Donald Trump running for president

fox news has distanced themselves from donald trump...there is no way a republican can get nominated let alone elected without fox new's support.

i don't see carson getting the nomination, i really believe it will be ted cruz and that Clinton woman.

GOD HELP US IF H.CLINTON IS ELECTED.....as bad as i think Obama is, i am seriously afraid she would be MUCH, MUCH worse!!!
 
thebigt said:
fox news has distanced themselves from donald trump...there is no way a republican can get nominated let alone elected without fox new's support.

i don't see carson getting the nomination, i really believe it will be ted cruz and that Clinton woman.

GOD HELP US IF H.CLINTON IS ELECTED.....as bad as i think Obama is, i am seriously afraid she would be MUCH, MUCH worse!!!
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I told everyone it was going to be Hilary as president lol I even stated this around the beginning of this thread. If I'm right everyone owes me one supplement :D
 
thebigt said:
fox news has distanced themselves from donald trump...there is no way a republican can get nominated let alone elected without fox new's support.

i don't see carson getting the nomination, i really believe it will be ted cruz and that Clinton woman.

GOD HELP US IF H.CLINTON IS ELECTED.....as bad as i think Obama is, i am seriously afraid she would be MUCH, MUCH worse!!!
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I'm afraid you are correct :( I still feel like Trump is working with her behind the scenes to pave the way for her vote, in exchange for business deals.
 
Gutterpump said:
I'm afraid you are correct :( I still feel like Trump is working with her behind the scenes to pave the way for her vote, in exchange for business deals.
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that actually makes sense....bill Clinton is very politically savvy, and I am sure he is pulling strings!!!

in the end trump is all about the money.
 
Does anyone know the longest timespan where Liberals were in office here in the US? Is this going to be a new record? I'm not well versed on American history.
 
Gutterpump said:
Does anyone know the longest timespan where Liberals were in office here in the US? Is this going to be a new record? I'm not well versed on American history.
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The Liberals of today are nothing of yesterday so its really not possible to correlate the past with present. Thomas Jefferson was a Liberal.

Problem is all political groups get infiltrated by special interests. This one of the reasons why I support a party ban when it comes to elections.
 
CJNator said:
I told everyone it was going to be Hilary as president lol I even stated this around the beginning of this thread. If I'm right everyone owes me one supplement :D
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well lets see...she will have
womens vote
black vote
Hispanic vote
poor and on entitlements vote
muslims vote
atheist vote
unions vote
gay and lesbian vote


who does that leave, lol!!!!
 
ax1 said:
The Liberals of today are nothing of yesterday so its really not possible to correlate the past with present. Thomas Jefferson was a Liberal.

Problem is all political groups get infiltrated by special interests. This one of the reasons why I support a party ban when it comes to elections.
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I definitely agree with you. Trump was also a Liberal once, which makes it hard to believe how extreme he's being right now. It has to be part of a larger game plan.
 
Gutterpump said:
I definitely agree with you. Trump was also a Liberal once, which makes it hard to believe how extreme he's being right now. It has to be part of a larger game plan.
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I can understand though from first hand experience. I voted for Obama, I was very happy about him. Then the greatest gift Obama gave me is that he woke me up to reality.

People change, I was very anti-gun just a decade ago. I supported universal health care, etc......

I cant confirm if Trump is true to his beliefs, the only thing that would prove that is if he won and then I would look at his actual policy (which I heavily dont agree with alot) and if he commits his campaign promises unlike Obama.
 
Otheridstaken said:
Bringing Bill Nye into the discussion is ludicrous. That was my point.
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Bringing evolution into the discussion is ludicrous, shoudnt have even gone there. but when it goes there i will prove my point. Let the people get back to the topic. Drop to BS evolution talk, just gonna cause conflict.
 
thebigt said:
well lets see...she will have
womens vote
black vote
Hispanic vote
poor and on entitlements vote
muslims vote
atheist vote
unions vote
gay and lesbian vote


who does that leave, lol!!!!
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you forgot illegal immigrants or should i say "refugees" , i can almost guarantee they'll be voting even though its "illegal"
 
thebigt said:
well lets see...she will have
womens vote
black vote
Hispanic vote
poor and on entitlements vote
muslims vote
atheist vote
unions vote
gay and lesbian vote


who does that leave, lol!!!!
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I'm someone who doesn't believe voting matters when it comes down to presidents and other things. I stated in the beginning that Hilary was at the secret meeting called the Builderberg meeting(I spelled it wrong I think) along side Obama in 2012. I believe Trump is making the GOP look bad for Sanders and/or Hillary. I believe there will be some voting scandal like Bush and Obama once or if Hillary gets into office. Its sounds like conspiracy but government itself is a conspiracy.
 
thebigt said:
fox news has distanced themselves from donald trump...there is no way a republican can get nominated let alone elected without fox new's support.

i don't see carson getting the nomination, i really believe it will be ted cruz and that Clinton woman.

GOD HELP US IF H.CLINTON IS ELECTED.....as bad as i think Obama is, i am seriously afraid she would be MUCH, MUCH worse!!!
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Damn i didnt see Carson's polls dropped so much, last i looked he was right behind trump.. but even though literally everyone hates clinton, i bet she'll be next president... im thinking through a split republican card, its the easiest way.
 
ax1 said:
I can understand though from first hand experience. I voted for Obama, I was very happy about him. Then the greatest gift Obama gave me is that he woke me up to reality.

People change, I was very anti-gun just a decade ago. I supported universal health care, etc......

I cant confirm if Trump is true to his beliefs, the only thing that would prove that is if he won and then I would look at his actual policy (which I heavily dont agree with alot) and if he commits his campaign promises unlike Obama.
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people do change...I used to buy vodka in half gallon bottles....in my high school days I was a hippie drug user with very liberal ideas.
 
bighulksmash said:
Hell yeah ! Glad u came to ! I was a heavy drinker in my teens as well . Now i wont touch any drugs or alcohol.
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I grew up in the 70's, it doesn't get more liberal than that, lol....sex drugs and rock and roll!!!

I turned 18 just in time to vote for jimmy carter---hey, we all make mistakes!!!
 
123abcabcabc said:
Honestly the baby bloomer era is the root of the problem - America's spinning down of the sh*t well.
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I agree 100%. I have even made a thread about how destructive we baby boomers have been. in my honest opinion, baby boomers sold out in the name of greed!!!
 
123abcabcabc said:
Seeing that man coked out and trippin balls on hallucinogens on stage would have been funny to see.
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no funnier than everyone else in the crowd who were just as stoned---hey man, it was the age of drugs!!!
 
I go to work and miss like 100 replies! I'm surprised this thing hasn't been shut down yet.

Anytime someone starts to argue with me about Creationism vs Evolution, I always ask them about dinosaurs.
 
Dma378 said:
Creationism is dead minus America. But I guess since America is god's chosen country, that's all good.
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Take centuries of illiterate people passing down the word of God, priests misinterpreting the word of God, no actual knowledge of science, and you get Creationism.
 
Dma378 said:
Creationism is dead minus America. But I guess since America is god's chosen country, that's all good.
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im trying to find where you came to the conclusion that America is Gods chosen country....

" God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life. "
 
baxtecal said:
im trying to find where you came to the conclusion that America is Gods chosen country....

" God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life. "
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Well tell that to Mormons.

Bible also says eating shellfish is an abomination. So what?
 
Ah good ol' nationalism; Jesus, bald eagles, and murica'. Lol some people still actually believe the founding fathers were Christians and the constitution is based on the bible.
 
Dma378 said:
Well tell that to Mormons.

Bible also says eating shellfish is an abomination. So what?
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We dont know if that is totally correct, i can (almost) guarantee you God wont send you to hell for eating a shellfish, plus that couldve been something totally different after all the translation and 2000 years.
 
baxtecal said:
We dont know if that is totally correct, i can guarantee you God wont send you to hell for eating a shellfish, plus that couldve been something totally different after all the translation and 2000 years.
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You can guarantee me? Really? How?
 
SFreed said:
I go to work and miss like 100 replies! I'm surprised this thing hasn't been shut down yet.

Anytime someone starts to argue with me about Creationism vs Evolution, I always ask them about dinosaurs.
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Still not sleeping!
 
Dma378 said:
You can guarantee me? Really? How?
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well lets put this to the test. When the end is near and you will know when its near, have that shell fish beside you and eat it, then if you'd like/ if you haven't already, confess to jesus he is your savior and ask him to forgive you and you can see for your self were you end up.

If you wanna play little word games and be that decisive about eating a shell fish then go ahead and risk eternity over that. Im not arguing with you lol.
 
baxtecal said:
im trying to find where you came to the conclusion that America is Gods chosen country....

" God does not play favorites among His people, however, the Bible does tell us that God's chosen people are the Jewish race because they were the ONLY ones to obey Him in lieu of other gods.

Deuteronomy 7:6 says, "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." This does not mean they are automatically "saved" and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God's Son, Jesus. Because of God's Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are "grafted in" and may partake of the Tree of Life. "
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Come on bro....God is all red, white and blue!

j/p
 
CJNator said:
Ah good ol' nationalism; Jesus, bald eagles, and murica'. Lol some people still actually believe the founding fathers were Christians and the constitution is based on the bible.
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The founding father were Deist, they believed in a Creator but not in a certain religion
 
Just thought I'd say this thread has shown a lot of different angles on several subjects. Nice little diversity even amidst the sarcastic, condescending comments. I like you guys. Be a shame if admin shut this down just for a bit of debate. Yeah it can be offensive. But nobody is threatening anybody.
 
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