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youngandfree said:
I've got a pool going and I say Iran lobs a missile, doesn't have to be a nuke, or a large scale attack on Israel before our next inauguration day. Provided we have an election. And the attack comes in from the north. Remember Iran funds Hezbollah and Hamas, so even if it doesn't come from Tehran, they can initiate a proxy attack, like they've already done.
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I can see a non nuclear war possible, but only as self defense of their sovereign state as I see Isreal pulling the trigger that starts all of it. Alot of country's are guilty of funding terror groups including the US creating and funding both al-queda (openly admitted today,) and creating ISIS. Isreal created Hamas to create political opposition and division within the Palestine people and weaken them.

I dont agree with any of these countries policies, they are all crazy war mongers.

I dunno though for sure though what happens.
 
Gutterpump said:
I have not once talked about Iran nuking Israel. Not sure why you bring this up, it's not part of our discussion.

Do you know anything about Persian culture, or the elections in Iran? The opposition party was FAR ahead in polls, but ended up far behind come election day. There was mass unrest, mass killing/suppression. The current government forced their way in with assault rifles and blunt force. But perhaps this is all a lie in your eyes, as you don't seem to believe anything or anyone.
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I can't say I know a lot about Persians, but I do know and believe the biggest tragedy in the last 6 years is Obama snubbing the Iranian people marching in the Green movement in 2009 or so. I believe that was the most legitimate and sincere group of people that deserves to have the change they wantes. Instead, he blew them off like they didn't exist, and focused his efforts on the Arab Spring that he and his minions helped create. He facilitated protests and takeover by radical sects of Islam in numerous countries, starting with Egypt.

After that happened, I knew a Coptic Christian whose family fled Egypt years ago. The father was a high profile attorney there and involved in a case where the government tore down the oldest Anglican church I believe. So I asked her if Mubarak was as bad as we are led to believe. She said they had issues to an extent, but said the Muslim Brotherhood was much more dangerous for the Christians. They still have family in Egypt that had lost much of their property.

Funny thing is this girl, who was american, and her father the attorney, ran a sub shop my wife and I frequented. I would have never guessed him to have the past that his daughter spoke so proudly about. Unfortunately one day we went there after church and the place was closed down suddenly. It didn't get a ton of business, so it didn't suprise me.
 
ax1 said:
I can see a non nuclear war possible, but only as self defense of their sovereign state as I see Isreal pulling the trigger that starts all of it. Alot of country's are guilty of funding terror groups including the US creating and funding both al-queda (openly admitted today,) and creating ISIS. Isreal created Hamas to create political opposition and division within the Palestine people and weaken them.

I dont agree with any of these countries policies, they are all crazy war mongers.

I dunno though for sure though what happens.
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As a bible believing Christian, I would say how does the Bible say it plays out.
 
youngandfree said:
As a bible believing Christian, I would say how does the Bible say it plays out.
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Oh ok, Ill respect that.

So the bible has Iran or the Persians launching the wars to end all wars in the end of times or something close to that?
 
The bible said Jews will regain their holy land and will begin to flock back to it. It has happened. The Bible says all nations will come against Israel. That is almost complete, very few nations will truly stand with Israel presently, and I would argue that includes the US. Obama had cronies in Israel actively campaigning against Netanyahu. Egypt is borderline, and Turkey is quickly moving away. Obama has paved the way for Iran to have and develop nukes. John Kerry told Iran last week not to worry, the new tightened up visa program won't include them, they will be able to work around it. Iran last week or so tested a mid range ballistic missile capable of delivering a nuke. A week or so after announcing the nuke deal, Iran said, "oh wow, our source of uranium is suddenly much greater than we ever thought. Or at least told you about."

I'm saying don't ignore the writing on the wall.
 
youngandfree said:
Maybe you've heard of the war of Armageddon? Gog and Magog?
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Ive heard of it but havent read it in detail or know much about it reason I asked.

youngandfree said:
The bible said Jews will regain their holy land and will begin to flock back to it. It has happened. The Bible says all nations will come against Israel. That is almost complete, very few nations will truly stand with Israel presently, and I would argue that includes the US. Obama had cronies in Israel actively campaigning against Netanyahu. Egypt is borderline, and Turkey is quickly moving away. Obama has paved the way for Iran to have and develop nukes. John Kerry told Iran last week not to worry, the new tightened up visa program won't include them, they will be able to work around it. Iran last week or so tested a mid range ballistic missile capable of delivering a nuke. A week or so after announcing the nuke deal, Iran said, "oh wow, our source of uranium is suddenly much greater than we ever thought. Or at least told you about."

I'm saying don't ignore the writing on the wall.
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Yeah its crazy how it happens in front of us. I try to respect all ancient texts either religious or other (to a certain extent that is) alot of them hold the crystal ball into the future. I read a buddhist text from several hundred years ago saying how it all goes down including "world trade centers falling down" and other stuff.
 
thebigt said:
what I find ironic is that jews, muslims, and Christians all worship the SAME GOD of Abraham.
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And if you extend back further, Zoroastrianism also worships the same one God. Most religions have a lot in common. It's a shame that human ego ends up getting involved.
 
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." —Barry Goldwater
 
Gutterpump said:
Apparently you haven't been reading the thread in it's entirety. Sure I've trolled, but when I've been serious in here, it's pretty clear I make a point out of seeing all sides of every coin.

This is in fact one of the reasons why I am a centrist.
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I have been reading. You do a lot of the ad hominem statements, which always equates to holding weak ideas.
 
Merry Christmas all my political friends in here. My new favorite thread!! Thought I posted this last night. Was feeling pretty "festive ", perhaps forgot to send.
 
Dma378 said:
Merry Christmas all my political friends in here. My new favorite thread!! Thought I posted this last night. Was feeling pretty "festive ", perhaps forgot to send.
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I'm PC bro and saying Merry Christmas is excluding and oppressing other religions, you got to say happy holidays to ensure no one oppressed or excluded. ;) Just kidding lol Merry Christmas and happy holidays for everyone else even the Pastafarians!
 
Gutterpump said:
Why's it so warm right now? El Niño or something? Kinda crazy. Definitely not a white Christmas for anyone but the west coast.
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The jet stream is off. Instead of the warm weather being south its on the wrong
Jet stream .
Invalid Link Removed the worse part of all of this is the ocean life doesn't migrate in time and gets trapped in the wrong part of the ocean .its like locking yourself in a freezer in summer.
 
I would like to see what Trump can do. A four year chance at him fighting to make sure (in his mind) he proves he was the most effective president. When was the last time we had a president that was not owned by foreign or local special interests? He'll never be able to deport Mexicans, or steal oil from our trampled enemies. He will piss a lot of the establishment off, both sides of the fence. Aren't you middle classes tired of being told you are only there to pay the bill and stfu, only to see it squandered by people that hate white men? (As seen in any tv commercial) Speaking of which, I just saw an old navy commercial with a male Latino cross dresser dancing in "her" bedroom like a teen princess trying on outfits. This media system in our country really wants our male children to suck cawk. Amazing. What do they gain from this?
 
I woke from my meditation to realize i have been visited by a native American man . He was claiming my choices were good and that Iam on the path to enlightenment . All i wanted for Christmas was a happy family and healthy prosperous life.
 
bighulksmash said:
The jet stream is off. Instead of the warm weather being south its on the wrong
Jet stream .
Invalid Link Removed the worse part of all of this is the ocean life doesn't migrate in time and gets trapped in the wrong part of the ocean .its like locking yourself in a freezer in summer.
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AL Gore said it's global warming.
 
I love it, this is the best winter ever in NY so far. If global warming is caused by carbon (which is a laughable farce) put more carbon in the air and make my living better.
 
Hope you all had a joyful Christmas....if that offends anyone, too bad.

For all you fight fans out there, just ran into this, this has got to be the funniest knockout Ive ever seen!
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spent time with family last few days, shut off the tv and no internet...really happy that when I turned on tv today nothing major had happened!!!
 
bighulksmash said:
Hillary Clinton is leading the democrats obviously. I think cruz will beat out trump long run.
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Hillary and ted cruz were my picks from the beginning. I am going to say many prayers that Hillary Clinton NEVER becomes president of the united states!!
 
bighulksmash said:
Hillary Clinton is leading the democrats obviously. I think cruz will beat out trump long run.
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She also leads the democrats in crime, treason and fraud. As long as she is walking freely, this country has no justice system.
 
ax1 said:
She also leads the democrats in crime, treason and fraud. As long as she is walking freely, this country has no justice system.
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and if we aren't lucky she will be in charge of the justice system.
 
thebigt said:
and if we aren't lucky she will be in charge of the justice system.
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If Hitlery really meant what she said the other day that Donald Trump was "ISIS's best recruiter," then Im 100% positive she would want him to be first in line for next Secretary of State.
 
ax1 said:
If Hitlery really meant what she said the other day that Donald Trump was "ISIS's best recruiter," then Im 100% positive she would want him to be first in line for next Secretary of State.
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She said it because they found ISIS videos with Obama and Bill Clinton in them, not Trump.
 
Remember Benghazi. Her first move after those men died was LIE.
Vote Trump, throw the system a curve. You really think he would care about AAS as much as the RepubliCrats? Big pharma owns red and blue, their lobbyists are on the house steps every day. (Well GNC and Vitamin Shoppe's as well)
 
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