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DMZ vs MSTEN

VWMeatHead

VWMeatHead

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So I recently ran a short cycle of DMZ and LOVED the effects it had on my physique. Stripped body fat, dried me out, increased vascularity. ..and of course increased strength and a few lbs of lean mass.

My question is...how does MSTEN compare?

I have a few bottles of each, and I'm curious how to the two compare for those of you who have experience with both.


Thanks!
 
I believe msten might b a tad stronger. But you will get similar effects msten might start working quicker 2.
 
Msten over DMZ for me. DMZ for me took longer to kick in, didn't got back pumps pretty bad around week 5, Msten stacked with epiandro was my favorite, strength went through the roof on squat and bench, no major sides to note. Ran Msten for 6 weeks at 20,20,20,30,30,30
 
YouBet33 said:
Msten over DMZ for me. DMZ for me took longer to kick in, didn't got back pumps pretty bad around week 5, Msten stacked with epiandro was my favorite, strength went through the roof on squat and bench, no major sides to note. Ran Msten for 6 weeks at 20,20,20,30,30,30
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Great to gear.
 
I've only run Msten and didn't really like it. It only kicked in at week 3 and I ran it 4 weeks. Got some side effects of liver stress also. Will not run it again. DMZ sounds like it'd be even worse on the liver though.
 
YouBet33 said:
Msten over DMZ for me. DMZ for me took longer to kick in, didn't got back pumps pretty bad around week 5, Msten stacked with epiandro was my favorite, strength went through the roof on squat and bench, no major sides to note. Ran Msten for 6 weeks at 20,20,20,30,30,30
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Isn't M-sten usually dosed between like 8 and 16? Did you try the lower doses prior to the 20/30 man?
 
dave39 said:
Isn't M-sten usually dosed between like 8 and 16? Did you try the lower doses prior to the 20/30 man?
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Sorry I went 10mg the first like 3-4 days....it was Msten 10 by lgi . Honestly did not wanna come off absolutely was killing it in the gym.
 
It has an adequate amount of msten, right? Just short the dmz and alpha-1? (that's what ive heard other people say) I actually picked up four bottles, factory sealed off eBay a while back. I've never ran anything other than LGD and Halo.
Imagine I'd probably blow up taking 3.0 at 2 caps a day for four weeks. I have alot of tr3st too, so maybe 50mgs pwo ed. (im thinking about this for my next cycle)
 
jake1986 said:
It has an adequate amount of msten, right? Just short the dmz and alpha-1? (that's what ive heard other people say) I actually picked up four bottles, factory sealed off eBay a while back. I've never ran anything other than LGD and Halo.
Imagine I'd probably blow up taking 3.0 at 2 caps a day for four weeks. I have alot of tr3st too, so maybe 50mgs pwo ed. (im thinking about this for my next cycle)
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I just dont like those sdmz combos at all
 
welcome to the world of choices
This happens to be my favorite set of ph's.
Dmz is great in so many aspects . Only difference i felt between msten and dmz was the paranoia. Msten excited my ptsd . But its a great compound if you dont have to take any anti anxiety pills thru that day. How long would you run each 1 and at wat dosage?
 
bighulksmash said:
welcome to the world of choices
This happens to be my favorite set of ph's.
Dmz is great in so many aspects . Only difference i felt between msten and dmz was the paranoia. Msten excited my ptsd . But its a great compound if you dont have to take any anti anxiety pills thru that day. How long would you run each 1 and at wat dosage?
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Thanks for the input big guy.

I ran dmz for 3 weeks at 45mg...fantastic!

Don't know about the msten.
 
VWMeatHead said:
Thanks for the input big guy.

I ran dmz for 3 weeks at 45mg...fantastic!

Don't know about the msten.
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Msten is phenomenal, i have never heard of any negative feedback from anyone using it. It's a close call on which ones better . My personal favorite was always dmz. I just put up my 1 yr natty log pics up in the morning and supplement plan for first 4 months. In the log section haha . Come join!
 
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Invalid Link Removed dmz i love this dudes videos !!! Hah quick disclaimer here DONT FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THIS VIDEO ITS FOR A BASIC EDUCATION ON WHAT EACH ONE IS
 
Msten was Harder on my alk Phos levels than dmZ.. I preferred the results of dmZ as well, better fullness.
 
bighulksmash said:
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Invalid Link Removed dmz i love this dudes videos !!!
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Whhhaaatttt???? My god that dmz video has some of the worst advice I've ever heard...??!!! That faq portion is gonna get someone killed
 
booneman77 said:
Whhhaaatttt???? My god that dmz video has some of the worst advice I've ever heard...??!!! That faq portion is gonna get someone killed
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Yeah did u see where he said no cycle support need i almost tossed another laptop out my window. I fixed my op just incase the dimmer bulbs dont already know how to cycle .
 
bighulksmash said:
Yeah did u see where he said no cycle support need i almost tossed another laptop out my window. I fixed my op just incase the dimmer bulbs dont already know how to cycle .
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Crap like that is exactly why 16yr old kids ruin their entire life and good things get banned. I can't believe strong actually supported that. That's embarrassing.
 
booneman77 said:
Crap like that is exactly why 16yr old kids ruin their entire life and good things get banned. I can't believe strong actually supported that. That's embarrassing.
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Ha the worst part is my youngest brother ran sdmz2 with no support for 3 weeks and didn't tell anyone. He is very lucky to be alive .
 
bighulksmash said:
Ha the worst part is my youngest brother ran sdmz2 with no support for 3 weeks and didn't tell anyone. He is very lucky to be alive .
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Ugh that's a nightmare. Hopefully he was lucky tho.

Unfortunately the lucky guys are also the ones who usually begin to sell all the bs "well it worked for me" ha.
 
bighulksmash said:
Yeah did u see where he said no cycle support need i almost tossed another laptop out my window. I fixed my op just incase the dimmer bulbs dont already know how to cycle .
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Not sure which video you were shooting at but the guy on Strong Supplement shop says a PCT is needed and a On Cycle Support from about 1:19-140. Then in the FAQ it says support supplements can be taken if you wish too...well, yeah, that is true. If you do not wish to there is no legal reason to do so. You'll just risk organ damage but hey, that's on those whom choose not to take On Cycle support.

Thousands of people run this crap with zero support supplements and make it through well.

But, yeah, in the video before the FAQ he says that they recommend that you take a On Cycle and PCT.

I would recommend anyone that is using to take support supplements but will they die of they dont? Laughable at best.
 
hardknock said:
Not sure which video you were shooting at but the guy on Strong Supplement shop says a PCT is needed and a On Cycle Support from about 1:19-140. Then in the FAQ it says support supplements can be taken if you wish too...well, yeah, that is true. If you do not wish to there is no legal reason to do so. You'll just risk organ damage but hey, that's on those whom choose not to take On Cycle support.

Thousands of people run this crap with zero support supplements and make it through well.

But, yeah, in the video before the FAQ he says that they recommend that you take a On Cycle and PCT.

I would recommend anyone that is using to take support supplements but will they die of they dont? Laughable at best.
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I was talking about the dmz video , he says oct is needed then goes on to say No its not needed but you can take them if you want to . Who in the fukk would say that . Thats just wrong .1:43 i posted the vid for description only not advice . Weird tho i will never understand why anyone would say oct is no needed . Azine bonding is not any easier on the liver than conventional fission of molecular substances.
 
bighulksmash said:
I was talking about the dmz video , he says oct is needed then goes on to say No its not needed but you can take them if you want to . Who in the fukk would say that . Thats just wrong .1:43 i posted the vid for description only not advice . Weird tho i will never understand why anyone would say oct is no needed . Azine bonding is not any easier on the liver than conventional fission of molecular substances.
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True...I'm not sure why he says Yes on one part then No on the other but hey, they can do whatever floats their boat.
 
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