Dosing Guide for Popular PH/DS

[saywutrly]

You can find almost all of these somewhere in the world. Also people stocked up before the ban, so people might still have these compounds even if they aren't available anymore. Why not put the info out there just in case..?

A very valid point. I picked up two banned ones off this list from a brother who had stocked up before the ban. This information is definitely important.

 

[GQNemesis]

The1 is banned as well Jebrook ??

 

[Jebrook]

The1 is banned as well Jebrook ??

Yep, it was on the list

 

[Jebrook]

For those who have requested to know what was banned.


The following steroids / prohormones have been explicitly banned by HR 4771:

5α-Androstan-3,6,17-trione (A form of 6-oxo)
6-bromo-androstan-3,17-dione (A form of 6-bromoandrostenedione, an aromatase inhibitor)
6-bromo-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione
4-chloro-17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol (“Halodrol”)
4-chloro-17α-methyl-androst-4-ene-3β,17β-diol (“P-Mag” or “Promagnon 25”)
4-chloro-17α-methyl-17β-hydroxy-androst-4-en-3-one (17a-methyl clostebol)
4-chloro-17α-methyl-17β-hydroxy-androst-4-ene-3,11-dione (“Oxyguno”)
4-chloro-17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol (“Halodrol” is listed twice)
2α,17α-dimethyl-17β-hydroxy-5α-androstan-3-one (“Methasterone” or “Superdrol)
2α,17α-dimethyl-17β-hydroxy-5β-androstan-3-one
2α,3α-epithio-17α-methyl-5α-androstan-17β-ol (“Epistane” or “Havoc”)
[3,2-c]-furazan-5α-androstan-17β-ol (“Furuza”)
3β-hydroxy-estra-4,9,11-trien-17-one
17α-methyl-androst-2-ene-3,17β-diol
17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol (“M1,4ADD”)
Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione (“Trendione”)
18a-Homo-3-hydroxy-estra-2,5(10)-dien-17-one
6α-Methyl-androst-4-ene-3,17-dione (Found in “Methyl-1 Pro”)
17α-Methyl-androstan-3-hydroxyimine-17β-ol (“The One” or “D-Plex”)
17α-Methyl-5α-androstan-17β-ol (“Methylandrostanol” / “Protobol”)
17β-Hydroxy-androstano[2,3-d]isoxazole (“Androisoxazole”)
17β-Hydroxy-androstano[3,2-c]isoxazole
4-Hydroxy-androst-4-ene-3,17-dione (“Formestane”)
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5α-androstan-17β-ol (“Prostanozol”)
[3,2-c]pyrazole-androst-4-en-17β-ol
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5α-androstan-17β-o (“Prostanozol”)

 

[GQNemesis]

Gq always loses what he loves

first phera, tren, sd , epi then the1

 

[booneman77]

Gq always loses what he loves

first phera, tren, sd , epi then the1

have you tried triumph? should be fairly similar results wise to the1... plus we've still got msten/dmz which is a start ha

 

[Jebrook]

Would be nice to add which compounds are still being sold or are legal/illegal and in what parts of the world. I've never heard of M1-4ADD until now. I'm assuming it's not for sale in the US?

Refer to post #154 for a list of what is banned in the US. As far as what's legal/illegal everywhere, that's too big of a task for this guy

 

[BamBam0319]

Gq always loses what he loves

first phera, tren, sd , epi then the1

Hey man, the UK is always just right across the pond. I'm using superdrol right now.

have you tried triumph? should be fairly similar results wise to the1... plus we've still got msten/dmz which is a start ha

I still really wanna try triumph, despite the fact that I've made the move over to the dark side. Kickers are always fun

 

[BamBam0319]

Refer to post #154 for a list of what is banned in the US. As far as what's legal/illegal everywhere, that's too big of a task for this guy

You've done more than enough sir!

 

[GQNemesis]

Hey man, the UK is always just right across the pond. I'm using superdrol right now.

Shyt if trump gets elected, will keep that option open

 

[Misfit28]

Shyt if trump gets elected, will keep that option open

I feel the same way brother!

 

[BamBam0319]

Shyt if trump gets elected, will keep that option open

Lol true but I meant just order from the UK. Got 2 kickstarts' worth of sdrol for $50 shipped

 

[booneman77]

Lol true but I meant just order from the UK. Got 2 kickstarts' worth of sdrol for $50 shipped

dayum thats a steal

 

[BamBam0319]

dayum thats a steal

It was pretty damn good and it's definitely not bunk either. I'm looking into another brand though if I end up getting more. Just to compare and contrast

 

[Misfit28]

Lol true but I meant just order from the UK. Got 2 kickstarts' worth of sdrol for $50 shipped

Wow, no issues with customs or anything?

 

[BamBam0319]

Wow, no issues with customs or anything?

Nope. It hung out in Chicago for a while but then all of a sudden was ready for pickup at the post office.

 

[GQNemesis]

shyt that stuff is damn too strong for me

10mg had me depressed/wanna commit suicide .. i was unsuccessful at it

 

[GQNemesis]

Lol true but I meant just order from the UK. Got 2 kickstarts' worth of sdrol for $50 shipped

heck of a deal .. how about good ol Xtren ?

 

[BamBam0319]

shyt that stuff is damn too strong for me

10mg had me depressed/wanna commit suicide .. i was unsuccessful at it

Lol bumped from 20mg to 30mg yesterday for my third and final week whoops

heck of a deal .. how about good ol Xtren ?

Not sure, what is that?

 

[GQNemesis]

Lol bumped from 20mg to 30mg yesterday for my third and final week whoops

Dang .. yeah 5mg is a perfect dose for me lol

gain about 10-20lbs in 3weeks

Not sure, what is that?

19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione

in my mind best non methyl compound .. users were stacking this with epi, m1,4add, halo

epi+xtren = spawn took off pretty well back in the day.

then came trenV, which on a paper is suppose to be better .. but really didn't took off like Xtren(19nor) did.

 

[Shin Sprints]

I just started first ever ph run with Halo...was thinking of keeping it solo (50/75/75/75/75/75) but I have OL Super Ep1...hold off on taking to see if I need it? Or stack 500mg for the 6 weeks?

Reason I ask is I heard it is good to stack but I would like to know how I am reacting to Halo as I have never taken EpiA either.

A bit worried by EpiA though with hair loss which is another reason I was thinking not to take it.

Any feedback is welcome.

 

[Thefatbloke]

Run Halo solo for a first cycle.
Consider a second cycle with epiAndro after pct +10 weeks off.

 

[GQNemesis]

Virgin receptors , just run halo solo & focus on diet .. You will see great results

 

[mrgoomba]

Anyone else have stuff sent to us without customs issues?

 

[motiv8er]

Great post Broham! Great info.

 

[Jebrook]

Great post Broham! Great info.

Thank you sir

 

[DonnieM]

I just started first ever ph run with Halo...was thinking of keeping it solo (50/75/75/75/75/75) but I have OL Super Ep1...hold off on taking to see if I need it? Or stack 500mg for the 6 weeks?

I would add the EpiAndro if you get lethargic...

 

[DonnieM]

Dang .. yeah 5mg is a perfect dose for me lol

gain about 10-20lbs in 3weeks




19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione

in my mind best non methyl compound .. users were stacking this with epi, m1,4add, halo

epi+xtren = spawn took off pretty well back in the day.

then came trenV, which on a paper is suppose to be better .. but really didn't took off like Xtren(19nor) did.

Im interested in hearing more about Xtren. Heard it's good to stack with Halo like you said. What does it add to a cycle, muscle hardness? How is it in terms of sides? And whats a good dosage, around 90mg? Cheers!

 

[Jebrook]

Im interested in hearing more about Xtren. Heard it's good to stack with Halo like you said. What does it add to a cycle, muscle hardness? How is it in terms of sides? And whats a good dosage, around 90mg? Cheers!

Increased muscle hardness, lean mass, and vascularity. 90 mg is usually the sweet spot for most. Sides can be rough. Mostly same as injectable tren except for the 'Tren cough'. It's pretty much the harshest of the non-methyls. Very good stacking compound though and some tolerate it extremely well.

 

[GQNemesis]

Im interested in hearing more about Xtren. Heard it's good to stack with Halo like you said. What does it add to a cycle, muscle hardness? How is it in terms of sides? And whats a good dosage, around 90mg? Cheers!

Yup what Jebrook said

great muscle hardness as its a great dry compound, so users would add it to a wet compound esp phera.

Horrible sides > Nightmares/sleep issue and tren D!ck .. have some cialis on hand lol

and yup 90-100mg solo

 

[DonnieM]

Increased muscle hardness, lean mass, and vascularity. 90 mg is usually the sweet spot for most. Sides can be rough. Mostly same as injectable tren except for the 'Tren cough'. It's pretty much the harshest of the non-methyls. Very good stacking compound though and some tolerate it extremely well.

Yup what Jebrook said

great muscle hardness as its a great dry compound, so users would add it to a wet compound esp phera.

Horrible sides > Nightmares/sleep issue and tren D!ck .. have some cialis on hand lol

and yup 90-100mg solo

Thanks guys. So it basically acts the same (in terms of sides etc) as "Trenavar"?
It intrigues and scares me at the same time.

 

[Jebrook]

Thanks guys. So it basically acts the same (in terms of sides etc) as "Trenavar"?
It intrigues and scares me at the same time.

It is Trenavar, which is the prohormone to Trenbolone.

 

[DonnieM]

It is Trenavar, which is the prohormone to Trenbolone.

Ok, but aren't they two different compounds/or nomenclatures? I just read this, no idea if it's valid or not though, I'm just a guy wanting to learn more...
"You have Trendione and its similar named clones such as Trenavar etc - This is a PH of Trenbolone and converts to this.
Old fashioned PH products named Tren like Tren-V, Pro-Tren, X-Tren and so on are 19-nor compounds which (and this is my assumption) were named after Tren due to the similarity of what they brought to the table.".

Therefor my curiousness about them being 'same' or 'similar' Thanks

 

[Jebrook]

Ok, but aren't they two different compounds/or nomenclatures? I just read this, no idea if it's valid or not though, I'm just a guy wanting to learn more...
"You have Trendione and its similar named clones such as Trenavar etc - This is a PH of Trenbolone and converts to this.
Old fashioned PH products named Tren like Tren-V, Pro-Tren, X-Tren and so on are 19-nor compounds which (and this is my assumption) were named after Tren due to the similarity of what they brought to the table.".

Therefor my curiousness about them being 'same' or 'similar' Thanks

This is copied from the Tren bible:

Tren is a popular over-the-counter anabolic steroid/pro-hormone, Tren is one of the more storied compounds on the market and also one of the most confusing as they’re are four separate compounds that are commonly referred to as Tren. However two of the forms (17b-methoxy-trenbolone) and (13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one) have been discontinued or are non-existent.

This article primarily covers the two most popular and available forms (estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione) and (19-Norandrosta4,9diene-3,17dione) both of these compounds should be treated as being identical.

 

[DonnieM]

This is copied from the Tren bible:

Tren is a popular over-the-counter anabolic steroid/pro-hormone, Tren is one of the more storied compounds on the market and also one of the most confusing as they’re are four separate compounds that are commonly referred to as Tren. However two of the forms (17b-methoxy-trenbolone) and (13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one) have been discontinued or are non-existent.

This article primarily covers the two most popular and available forms (estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione) and (19-Norandrosta4,9diene-3,17dione) both of these compounds should be treated as being identical.

Got it. Thanks Jebrook.
May I suggest you adding "Boladrol" to the guide? Not sure how well used or liked it is, seem like many people think it's "meh". Maybe someone on AM used it.

 

[Jebrook]

Got it. Thanks Jebrook.
May I suggest you adding "Boladrol" to the guide? Not sure how well used or liked it is, seem like many people think it's "meh". Maybe someone on AM used it.

Haven't read up on it but I'll sure add it to the list! Updates have slowed but rest assured I still plan to keep adding to the info.

 

[BamBam0319]

Trenavar is the tits. Trenbolone is the Ferrari of tits.

 

[Jebrook]

Trenavar is the tits. Trenbolone is the Ferrari of tits.

Somebody has kicked into gear. Lol

 

[BamBam0319]

Somebody has kicked into gear. Lol

Hahaha it's so much better than prohormones, but they still have their uses. Kickstarts and stuff. I definitely want to experiment with the synergy of epistane with various compounds.

 

[Dma378]

Anyone else have stuff sent to us without customs issues?

Regularly

 

[brofessorx]

Trenadione and dienedione both were called tren ph's.

Dienedione has one less ene group that tren which is tri ene.

 

[booneman77]

Hahaha it's so much better than prohormones, but they still have their uses. Kickstarts and stuff. I definitely want to experiment with the synergy of epistane with various compounds.

epi + trest.... magic city

 

[hamdysayed]

epi + trest.... magic city

Very interesting stack I can imagine bp tho???

 

[booneman77]

Very interesting stack I can imagine bp tho???

I never have BP issues... and the epi helped control some of the trest estro sides. it was perfect

 

[BamBam0319]

epi + trest.... magic city

I bet. I have a bottle and a half of oral trest and like 3/4 bottle of dermatrest. I wasn't seeing much at 75mg/day, I may have to try 100+ next time.

 

[booneman77]

I bet. I have a bottle and a half of oral trest and like 3/4 bottle of dermatrest. I wasn't seeing much at 75mg/day, I may have to try 100+ next time.

Forget oral for sure and meh to td... IM or gtfo

 

[BamBam0319]

Forget oral for sure and meh to td... IM or gtfo

I've heard good things about it... Maybe in the future. For now I've got a couple tried and true compounds that I want to become acquainted with!

 

[Misfit28]

epi + trest.... magic city

So you did this injected? I've got a bottle of oral Tr3st and Epi I'm planning to run in April or so

 

[booneman77]

So you did this injected? I've got a bottle of oral Tr3st and Epi I'm planning to run in April or so

yep. IM is so much better.

 

[Misfit28]

yep. IM is so much better.

Eh, guess I'll have to yet that next time!