Planning First SARM Cycle

KetoSpartan

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I'm looking at using SARMs (or Cardarine at the least) to speed things along a little bit.
Currently 214lbs, 20% bf last I checked (though I was heavier at the time), 31.

I've got some Primeval Super Cardarine on hand and I want to had some SARMs to it. I've thought of using Primeval's Tri SARM but the vision issues that accompany S4 freak me out (sure it goes away but what will it do to my eyes down the road).

I'm thinking Ostarine and LGD-4033.
Cycle would be 8 weeks with 4 weeks PCT.

Dosing would be:
Cardarine - 30mg/day
Ostarine - 30mg/day
LGD - 15mg/day

I'll have Clomid for PCT (still researching the dosing for that) and an AI on had should I need it.
Should I continue the Cardarine during PCT?

For the SARMs themselves I'd like to use pills as it's just easier for me plus no nasty taste from the liquid.
Thinking about using Primeval Super LGD and Blackstone Labs Ostapure, are these good/worth a damn?

Thanks!
 
What's your goal with this stack? I can personally vouch for blackstone labs and Olympus...
 
KetoSpartan said:
I'm looking at using SARMs (or Cardarine at the least) to speed things along a little bit.
Currently 214lbs, 20% bf last I checked (though I was heavier at the time), 31.

I've got some Primeval Super Cardarine on hand and I want to had some SARMs to it. I've thought of using Primeval's Tri SARM but the vision issues that accompany S4 freak me out (sure it goes away but what will it do to my eyes down the road).

I'm thinking Ostarine and LGD-4033.
Cycle would be 8 weeks with 4 weeks PCT.

Dosing would be:
Cardarine - 30mg/day
Ostarine - 30mg/day
LGD - 15mg/day

I'll have Clomid for PCT (still researching the dosing for that) and an AI on had should I need it.
Should I continue the Cardarine during PCT?

For the SARMs themselves I'd like to use pills as it's just easier for me plus no nasty taste from the liquid.
Thinking about using Primeval Super LGD and Blackstone Labs Ostapure, are these good/worth a damn?

Thanks!
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Read through this, lots if good sarms info
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/270011-sarms-mk-gw.html
 
Fughk blackstone, just go with olympus m8. Clomid could be ran 50/50/25/25 and I would recommend running it with Sup3r Pct. Which Ai do you have on hand? Lgd dosage seems higher than most of what I see. And read yates84 thread on sarms, has plenty of good info to absorb m8, best of luck!
 
hvactech said:
What's your goal with this stack? I can personally vouch for blackstone labs and Olympus...
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Cut/recomp. My goal is to get to around 10% BF (I know that this likely won't happen on this stack but it will at least get me towards my goal).

I'm having an operation in January that will put me out of the gym for bout a month so I want to make up for lost time.

jake1986 said:
LGD would be plenty @10mg/day. Also gonna need pharma grade serm.
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Thanks for that ingo. I will have Clomid on hand.

yates84 said:
Read through this...
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Thanks, great post.
When you have the 4/4/4...etc is this mg per day per week dosing? Only thing I'm not quite clear on.

NattyBoy said:
Fughk blackstone, just go with olympus m8. Clomid could be ran 50/50/25/25 and I would recommend running it with Sup3r Pct. Which Ai do you have on hand? Lgd dosage seems higher than most of what I see. And read yates84 thread on sarms, has plenty of good info to absorb m8, best of luck!
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Does Olympus still have Ostarine? I'm sure I could find it with a search.
I do not have an AI yet.

I'm still in research/purchase mode. Only thing I have right now is Cardarine.
 
KetoSpartan said:
Cut/recomp. My goal is to get to around 10% BF (I know that this likely won't happen on this stack but it will at least get me towards my goal).

I'm having an operation in January that will put me out of the gym for bout a month so I want to make up for lost time.



Thanks for that ingo. I will have Clomid on hand.



Thanks, great post.
When you have the 4/4/4...etc is this mg per day per week dosing? Only thing I'm not quite clear on.



Does Olympus still have Ostarine? I'm sure I could find it with a search.
I do not have an AI yet.

I'm still in research/purchase mode. Only thing I have right now is Cardarine.
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Strongsupplementshop still has Ol Ostarine
 
KetoSpartan said:
Thanks, great post.
When you have the 4/4/4...etc is this mg per day per week dosing? Only thing I'm not quite clear on.
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Yes, that's exactly what it means.
 
Also, pick one as there's receptor competition. Try LGD to start and bulk some, then Osta to cut.
 
I would recommend aromasin for your AI, its a suicidal aromatase inhibitor so there is no rebound when you come off of it.
 
TeamTGB said:
I would recommend aromasin for your AI, its a suicidal aromatase inhibitor so there is no rebound when you come off of it.
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^^this. Have exemestane on hand before you run any kind of hormonal compound.
 
dhehyo said:
I would save the Cardarine for PCT. Amazing how it keeps the fat gains down following a cycle.
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I was thinking about running it the whole 12 weeks or maybe start on week 4 so it would cover some of the cycle and PCT.

TeamTGB said:
I would recommend aromasin for your AI, its a suicidal aromatase inhibitor so there is no rebound when you come off of it.
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You mean steroidal?
I've noticed some of the OTC AIs have pro hormones in them (or Ostarine too),, this won't cause me issues?

yates84 said:
^^this. Have exemestane on hand before you run any kind of hormonal compound.
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Do I take the Exemestane during the whole cycle or only if/when gyno starts to appear?
 
KetoSpartan said:
I was thinking about running it the whole 12 weeks or maybe start on week 4 so it would cover some of the cycle and PCT.



You mean steroidal?
I've noticed some of the OTC AIs have pro hormones in them (or Ostarine too),, this won't cause me issues?



Do I take the Exemestane during the whole cycle or only if/when gyno starts to appear?
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Exemestane is a steroidal ai, yes, but it is also suicidal, meaning it crushes estrogen and eliminates it pretty much forever, also eliminating the chances of rebound. Only take exemestane if estrogen sides appear (puffy nipples, itchy/tingly nipples etc)
 
NattyBoy said:
Exemestane is a steroidal ai, yes, but it is also suicidal, meaning it crushes estrogen and eliminates it pretty much forever, also eliminating the chances of rebound. Only take exemestane if estrogen sides appear (puffy nipples, itchy/tingly nipples etc)
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Thanks! So have it on hand but only use it if I start having signs of high estrogen.

I also see some people recommending OTC PTC 'supplements' like OL Sup3r PCT or Primeval Mega PCT. Should I take one of these also?
 
KetoSpartan said:
Thanks! So have it on hand but only use it if I start having signs of high estrogen.

I also see some people recommending OTC PTC 'supplements' like OL Sup3r PCT or Primeval Mega PCT. Should I take one of these also?
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Sup3r pct is the best otc pct on the market. Mega pct from what i recall, had ostarine in it, so i would definitely avoid that lmao. What serm are you running with it?
 
KetoSpartan said:
Tamoxifen most likely.
Would an on cycle be necessary or no with SARMs?
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I would definitely run cycle support because sarms, as far as i know, can still have an effect on blood pressure, cholesterol, prostate, etc. Also, many rc sources sell Tamoxifen Citrate, which is actually weaker than Nolvadex, so if thats the case, 30.4mg is truly 20mg and 15.2mg is truly 10mg. I would check with your source to make sure their tamoxifen is truly 20mg before you go under the recommended dosage lol
 
NattyBoy said:
I would definitely run cycle support because sarms, as far as i know, can still have an effect on blood pressure, cholesterol, prostate, etc. Also, many rc sources sell Tamoxifen Citrate, which is actually weaker than Nolvadex, so if thats the case, 30.4mg is truly 20mg and 15.2mg is truly 10mg. I would check with your source to make sure their tamoxifen is truly 20mg before you go under the recommended dosage lol
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Yes, still can effect liver values and bp but hair and prostate (androgenic sides) are not a concern because of sarms selective nature. Sarms only occupy receptors in bone and muscle tissue, this is one of the reasons sarms have gained so much popularity.
 
NattyBoy said:
I would definitely run cycle support because sarms, as far as i know, can still have an effect on blood pressure, cholesterol, prostate, etc. Also, many rc sources sell Tamoxifen Citrate, which is actually weaker than Nolvadex, so if thats the case, 30.4mg is truly 20mg and 15.2mg is truly 10mg. I would check with your source to make sure their tamoxifen is truly 20mg before you go under the recommended dosage lol
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So I'm better off with Nolvadex over the tamoxifen?

Thanks gain for all the info guys. Gonna hammer out details/dosing tomorrow and post; hopefully have it all figured out then.
 
NattyBoy said:
I would definitely run cycle support because sarms, as far as i know, can still have an effect on blood pressure, cholesterol, prostate, etc. Also, many rc sources sell Tamoxifen Citrate, which is actually weaker than Nolvadex, so if thats the case, 30.4mg is truly 20mg and 15.2mg is truly 10mg. I would check with your source to make sure their tamoxifen is truly 20mg before you go under the recommended dosage lol
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Nolvadex is tamoxifen citrate lol...
 
NattyBoy said:
Idk mayne...people on other forums were saying that chit and it made sense to me. Plus irondragon and other rc sources label their nolva like "30.4mg per ml (true 20)"
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Advertising technique, make the competition look like idiots lol
 
NattyBoy said:
Idk mayne...people on other forums were saying that chit and it made sense to me. Plus irondragon and other rc sources label their nolva like "30.4mg per ml (true 20)"
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Because the citrate part of the molecules make up that other 10.4mg per mL, is what I would assume.
 
NattyBoy said:
So wouldnt you want 30.4mg so youd truly be getting 20mg of tamoxifen
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Honestly idk. I've just always been told 20mg/20/10/10 is a good dosage for tamoxifen citrate. AKA Nolvadex.
 
NattyBoy said:
If i ever run nolva for my pct again it will be 40/40/20/20 to be on the safe side
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I'm just gonna run pharm grade clomid from now on
 
NattyBoy said:
I had a hookup for it from a guy getting prescribed it but he isn't getting any more refills so i had to go liquid
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I do not have a hookup like that ha so going overseas
 
I've got a friend who owns a drug store but I've got a feeling she won't be too keen in providing me with it.
I'll have to see what other connections I can dig up.

What about on cycle support? Needed with SARMs?
OL seems to have a good product from what I've read.
 
KetoSpartan said:
I've got a friend who owns a drug store but I've got a feeling she won't be too keen in providing me with it.
I'll have to see what other connections I can dig up.

What about on cycle support? Needed with SARMs?
OL seems to have a good product from what I've read.
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Ask her to hook you up with dat der clomid lmao
 
NattyBoy said:
Ask her to hook you up with dat der clomid lmao
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LOL.

I've got 2 bottles OL Ostar1ne on the way and found Primeval Super LGD for buy one, get one 50% off so I grabbed that. Trying to see if I can find some Ghar1ne too.

I've decided to use the Cardarine and Ostarine as a cut cycle for 8 weeks (12 with PCT).
I'll start the Ostarine at 15mg (assuming ED?) and the Cardarine at 10MG and maybe work up to 15-20mg.
Plan to use OL Aminocare on and Super PCT plus Clomid 50/25/25 and Nolvadex on hand.
 
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