dave39
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You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.
Laxogenin
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Irons_Mule
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Demination
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Its not that they run out of ideas, its that companies don't want to stay complacent with where they are. If you are complacent with what you got going on you won't progress and get better.. Technology advances and so does the science behind it. I think the phytoFUSE is an amazing part to add to OL Old Str3ngth.
LiftWithDonuts
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Notice the ones saying it does something are the ones selling it.
AndrewMcD
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I certainly am not selling anything and have no affiliation with any company....
But I have loved my experience with laxo.
LiftWithDonuts
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It must have not been laxogenin lol
AndrewMcD
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So you're saying Olympus Labs spikes their products?
LiftWithDonuts
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AndrewMcD
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Ive ran it enough times to 100% say it was not placebo. Like I said I was doubling the dose of DermaStrength so $120 a month wasn't ideal. But hopefully with the new phytophuse technology it'll allow me to not have to double dose.
Can already feel the same muscle fullness after starting my run of Strength UL!
LiftWithDonuts
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That's cool, keep making them phytophuse technology gains lol
Irons_Mule
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I too have no affiliation with any supp companies. And to be honest, I really do not appreciate your or others condescension regarding my results.
I understand your opinion of Laxo. The clinical trials are inconclusive at best and it was found to not work out as intended. But that doesn't mean it doesn't do anything or can't have any other benefits.
To say, because you didn't see any results so anyone that does MUST be placebo is just closed-minded.
I'm not saying Laxo is a game changer, but for me I saw a small amount of both quantifiable and subjective results.
I've heard very respected trainers, biologists, and physicians say arachidonic acid doesn't do anything either. But take a look around at the following X-Gels have and tell me it's just placebo for all of them too.
I'm not saying you have to hop on the Laxo band-wagon...but you can say it didn't work for you and you question its potential without calling out those that like it. An even MORE constructive response would be to fully answer OPs question by suggesting other stuff for him to try that you all believe DOES work.
AndrewMcD
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Woody
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Lax and Epi are two products that people are either going to love or hate. No one will say it was mediocre or did okay but not worth the money. They will either say it was great or it was terrible. I'm not sure if a lot of people are non responders or are expecting 12 lbs of lean mass per day and are disappointed.
Epi worked great for me. I haven't tried lax, but OL hasn't disappointed me yet.
Epi worked great for me. I haven't tried lax, but OL hasn't disappointed me yet.
ma70
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Hope you like it. Every single log I've ever seen of ecdysterone or laxogenin has always been stacked with 20 other different things, and every single experience (that's not on here) that has been remotely positive has been using ecdy/laxo for their adaptogenic properties, not their "natural anabolic" properties (which I still don't believe in yet, at the doses people use them at). I'd really love to see the benefits of the supposed phytofuse technology, but everyone is stacking Str3ngth/Dermastr3ngth Unleashed with Ep1c Unleashed, which makes just about every one of their experiences suspect/not legit at all to me.
Irons_Mule
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So, why not conduct your own experiment?
ma70
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I've used Mass Pro Synthagen, currently using Most Wanted (cyclodextrined ecdy/laxo), and will be trying out Str3ngth unleashed solo in the future. It takes time to run this stuff solo. Haha...
Irons_Mule
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jwinak82
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I have different goals than most on this form, I'm not trying to put on any mass. I just want to get as strong as I possibly can with out putting on weight. When I have used laxogenin I notice some of the benefits, my recovery time get's better, lift's go up in weight a little faster,I harden up a little, but where I really notice it is in my cardio. This might all be a placebo effect but who knows. I like it.
thescience
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ive never taken a laxo product i didnt hate, but i bought phytofuse laxo because, regardless of past traumas, if you havent tried it you dont know. ive actually tried so many versions that i wouldnt have mustered up the will to get this if it wasnt for OL's reputation, so take heed all you companies that no longer care how your customer base views you. if the delivery system does the trick, im pretty sure i ll let everybody know in a few weeks; otherwise i will remain politely silent out of respect for an innovative attempt
Demination
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Im excited to start myself.. Going to try the new epic/ strength stack soon!! Just got off of their Legend
dave39
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How did you do with Legend?
Demination
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Took legend and stacked it with TR3ST for 8 week, started 2 caps daily then bumped to 3 caps daily. Started 197 and ended at 228 at 10-12% BF. Lifted about 5-6 days out of the week for aprox 1.5-2 hours. For a wet gainer i was very surprised because i have never been so vascular. People started seeing my results and all started to hop on the stack!
Mister_T_
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doing some poking around and I saw this, figured I would share my 2 cents.
I picked up "legendary" by chaos and pain. I think it works great if dosed at 4 caps (100mg) a day.
sgtgreen
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Laxogenin has shown to increase protein synthesis by over 200% which is accentual in lean muscle growth and accelerated repair. Users also experience body fat reduction while using this compound as it’s shown to balance cortisol response which is key to healthy recovery and reduction of muscle wasting.
Many use Laxogenin for injury and surgery repair as it has shown to regenerate the healing process by 10 fold. It is currently being tested for fistula repair, shoulder repair, knee surgery and general anabolic regeneration issues related to aging.
The catabolic, or destruction of mature healthy cells, has been a problem for science throughout mankind and nothing on the market has shown better for repairing or regenerating cellular decline, making Laxogenin the most important preventative, regenerative product in modern medicine.
Laxogenin is a plant sterol and its purpose in the plant kingdom is to ensure survival in inclement conditions and in turn does the same for the human body. Recent science has concluded that plant sterols for age related conditions, such as, DNA repair and regeneration, are some of the most dynamic seen in modern medicine. As anit-aging is now viewed as a disease state, there is nothing better to treat it than Laxogenin. Laxogenin is being currently tested and used for the reversal of many diseases and cancers.
It just happens to a strong anti inflammatory as well, most users only use one bottle were the effects of joints is seen within 2 weeks. For it's real purpose it would need to be used for at least 12 weeks and true GH product. Most wont pay the high cost to see its benefits making it one of the most under rated ingredients in the industry.
You also have worry about quality.
I've personally tested several Lax products and many do not contain Laxogenin at all.
One in fact contained 5 different anabolics! I choose not to expose companies but we do not carry some lines.
Our best sellers of Lax are LGI and Olympus.
JPSwole
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Laxogenin has shown to increase protein synthesis by over 200% which is accentual in lean muscle growth and accelerated repair. Users also experience body fat reduction while using this compound as it’s shown to balance cortisol response which is key to healthy recovery and reduction of muscle wasting.
Many use Laxogenin for injury and surgery repair as it has shown to regenerate the healing process by 10 fold. It is currently being tested for fistula repair, shoulder repair, knee surgery and general anabolic regeneration issues related to aging.
The catabolic, or destruction of mature healthy cells, has been a problem for science throughout mankind and nothing on the market has shown better for repairing or regenerating cellular decline, making Laxogenin the most important preventative, regenerative product in modern medicine.
Laxogenin is a plant sterol and its purpose in the plant kingdom is to ensure survival in inclement conditions and in turn does the same for the human body. Recent science has concluded that plant sterols for age related conditions, such as, DNA repair and regeneration, are some of the most dynamic seen in modern medicine. As anit-aging is now viewed as a disease state, there is nothing better to treat it than Laxogenin. Laxogenin is being currently tested and used for the reversal of many diseases and cancers.
It just happens to a strong anti inflammatory as well, most users only use one bottle were the effects of joints is seen within 2 weeks. For it's real purpose it would need to be used for at least 12 weeks and true GH product. Most wont pay the high cost to see its benefits making it one of the most under rated ingredients in the industry.
You also have worry about quality.
I've personally tested several Lax products and many do not contain Laxogenin at all.
One in fact contained 5 different anabolics! I choose not to expose companies but we do not carry some lines.
Our best sellers of Lax are LGI and Olympus.
Have you tried anafuse?
sgtgreen
Member
I haven't heard of or tried yet no.
Demination
Member
Yeah 100mg is the dose that you should take. I am taking the Strength unleashed which has 50mg a cap of laxogenin. Took it about 2 weeks long and now finally started to feel the difference. I am only taking one product so i have been recording the increase in strength. All my lifts have gone up, especially my squat!! Do you get a month supply by dosing 4 caps of legendary>