Dosing Guide for Popular PH/DS

Would be nice to add which compounds are still being sold or are legal/illegal and in what parts of the world. I've never heard of M1-4ADD until now. I'm assuming it's not for sale in the US?
 
pogue said:
Would be nice to add which compounds are still being sold or are legal/illegal and in what parts of the world. I've never heard of M1-4ADD until now. I'm assuming it's not for sale in the US?
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Nope, it's banned in the us. It's the ph to dbol.
 
AustBenny said:
Yeah meant The One...
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I mention it to the owner of OL about once a week. The 1 will be back if I have anything to say about it.
 
Gstyle24 said:
This is great, but are any of these still available to buy? I can't find most of them anywhere.
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Plenty are still available. Just takes some searching or looking across the pond. Hex, DMZ, Sten, and Alpha are fairly easy to find in the states still.
 
my source across the pond has some great OL uk stuff but dont carry The 1 yet, would be great if they did so I can finally try this stuff...also I have a great site with a ton of PH/SD info similar to op has provided if anyone interested pm for link.
 
Gstyle24 said:
This is great, but are any of these still available to buy? I can't find most of them anywhere.
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You'll find all the good old ph's on different uk sites. They ship to Norway without being seized, so would give it a shot :-)
 
Yeah, I just got superdrol a couple weeks ago.
 
Jebrook said:
Thanks gramps. Good to see you posting again:)
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I'm still reading AM every night, some new PH products are coming up, like precursors to Deca and Boldenone. Looking forward to more info on that.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I'm still reading AM every night, some new PH products are coming up, like precursors to Deca and Boldenone. Looking forward to more info on that.
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I thought there were already prohormones to deca? Look up warrior labz d-sten, it has a deca prohormone in it
 
5Percent said:
I thought there were already prohormones to deca? Look up warrior labz d-sten, it has a deca prohormone in it
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Thats not a ph to deca but the already active/converted version of maxlmg. Its technically illegal. Its also pretty strong chit when dosed high enough (btw that product is underdosed)
 
dave39 said:
It might mask the pain while on cycle but it won't cure the problem
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I want to try anyway. The problem began after an Trenavar-Epistane cycle, Deca would re-lubricate the joints (bro-science).

I opened a thread for my problem, maybe someone knows a cure.
 
I just updated the OP with some new compounds and began adding half-life, which derivative type, typical uses, and FAQ/Tips at the bottom as well as links to other informative guides.
 
Jebrook said:
I just updated the OP with some new compounds and began adding half-life, which derivative type, typical uses, and FAQ/Tips at the bottom as well as links to other informative guides.
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I like the additions, nice job J.
 
Thoughts and recommendations on running a halo/furuza stack? The problem that I keep running into is finding info about eventually running the furuza at high doses thus negating the fact that it is a mild compound. Pretty much meaning that running the compound at high doses will not make it mild and therefore more taxing on your body and endocrine system.
 
The additions are really great sound advice too. I am constantly regurgitating that to people who are constantly asking questions about cycling. Nice write up.
 
Demgainz said:
Thoughts and recommendations on running a halo/furuza stack? The problem that I keep running into is finding info about eventually running the furuza at high doses thus negating the fact that it is a mild compound. Pretty much meaning that running the compound at high doses will not make it mild and therefore more taxing on your body and endocrine system.
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That goes for any compound. Toxicity is often dose dependent. If stacking the two go lower with the dose than running solo. So possibly Halo in the 50-100 mg range and Furaza in the 1-200 range. Use a solid cycle support and be prepared for contingencies beforehand. Should be a nice dry combo for lean gains.
 
Jebrook said:
Here's a couple links from AM. Not a lot of info around here. I'll pm some more info when I have time.

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Thanks bro, plz shoot me that pm I don't know why there is hardly any info out there about it!
 
hamdysayed said:
Jebrook why in og post u don't recommend Dimethadrol for beginners?
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Basically erring on the side of caution. I haven't used it so I really couldn't say for sure. I have 2 bottles I'm excited to run soon though. It is a little difficult to find complete logs and good anecdotal feedback. On paper, it is from the same family of compounds as SD and Phera and is structurally similar to SD. One article I read claimed it could possibly be the strongest in that class. Nothing I've read anecdotally makes it seem even close. But I figured better to be prudent with a recommendation. I would personally love to hear experienced users thoughts on it's potency. My feeling is that it is probably okay for a first or 2nd methylated cycle, but probably not for a first ever cycle.
 
Jebrook said:
Basically erring on the side of caution. I haven't used it so I really couldn't say for sure. I have 2 bottles I'm excited to run soon though. It is a little difficult to find complete logs and good anecdotal feedback. On paper, it is from the same family of compounds as SD and Phera and is structurally similar to SD. One article I read claimed it could possibly be the strongest in that class. Nothing I've read anecdotally makes it seem even close. Bit I figured better to be prudent with a recommendation. I would personally love to hear experienced users thoughts on it's potency. My feeling is that it is probably okay for a first or 2nd methylated cycle, but probably not for a first ever cycle.
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First thank u so much for shooting me pm with more info, and on paper it says extremly potent but logs not so much, everyone mention how side effects are very low!
That sound good to me, I'm trying to get my hands on a bottle or 2 I only ran epistane and 4 dhea and it was intense cycle cos I ate baddddd.
 
hamdysayed said:
First thank u so much for shooting me pm with more info, and on paper it says extremly potent but logs not so much, everyone mention how side effects are very low!
That sound good to me, I'm trying to get my hands on a bottle or 2 I only ran epistane and 4 dhea and it was intense cycle cos I ate baddddd.
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Anytime bro. It was a good question too. I can always revise the OP to keep the best info in there.
 
So which of these are currently legal in the US (if any at all)? And do any have short detection times in urine like winstrol or anavar?
 
dronkey said:
So which of these are currently legal in the US (if any at all)? And do any have short detection times in urine like winstrol or anavar?
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I believe Msten, Alpha 1, and DMZ are still technically legal and still being produced by a few companies. I think there's a few more of the lesser known ph/ds still legal as well. I have no idea about detection times. Sorry.
 
Whats the differences and similarities for compounds like Halodrol vs Turinabol in terms of effects/sides? Is there a reason for a user to run Halodrol instead of Turinabol, or other way round? Pros/cons? :)
 
DonnieM said:
Whats the differences and similarities for compounds like Halodrol vs Turinabol in terms of effects/sides? Is there a reason for a user to run Halodrol instead of Turinabol, or other way round? Pros/cons? :)
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It used to be that one was legal and the other wasn't. Personally, given the choice of running a steroid or its prohormone I would choose the steroid every time just because there is no conversion that needs to take place inside the body since it's already an active steroid.
 
yates84 said:
It used to be that one was legal and the other wasn't. Personally, given the choice of running a steroid or its prohormone I would choose the steroid every time just because there is no conversion that needs to take place inside the body since it's already an active steroid.
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Alright man. What about a compound "being active itself"? For example M14ADD converting to dbol in some degree, but the rest 80-90% is something else. Never quite fully understood this.
 
DonnieM think about administering good ol Test. It will work on the androgen-receptor as Testosterone. But a part will be converted to DHT wich in itself will also bind the androgen receptor.
So you have the "prohormone" Testosteron wich is active itself and the "active Steroid" DHT.

M1,4ADD in this analogy is Testosterone and Dianabol DHT. Both active but one will convert into the other to a part.
 
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