Experiences with masteron

VWMeatHead

VWMeatHead

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Hey guys.

Stats: 27, 5'8, 223 lbs, ~15% bf

Strong cycle history.


I'm planning on running 500mg of test e alongside 500mg of mast e for 12 weeks during a cut.

I'm looking for advice/experiences with masteron in general. Likes, dislikes, favorite dose, sides, etc.

Curious about bp issues with mast...it does not aromatize, however I'm sure due to increased RBC it can still cause elevated bp?


Thanks!
 
On test and mast right now, 500mg of each. Cycle is e****lent so far and I have no complaints with mast at all. Libido is e****lent, strength is full retard, and I always feel like a million dollars. BP is definitely an issue, mast really increased my numbers but a little lisinopril and I'm gtg.
 
VWMeatHead said:
Sounds fantastic minus the bp issues.

Damn...I don't have any bp meds lol.
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I'm prone to bp issues fyi, I usually end up on bp meds on most of my cycles.
 
I've used it as well, at first I wasn't super lean but still saw some visual changes, generally tighter appearance. Tried it after T3 cut and looked dense as ****. I don't really care about or train for strength but the increase was still noticable. More than anything I would take it for the mental and mood aspects even if it did not affect my physique

If you can't get an ACE inhibitor like lisinopril, beta blockers work fine too, metoprolol is great for BP on cycle
 
Also yates84, I have been on a lot of different BP meds and just FYI lisinopril has been shown to lower free testosterone in males at doses as low as 5mg. This probably isn't an issue when you're getting exogenous stuff, but something to think about for PCT. Apparently it does not effect total serum T or e2, so it is probably mediated by increasing SHBG, but I don't think they have clinically demonstrated the exact mechanism.

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yates84 said:
On test and mast right now, 500mg of each. Cycle is e****lent so far and I have no complaints with mast at all. Libido is e****lent, strength is full retard, and I always feel like a million dollars. BP is definitely an issue, mast really increased my numbers but a little lisinopril and I'm gtg.
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I remember you saying this was your first time using injectibles correct? How's that goin? You self admin?
 
Darlz said:
I remember you saying this was your first time using injectibles correct? How's that goin? You self admin?
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Yep, first injectable cycle. Cycle is great, making good gains and don't feel like sh1t so that's nice. Pinning myself, it's not hard to do at all.
 
uprightrows said:
Also yates84, I have been on a lot of different BP meds and just FYI lisinopril has been shown to lower free testosterone in males at doses as low as 5mg. This probably isn't an issue when you're getting exogenous stuff, but something to think about for PCT. Apparently it does not effect total serum T or e2, so it is probably mediated by increasing SHBG, but I don't think they have clinically demonstrated the exact mechanism.

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Good info! Did not know that.
 
Mast at 600mg/wk makes me feel like there is a golf ball perm inserted up my ass hole from prostate swelling lol
 
criticalbench said:
Mast at 600mg/wk makes me feel like there is a golf ball perm inserted up my ass hole from prostate swelling lol
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Lol that's how 9 weeks of trest at 200mg made me feel. Never again!
 
Dma378 said:
600mg/week of Mast makes me feel like there is a golf ball at the end of my dik hole from jerking it so much.
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Yeah, I've been giving my old lady hell since I've been on lol
 
yates84 said:
Yeah, I've been giving my old lady hell since I've been on lol
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Old lady couldn't handle the need. Hit it everyday, shower, 2 minutes alone, you name it LOL

Love Mast. Actually didn't feel any bp issues from it and I'm always super BP sensitive. Can also confirm the prostate issues though. So user beware and use responsibly.
 
Gutterpump said:
Does anyone here notice a difference between esters with mast? Mast prop vs Mast enanthate
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Big time. For me E is superior to P

Sustained better effects. With Prop I seemed to have good and less good days in terms of that Alpha feeling mast gives you. With E it never let up.
 
I should have been more specific in my 1st post, I was using 75mg of mast prop ED. I haven't tried the longer esters of mast.

For me the assertiveness/agression was very consistent. I was almost too assertive in certain aspects of my professional life, but it is something you can keep in check if you're aware of it.

As I said earlier, I don't train for strength but I found myself effortlessly adding weight to certain lifts for no reason other than thinking people were staring at me and just riding the alpha feeling.

Libido was sky high to say the least, but I did notice some of what I can only describe as extra internal pressure when urinating (sometimes when ejaculating) if that makes sense. I got lucky and have zero tendency for MPB, so no sides there.

I'd really like to try mast E to compare the difference. Just curious, Dma378 were using mast p ED or EOD?
 
I did masteron once,felt great and awesome recomp but got also very moody sometimes and would end up arguing very easily,anyone else with the same problem?Only reason i dont use it anymore was beacuse of the agressive attidude.Also picking up and banging beautifull women was for some reason very easy on this compond.
 
VWMeatHead said:
So did you guys notice an aid in fat loss?
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I'll put it this way, the first time I used it, it definitely made me look leaner but I don't think it directly made me lose any fat. Second time was after/with the tail end of T3, I probably actually gained a bit of fat but looked a lot better, leaner, harder and fuller. It is all diet, but it can give the illusion of lower BF IMO
 
uprightrows said:
I should have been more specific in my 1st post, I was using 75mg of mast prop ED. I haven't tried the longer esters of mast.

For me the assertiveness/agression was very consistent. I was almost too assertive in certain aspects of my professional life, but it is something you can keep in check if you're aware of it.

As I said earlier, I don't train for strength but I found myself effortlessly adding weight to certain lifts for no reason other than thinking people were staring at me and just riding the alpha feeling.

Libido was sky high to say the least, but I did notice some of what I can only describe as extra internal pressure when urinating (sometimes when ejaculating) if that makes sense. I got lucky and have zero tendency for MPB, so no sides there.

I'd really like to try mast E to compare the difference. Just curious, Dma378 were using mast p ED or EOD?
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It was 100-150mg eod. Perhaps that is the benefit of ed injections.
 
VWMeatHead said:
So did you guys notice an aid in fat loss?
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Would be hard for me to attribute any fat loss to the Mast. I was not cutting, didn't have much fat to lose, and overall composition changed/improved. But I was always using multiple compounds. So the one thing I can definitely narrow down to the Mast is just that feeling of greatness, strength, and libido. Oh and minimal AI usage when using it with Test
 
Dma378 said:
It was 100-150mg eod. Perhaps that is the benefit of ed injections.
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It may very well be, but you still have me interested in trying the longer ester. I actually enjoy pinning ED, not just for stable levels but also as kind of an addictive behavior lol. And with ED dosing even with a lot of practice, pip can be annoying and you still get somewhat noticeable peaks and troughs in terms of mood, so maybe enanthate is the way to go. I also wonder if there is a difference in severity or duration of the side effects.

Also for OP another thing I did not mention in earlier posts, I get a pretty noticable BP increase on mast p, I am prone to BP sides from all androgens, and mast is worse than test for me, I use prescription beta blockers to manage it.
 
Dma378 said:
Big time. For me E is superior to P

Sustained better effects. With Prop I seemed to have good and less good days in terms of that Alpha feeling mast gives you. With E it never let up.
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Hrmmm.... I'm planning out the spring run and the base is going to be trest ace, so I was thinking tren ace and mast prop, since I'll be pinning daily.

But now I'm thinking tren hex and mast e. I'll still have to pin daily though..dammit. What are your thoughts? Just stick to P and do daily shots?
 
Gutterpump said:
Hrmmm.... I'm planning out the spring run and the base is going to be trest ace, so I was thinking tren ace and mast prop, since I'll be pinning daily.

But now I'm thinking tren hex and mast e. I'll still have to pin daily though..dammit. What are your thoughts? Just stick to P and do daily shots?
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My thoughts are go for it LOL. My general attitude with these things is "try it". Be prepared for sides in all regards and do it. If it's not working to your liking stop or tweak it. But I have no experience with Trest Ace or Tren Hex so I can't give any specific yay or nay. I like experimental combos though as long as they make some logical sense.
 
Gutterpump said:
Hrmmm.... I'm planning out the spring run and the base is going to be trest ace, so I was thinking tren ace and mast prop, since I'll be pinning daily.

But now I'm thinking tren hex and mast e. I'll still have to pin daily though..dammit. What are your thoughts? Just stick to P and do daily shots?
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Are you lean enough to effectively use back loaded slin pins and hit the muscle in your delts and lats?
 
Dma378 said:
My thoughts are go for it LOL. My general attitude with these things is "try it". Be prepared for sides in all regards and do it. If it's not working to your liking stop or tweak it. But I have no experience with Trest Ace or Tren Hex so I can't give any specific yay or nay. I like experimental combos though as long as they make some logical sense.
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It definitely doesn't make sense for my hairline, but I'm prepared to soak my scalp in nizoral cream nightly lol
And with that combo, will likely be taking lithium ororate too
 
Gutterpump said:
I ran ace for 3 months before, so I'm used to the daily shots. Was hitting delts, glutes and ventroglutes with 1" 25g pins. Haven't tried lats yet.
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Have you tried using back loaded insulin pins? They are 1cc (1ml) .5" 29g. You can pull out the plunger and use whatever gauge you want to fill them. As long as you are lean it makes for a very easy rotation if you can effectively reach the muscle. You can do left delt, right lat (just push it into the ventral aspect of your lat), r delt, l lat. Also, not sure what the concentration of you gear is, but if you need more than 1ml a day you can hit multiple aspects of the delt or long head of tri if you are careful. Those slin pins aren't really suitable for glutes though, but are still my favorite for ED injections
 
In for more info about mast.
Running 350 tren ace and 125 test e weekly right now.
Current idea for next cycle in the summer is probably the same thing or with 250 or 300 test, and try adding in 500mg mast E weekly. Superdrol kicker and winstrol finisher. Shred city baby.
Never thought about pinning lats, mine are currently covered in veins so I assume they're lean enough to stick with my slin pins. Might try that today!
 
BamBam0319 said:
In for more info about mast.
Running 350 tren ace and 125 test e weekly right now.
Current idea for next cycle in the summer is probably the same thing or with 250 or 300 test, and try adding in 500mg mast E weekly. Superdrol kicker and winstrol finisher. Shred city baby.
Never thought about pinning lats, mine are currently covered in veins so I assume they're lean enough to stick with my slin pins. Might try that today!
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Great inject site if you've never tried it! Find your serratus anterior and pin in the ventral aspect of latissimus dorsi slightly distal to that. Haha.. jk just get a clean pin in chest side of your lat with your shoulder relaxed and curled in slightly. Try not to hit a vien, also never aspirate (draw back the plunger) with a slin syringe, just depresse the plunger once the needle is fully buried
 
uprightrows said:
Have you tried using back loaded insulin pins? They are 1cc (1ml) .5" 29g. You can pull out the plunger and use whatever gauge you want to fill them. As long as you are lean it makes for a very easy rotation if you can effectively reach the muscle. You can do left delt, right lat (just push it into the ventral aspect of your lat), r delt, l lat. Also, not sure what the concentration of you gear is, but if you need more than 1ml a day you can hit multiple aspects of the delt or long head of tri if you are careful. Those slin pins aren't really suitable for glutes though, but are still my favorite for ED injections
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Yup I used to do that, but then when I started using dien ace (which has a very high solvent concentration), I ran into some allergic reactions/rashes, so I switched to 25g pins, and cut the oil with sterile grapeseed oil. Scared to use slin pins for anything over 0.5CC now.
 
Gutterpump said:
Yup I used to do that, but then when I started using dien ace (which has a very high solvent concentration), I ran into some allergic reactions/rashes, so I switched to 25g pins, and cut the oil with sterile grapeseed oil. Scared to use slin pins for anything over 0.5CC now.
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I never use more than .5cc with a slin pin.
 
Gutterpump said:
Yup I used to do that, but then when I started using dien ace (which has a very high solvent concentration), I ran into some allergic reactions/rashes, so I switched to 25g pins, and cut the oil with sterile grapeseed oil. Scared to use slin pins for anything over 0.5CC now.
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My bad, didn't realize you were that experienced :). For whatever reason my body doesn't mind high concentration EO or BA, but awesome you know how to titrate your ****
 
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Has anyone ever ran mast e and p simultaneously? Like say
Weeks 1-10 Mast E 500mg
Weeks 1-5 Mast P 200mg (50mg EOD MWFSun)
Just for a little extra fast acting boost at the front of the cycle?
 
BamBam0319 said:
Has anyone ever ran mast e and p simultaneously? Like say
Weeks 1-10 Mast E 500mg
Weeks 1-5 Mast P 200mg (50mg EOD MWFSun)
Just for a little extra fast acting boost at the front of the cycle?
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I haven't, but I'd rather use winny tabs preworkout at the start if that's the case. Big strength boost
 
Gutterpump said:
I haven't, but I'd rather use winny tabs preworkout at the start if that's the case. Big strength boost
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I do have 100 50mg tabs currently en route...
 
BamBam0319 said:
Has anyone ever ran mast e and p simultaneously? Like say
Weeks 1-10 Mast E 500mg
Weeks 1-5 Mast P 200mg (50mg EOD MWFSun)
Just for a little extra fast acting boost at the front of the cycle?
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No, but that sounds ideal, it is similar to how I run my test cycles. I feel mast P almost immediately, much sooner than I notice test P, it is evident in terms of my mood and mentality in 3 or 4 days, if it were me I would go with Mast P 50-75mg ED or even 25 ED. I've put my liver through enough and I don't really use orals that much anymore (except for osta between cycles). But if that is what you have (oral winstrol) I would use it pre workout I guess
 
uprightrows said:
No, but that sounds ideal, it is similar to how I run my test cycles. I feel mast P almost immediately, much sooner than I notice test P, it is evident in terms of my mood and mentality in 3 or 4 days, if it were me I would go with Mast P 50-75mg ED or even 25 ED. I've put my liver through enough and I don't really use orals that much anymore (except for osta between cycles). But if that is what you have (oral winstrol) I would use it pre workout I guess
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25mg ED isn't a bad idea, I'll be dosing tren A every day just like I am currently so I'll be pinning every day anyway.
The winny doesn't necessarily have to be used, I'll just have it on hand already because I'm using it to finish my current cycle and I'll have a bunch left over. As mentioned before I'm getting 100, but I'll probably only use 28-42 (4-6 weeks at 50mg a day) on this cycle.
 
Well I am sure you're already enjoying the tren, a little mast won't hurt, but don't expect the addition of mast to give you the same changes in your physique as when you introduced tren. Even a little bit of tren goes a long way and it has by far yielded the most noticeable results of any compound I have been on (haven't tried IM dienolone yet), the addition of mast will just give you the mind set to lift all day, **** anything in sight, lift again and take a nap, **** and lift again. The addition of winny might help overall body comp and strength especially with the tren and mast if you choose to use it, but with that combo I would keep a very close eye on your lipid profile, it is likely to get "rekt", and BP might be a very real concern. Also... not talking down to you, but how old are you bam?
 
uprightrows said:
Well I am sure you're already enjoying the tren, a little mast won't hurt, but don't expect the addition of mast to give you the same changes in your physique as when you introduced tren. Even a little bit of tren goes a long way and it has by far yielded the most noticeable results of any compound I have been on (haven't tried IM dienolone yet), the addition of mast will just give you the mind set to lift all day, **** anything in sight, lift again and take a nap, **** and lift again. The addition of winny might help overall body comp and strength especially with the tren and mast if you choose to use it, but with that combo I would keep a very close eye on your lipid profile, it is likely to get "rekt", and BP might be a very real concern. Also... not talking down to you, but how old are you bam?
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Thanks for the input, it's always good to see the experiences of people who have used the stuff you're considering.
I'm 21. Feel free to talk down lol, I know I'm young.
 
Absolutely love this drug. Enanthate was far better than prop. The negative I got was that this was the only thing I've taken that has caused some hair loss.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Thanks for the input, it's always good to see the experiences of people who have used the stuff you're considering.
I'm 21. Feel free to talk down lol, I know I'm young.
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Well at least you are young and and not too stupid, you seem to know what you are doing. It might not be a popular view, but I'm a proponent of the theory that the younger your HPTA is, the easier it is to recover from AAS as long as you don't really **** up your pct or on cycle support (use HCG and an AI as soon as your cycle starts), and if you can manage and monitor your BP and lipids and have financial resources (really important) to deal with unforeseen issues or whatever tests/medical expenditures you might incur while you are using, go for it!
 
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