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butea superba

Danes said:
almost 18$, 60 caps (each 400mg).
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What do you think of evomuse Testruction? It has most of the things mentioned in this thread and some extra goodies.
Could you stack Testruction and test1fy? I thought about doing that as it looks awesome.
 
rtmilburn said:
What do you think of evomuse Testruction? It has most of the things mentioned in this thread and some extra goodies.
Could you stack Testruction and test1fy? I thought about doing that as it looks awesome.
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It looks great but the main question is, Does Evomuse use quality extract?

You can stack it with Test1fy but I would first run solo one of those two products (you are running Test1fy at the moment).
 
Danes said:
It looks great but the main question is, Does Evomuse use quality extract?

You can stack it with Test1fy but I would first run solo one of those two products (you are running Test1fy at the moment).
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Ya that what i was think as well. I fully believe the evomuse does use good extracts matt has never let me down before.
 
rtmilburn said:
Ya that what i was think as well. I fully believe the evomuse does use good extracts matt has never let me down before.
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Well BMP was nothing than garbage for me. Did nothing for me.
Creatine monohydrate compared to BMP was like steroids compared to rice flour.

The main issue with formulators :
1.adding ingredients which MAY/COULD work in humans.
Yea, many rats studies seems impressive but rat is rat. I wonder how many formulators have tested their products (done bloodwork) before selling it out
They have much to learn of Japanese formulators.
 
How long did you run BMP? I think it's something more geared to getting results if you run it for an extended period of time.
 
Danes said:
Well BMP was nothing than garbage for me. Did nothing for me.
Creatine monohydrate compared to BMP was like steroids compared to rice flour.

The main issue with formulators :
1.adding ingredients which MAY/COULD work in humans.
Yea, many rats studies seems impressive but rat is rat. I wonder how many formulators have tested their products (done bloodwork) before selling it out
They have much to learn of Japanese formulators.
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Everything i have tried from him has been fantastic! Im sorry you haven't had a good experience
 
rtmilburn said:
Everything i have tried from him has been fantastic! Im sorry you haven't had a good experience
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Same here! I am currently running Myosynergy Elite, but I am experiencing pretty bad anxiety with it. I was thinking it was from the butea in it. What do you guys in this thread think (those that have tried butea solo)? I have ran the OG Myosynergy multiple times without any issues. I also know it may not actually be the supplement that is bringing on my anxiety. I am just think it may be since it started around the same time I started it.
 
ELROCK said:
Same here! I am currently running Myosynergy Elite, but I am experiencing pretty bad anxiety with it. I was thinking it was from the butea in it. What do you guys in this thread think (those that have tried butea solo)? I have ran the OG Myosynergy multiple times without any issues. I also know it may not actually be the supplement that is bringing on my anxiety. I am just think it may be since it started around the same time I started it.
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I really doubt its due to Butea S. (Cant never be for sure ofcourse). Butea would rather decrease Anxiety than increase it
 
Danes said:
I really doubt its due to Butea S. (Cant never be for sure ofcourse). Butea would rather decrease Anxiety than increase it
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Appreciate the reply man. I will continue to monitor it to try and pin point the response a little better.
 
Yes, using it now and that seems to work that way, decreasig anxiety (and i'm anxious). Maybe check your blood pressure, it seems my BP is slightly higher now in this supp. But who knows, maybe it's not caused by the butea. I have up and down in BP every month...
 
machinehead said:
Same for me

BMP 0/10
MyoSynergy Elite 2/10
It gave me ridiculous power at the bottom of the squat so I guess the ATP is working. No other benefits
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Yea ATP or PeakATP is working and there are studies proving it.
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Danes said:
Yea ATP or PeakATP is working and there are studies proving it.
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I don't think they rep here anymore. Magnitropin seems to have a lot of parallels to Anabeta Elite. Paedarea Foetida seems to be similar to Anacyclus in it's properties and ability to raise test, etc. (according to rat/mouse studies I believe) and it has Epicatechin and Cistanche as side ingredients.
 
ma70 said:
I don't think they rep here anymore. Magnitropin seems to have a lot of parallels to Anabeta Elite. Paedarea Foetida seems to be similar to Anacyclus in it's properties and ability to raise test, etc. (according to rat/mouse studies I believe) and it has Epicatechin and Cistanche as side ingredients.
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Yea I would like to use it due to Gentiana Lutea.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
PeakATP, ElevATP, PeakO2.... I'm soooooo confused :)
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ElevATP:
plant-derived inorganic microelements and apple polyphenols.(boosting ATP levels)

PeakATP:
patented form of Adenosine 5'- Triphosphate (ATP).

Peak02:
patent-pending blend of six adaptogens.


I like ATP such as PeakATP.gives me amazing pumps and musclefullness.
 
ELROCK said:
Same here! I am currently running Myosynergy Elite, but I am experiencing pretty bad anxiety with it. I was thinking it was from the butea in it. What do you guys in this thread think (those that have tried butea solo)? I have ran the OG Myosynergy multiple times without any issues. I also know it may not actually be the supplement that is bringing on my anxiety. I am just think it may be since it started around the same time I started it.
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So today was my second day without talking the Myosynergy Elite and the anxiety I was experiencing is almost completely gone. It could just be a mental thing for me, but I am leaning towards one of the two added ingredients not sitting well with me.
 
Another man who is experiencing the DHT effect of Butea:

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"Don't know if anyone will see this but hey why not.
Me: 28, male, military, cannot implement many natural testosterone methods due to my job. On TRT, pellet therapy, puts my total T about 1100. Been on for a year feel great. Through your blog started reading about DHT, ran across this article and got interested. Got tested. DHT was low despite zinc and other mineral supplementation. Test scale was 16-79, mine was at 16. Changed nothing, started taking 2gm of Butea Superba a day, 1gm morning 1gm night for one month. Got tested, DHT was at 65. All in all id say thats scientific enough finding that this is a supplement that actually does something."
 
Now it's more than 2 weeks i'm in, and i can confirm a VERY strong calming effect, however with plenty of energy and power for high intensity gym exercises. It gives me even so much endurance i can go with 1,5 hour+ intense exercising! not a placebo for sure!
 
QuarkStar said:
Yes, i've used 3 a day and i'm only 170 lbs...he's a big guy in the future i think he can even try 4 caps, Swanson Butea is not a strong extract :)
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We never know how he react to Butea and the bodyweight does not mean anything when it comes to reacton to a herb/plant :) but it is definitely possible to take higher dose :)
 
Danes said:
Try 2 caps daily first week then 3 caps 2nd week.
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Gotcha. I've been taking 3 day already. I'll drop to 2 for the rest of the week. Should it be taken with food or empty stomach?

QuarkStar said:
Yes, i've used 3 a day and i'm only 170 lbs...he's a big guy in the future i think he can even try 4 caps, Swanson Butea is not a strong extract :)
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lol I'm only 245...

Danes said:
We never know how he react to Butea and the bodyweight does not mean anything when it comes to reacton to a herb/plant :) but it is definitely possible to take higher dose :)
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I'll stick with 2-3 for at least a couple weeks, then maybe try 4 if it doesn't do anything.
 
Take it with or without food :)
If you dont feel much of 3 caps the first week then you can increase the dose to 4 caps :)even higher if 4 caps dont do much
 
Danes said:
Depends on quality like all herbs/plants.
I know poeple who tried TA and was disapointed. After trying a quality TA, they was speechless
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old thread bringin it back to life

so i bought that 30:1 BS 500 mg, I just started using it today as part of a pct for OSTA was wondering whats the deal with this will it accelrate MPB or do you think it actually helps hair growth as sources tend to say. The study on the guy who was taking it where his DHT levels shot up unfortunately never answered the question, did he keep his hair or lose more?

maybe in some crazy way it increses free dht and down regulates the receptor which makes it neutral on hair, I'm just throwin darts here lol but ill report back what i notice from it.
 
ericool007 said:
old thread bringin it back to life

so i bought that 30:1 BS 500 mg, I just started using it today as part of a pct for OSTA was wondering whats the deal with this will it accelrate MPB or do you think it actually helps hair growth as sources tend to say. The study on the guy who was taking it where his DHT levels shot up unfortunately never answered the question, did he keep his hair or lose more?

maybe in some crazy way it increses free dht and down regulates the receptor which makes it neutral on hair, I'm just throwin darts here lol but ill report back what i notice from it.
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The study of Butea Superba where a male had increased DHT leveks above the normal range is nothing I would trust to br honest. God knows what that "local" product was spiked with.
 
Danes said:
The study of Butea Superba where a male had increased DHT leveks above the normal range is nothing I would trust to br honest. God knows what that "local" product was spiked with.
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you make a very good point, didnt you have success with this brand of BS though?
i guess im just trying to find something that gives me all the benefits of DHT minus the hair shedding is that to much to ask for?!! :)
 
ericool007 said:
you make a very good point, didnt you have success with this brand of BS though?
i guess im just trying to find something that gives me all the benefits of DHT minus the hair shedding is that to much to ask for?!! :)
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Butea Superba is a tricky one. It increase DHT while it also have hair loss preventing benefits and helping with prostate issues.
Butea Superba contain sterols such as beta-sitosterol, campesterol and stigmasterol.Beta-Sitosterol is a 5AR inhibitor which means less androgen sides such as hair loss, prostate issues ++.
So actually it should not give higher DHT levels . So how it increase DHT while decreasing 5AR , its a good question.

BHE Butea Superba 30:1 is good one
 
Danes said:
Butea Superba is a tricky one. It increase DHT while it also have hair loss preventing benefits and helping with prostate issues.
Butea Superba contain sterols such as beta-sitosterol, campesterol and stigmasterol.Beta-Sitosterol is a 5AR inhibitor which means less androgen sides such as hair loss, prostate issues ++.
So actually it should not give higher DHT levels . So how it increase DHT while decreasing 5AR , its a good question.

BHE Butea Superba 30:1 is good one
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Are you saying it doesn't have DHT-like effects on the body, for example vascularity, hardness, libido?
 
GreenMachineX said:
Are you saying it doesn't have DHT-like effects on the body, for example vascularity, hardness, libido?
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I don't think anyone truly knows a lot of people say it does give dht like effects at least libido wise but people have used it for hair loss as well I think there was a study on it stacked with saw palmetto that had positive results
 
GreenMachineX said:
Are you saying it doesn't have DHT-like effects on the body, for example vascularity, hardness, libido?
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It can have those effects. I have friends who swear it really made them horny, gave them positive agression ++.
But libido enhancing effect is more due to PDE5 inhibiting effect. Butea superba can be used by those with ED issues and its proven!
 
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Sifting through some of the comments and feedback in here... anyone cycle this for around 60~ days? Thoughts? Basically i'm interested in the DHT stimulation that is associated with this herb... can it be expected for the dht levels to quickly lower after finishing up the butea

FWIW I purchased a bottle of BHE butea and plan on running it for 60 days at 2 caps
 
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