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Help me with my stack/cycle please! (bulk)

Zariph

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Hey, gonna start this stack very soon and need some help;)

This is for my lean buling:

ABE(week 1-8) + ARA starting first day with ABE doing 50 training days
Tr1iumph is a staple so will be run from day 1 also...

Now I also got 2 ep1c unleashed and 1 str3ngth unleashed.. should I stack them with ara+abe or should I wait and do something liek

EU week 8-16
SU week 10-14


Last couple of questions

I also have a bottle of erase pro, will the be useful for this cycle at all or should I just save it for another time?

Also do I need an estrogen controller or anything when running any of these supplements;)?

Appreciate the help!
 
What were your results with the ABE+ArA run? I would suggest splitting them up and do two separate runs, week 1-8 of ABE+ArA, and then follow that with an EU+SU run. Running all of them at once will be overkill IMO. As far as estrogen goes, you will be fine - these are natural products that won't interefere with your estrogen levels.

What are you overall goals? Are you planning to bulk for 16+ weeks? It really depends on what your overall goals are. And I would also make sure you dial in your nutrition to ensure you're getting enough calories to make these products worth the money. I would save the Erase Pro for a recomp or cut cycle, I feel that its unnecessary to use during a bulk. I'm curious to know what your overall goals are though, short term and long term. That'll help figure out what your stacking should be
 
john.patterson said:
What were your results with the ABE+ArA run? I would suggest splitting them up and do two separate runs, week 1-8 of ABE+ArA, and then follow that with an EU+SU run. Running all of them at once will be overkill IMO. As far as estrogen goes, you will be fine - these are natural products that won't interefere with your estrogen levels.

What are you overall goals? Are you planning to bulk for 16+ weeks? It really depends on what your overall goals are. And I would also make sure you dial in your nutrition to ensure you're getting enough calories to make these products worth the money. I would save the Erase Pro for a recomp or cut cycle, I feel that its unnecessary to use during a bulk. I'm curious to know what your overall goals are though, short term and long term. That'll help figure out what your stacking should be
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thx man really appreciate the help!

I will bulk for atleast 12 more weeks, not sure if I want to run a short cut afterwards or continue bulking...my goals is to add as much size and strength as possible!...

My results with my ara+abe run was good which is why I want to run the same stack, also its fine for me not to stack it all, just wondered if there would be any benefits of adding EU or SU into the ara+abe cycle, ofr if its better wating till after the ABE+ara
 
Zariph said:
thx man really appreciate the help!

I will bulk for atleast 12 more weeks, not sure if I want to run a short cut afterwards or continue bulking...my goals is to add as much size and strength as possible!...

My results with my ara+abe run was good which is why I want to run the same stack, also its fine for me not to stack it all, just wondered if there would be any benefits of adding EU or SU into the ara+abe cycle, ofr if its better wating till after the ABE+ara
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You're welcome my man. I don't really see a point in stacking 4 great products together like that. I would prefer to split them up and do two separate 8 week cycles. ABE+ArA is an incredible stack as it is, and if you've gotten good results in the past I don't think adding more to the mix is your best bet. I would split it up, and then tag the Erase Pro after your 12-16 week bulk when you start your cut, depending on your goals. I think if you eat in a surplus and you train hard, you'll see great results in 16 weeks with those two stacks. Then you can focus your attention to cutting while maintaining your size and strength.

I would recommend stacking the Erase Pro with Oxymax XT after your bulk and shoot for a cut/recomp. Erase Pro+Oxymax would be a great stack to allow you to keep your strength and size while cutting fat. Oxymax contains 25mg of forskolin per cap, which would be a great benefit for a recomp stack after your bulk. Sticking with a plan like this would be a great way to ensure a lean physique with some serious size increase in time for summer
 
john.patterson said:
You're welcome my man. I don't really see a point in stacking 4 great products together like that. I would prefer to split them up and do two separate 8 week cycles. ABE+ArA is an incredible stack as it is, and if you've gotten good results in the past I don't think adding more to the mix is your best bet. I would split it up, and then tag the Erase Pro after your 12-16 week bulk when you start your cut, depending on your goals. I think if you eat in a surplus and you train hard, you'll see great results in 16 weeks with those two stacks. Then you can focus your attention to cutting while maintaining your size and strength.

I would recommend stacking the Erase Pro with Oxymax XT after your bulk and shoot for a cut/recomp. Erase Pro+Oxymax would be a great stack to allow you to keep your strength and size while cutting fat. Oxymax contains 25mg of forskolin per cap, which would be a great benefit for a recomp stack after your bulk. Sticking with a plan like this would be a great way to ensure a lean physique with some serious size increase in time for summer
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Thx a lot, will take a look into Oxymax XT when I decide when imma going to cut up ;D, thx!
 
Did you mean running ArA on your training days? What dose are you running it at?

I'd just wait and see on the OL products. It might be worthwhile to add them in if you cut back the calories.
 
Daycrawler said:
Did you mean running ArA on your training days? What dose are you running it at?

I'd just wait and see on the OL products. It might be worthwhile to add them in if you cut back the calories.
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yeh planning on doing 4 caps on training days;)

will EU+SU be good on a cut too? or is it better for bulkng
 
I would recommend a good gda product such as Slin Max from Performax Labs to help keep insulin sensitivity high during the rest of your bulk it works wonders for me helping stave off fat accumulation.

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