 3 or 4 additional assumptions to it. Because I'm a realist and don't favor deporting 11 million people, doesn't mean I want to give them free shiit, give the rest of the world free shiit, neglect our own, etc. I'm not fuking stupid, I'm just a realist and I place my values in the real world and how to maximize current situations to benefit society. And deportation of 11,000,000 isn't realistic. Get it out of your heads.
 
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