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Unbiased Ostarine run

Up the taurine to 10g if you have to. It works. You're taking it on an empty stomach too, correct?

Also, I'd recommend you run this for 10-12 weeks. It takes so long to kick in, you want to make it worth it.
 
Off day yesterday.
My pants are fitting pretty tight around my thighs. That's a pretty good sign. I'm gonna try a lot more taurine today and I'll be drinking more then my usual gallon or so of water as well. I know my motivation will be way better without that back pumps. And I will take it on an empty stomach, I haven't done that because I haven't let my stomach get empty haha.
 
Took about 7 grams of taurine and still couldn't run without my back tightening up.

Chest+abs:
Bench 185x5x5
Incline 135x5x5
Cable flies up+lower 40x10x5
Machine flies 70x10x3
Extreme decline sit ups with plate held toward ceiling
Leg lifts outrageous

Pretty good workout
Weight 185.5
 
Guys I need input. I talked with a local bodybuilder today and he mentioned the back pumps sound like pro-hormone sides. What are the odds EPG Ostalean is actually a prohormone? Also I had night sweats a little a couple weeks back. I'm starting to wish I had taken yates84 advice.
 
Guys I need input. I talked with a local bodybuilder today and he mentioned the back pumps sound like pro-hormone sides. What are the odds EPG Ostalean is actually a prohormone? Also I had night sweats a little a couple weeks back. I'm starting to wish I had taken yates84 advice.
You're panicking, stop. I'm using the EPG Ostalean as well and I have no back pumps and it's not even close to as strong as a typical prohormone. I'm more than half way through an 8 week run. Not noticing any sides or real benefits.
 
You're panicking, stop. I'm using the EPG Ostalean as well and I have no back pumps and it's not even close to as strong as a typical prohormone. I'm more than half way through an 8 week run. Not noticing any sides or real benefits.

So what you're saying is you got a sugar pill, and OP got a PH.

Sometimes the world is unfair like that : )

I kid of course. Kind of. Sometimes supp companies get duped unknowingly by suppliers though.

Which is why 3rd party testing is such a beautiful thing.

While it's unlikely, the aforementioned scenario is not impossible either. Most likely just a side of the osta though.
 
So what you're saying is you got a sugar pill, and OP got a PH.

Sometimes the world is unfair like that : )

I kid of course. Kind of. Sometimes supp companies get duped unknowingly by suppliers though.

Which is why 3rd party testing is such a beautiful thing.

While it's unlikely, the aforementioned scenario is not impossible either. Most likely just a side of the osta though.
Haha yes it might be sugar man, who knows. I have some OL stuff that I'll run in the future but so far my Osta experience has been disappointing. I initially had blood pressure concerns but that is all back to normal now.
 
Took about 7 grams of taurine and still couldn't run without my back tightening up.

Chest+abs:
Bench 185x5x5
Incline 135x5x5
Cable flies up+lower 40x10x5
Machine flies 70x10x3
Extreme decline sit ups with plate held toward ceiling
Leg lifts outrageous

Pretty good workout
Weight 185.5

I'm not sure how your diet plan works, but for me, either waiting 3 hours after dinner to take my full taurine dose then going right to bed, or taking all 10g in the middle of the night when I wake up to pee works for back pumps for me. A dose like that helps me sleep a little deeper too.
 
Goooood day. Took over 10mg of taurine throughout the day

Ran 2 miles slight back soreness not too bed

Deadlift
185lbs 3 every minute for 13 minutes
(My grip is so weak gotta work on it)

Barbell curls:
60lbs 10x3
Lat pull downs:
100lbs 10x3
Hammer curls:
25lbs 10x3
Overhand grip barbell curls:
20lbs 10x3
Close grip bench:
135lbs 8x3

185.5 lbs
Diets been okay, not great. I'll be taking 10g of taurine daily now.
 
Goooood day. Took over 10mg of taurine throughout the day

Ran 2 miles slight back soreness not too bed

Deadlift
185lbs 3 every minute for 13 minutes
(My grip is so weak gotta work on it)

Barbell curls:
60lbs 10x3
Lat pull downs:
100lbs 10x3
Hammer curls:
25lbs 10x3
Overhand grip barbell curls:
20lbs 10x3
Close grip bench:
135lbs 8x3

185.5 lbs
Diets been okay, not great. I'll be taking 10g of taurine daily now.

It'll get even better after a few more days. Glad it's working for you!
 
Sleeps been out of sack with work, but foods been on point
Shoulders:
Smith ohp:
90lbsx8x3
50lbsx10x3

Pull ups 3x5 strict slow

Forward barbell raises
30lbs 10x3

Dumbell press:
30lbs 10x3.. Until burnt out

Sumo deadlift high pull
70lb bent bar 10x5

Weight 187.5
Decent workout considering I had no energy. Gotta find more sleep
 
Nice progress man, how much of your gains would you say is muscle?. I'm on a similar track, up about 10 lbs in a month maybe 4 to 5 lbs muscle. I have one of those bf calculators on my scale, but it's not accurate at all.
 
It's hard to tell but I would guess less then half of that is muscle. I fluctuate quite a bit too that was the heaviest I've seen on the scale though. I'll post my yesterday's workout and today's later tonight.
If I've noticed any sides they have been back pumps, possibly decreased endurance that could be attributed to the back thing, and that's about it. I feel like my strength has been good.
 
I'm running osta for the first time right now myself in a deficet though because I'm cutting. I will post on how it works out for me
 
Yesterdays workout
Ran for a mile
Cable curls (wide, and bent)
50lbs 10x5
Cable rope pull down
50lbs 10x5
Dips
15x3
Skull crushers
40lbs 8x3
Pull ups close/reverse grip
8x4

Both of my shoulders hurt a bit. I haven't done anything out of the ordinary to hurt them.
Taking a lot of taurine it seems to help a bit, but the back thing sucks. My diet has not been great and my workouts haven't been great either I've been really busy at work. It's hard to give a real good review of this stuff right now. I'm tired lately, but I've been running hard hours. I need to keep my gym things in the truck to hit different gyms when I need to.
 
Ate taurine pills like skittles today (gels) probably about 12grams total.

Ran for 3 miles at a good pace. Felt good.
Shoulders still hurt but idgaf I wanna do chest

Bench:
135x10
155x10
185x8
185x6
Dumbell flat flies:
30lbs 8x3 (shoulders hurt)
Machine incline press:
60x15
120x10x5
Leg lifts:
20x3
Cable flies:
Lighter weight. Top/middle/ low

Today felt okay even though my shoulders are sore. Idk why but I can work through it
 
Can I go straight from ostarine into a test cycle? I'm wishing I had just done that to begin with. I wouldn't say I'm lethargic but I don't jump out of bed and get sh*t done like I used to. That could be because I've been sore as F too. Any input
 
Can I go straight from ostarine into a test cycle? I'm wishing I had just done that to begin with. I wouldn't say I'm lethargic but I don't jump out of bed and get sh*t done like I used to. That could be because I've been sore as F too. Any input

You could, or could continue the ostarine while on a low dose of test (300mg/week) for some decent gains/recomp and it'll take care of the lethargy too.
 
31 days in. Probably have gained 7-8 lbs. my diet has been decent for the most part. My strength may have gone up but it's hard to say. Back pumps are bad. That alone makes me not like the stuff. My sleep has not been great but I can't say it's from that. I had made a comment a couple weeks back that my skin was clear, I take that comment back.. I have had a few zits that hurt like hell regularly on my back and neck. They are embarrassing and gross. I never have bad skin either. So far I am not impressed.
 
31 days in. Probably have gained 7-8 lbs. my diet has been decent for the most part. My strength may have gone up but it's hard to say. Back pumps are bad. That alone makes me not like the stuff. My sleep has not been great but I can't say it's from that. I had made a comment a couple weeks back that my skin was clear, I take that comment back.. I have had a few zits that hurt like hell regularly on my back and neck. They are embarrassing and gross. I never have bad skin either. So far I am not impressed.

Anything hormonal can and often does cause acne as a side unfortunately.

7-8lbs is a good amount of weight considering osta isn't a bulking agent at all. How much would you say is from lean gains?

Regards,
 
Anything hormonal can and often does cause acne as a side unfortunately.

7-8lbs is a good amount of weight considering osta isn't a bulking agent at all. How much would you say is from lean gains?

Regards,

I don't think much of it is lean. I'm kinda soft, or at least I feel that way right now.
 
IMO the Ostarine wasn't worth it. Waste of time and money for no real advantage. I've slept better since getting off it and the testicle pain I had is gone. These companies should pay you to take it as a "guinea pig".
 
Can I go straight from ostarine into a test cycle? I'm wishing I had just done that to begin with. I wouldn't say I'm lethargic but I don't jump out of bed and get sh*t done like I used to. That could be because I've been sore as F too. Any input

Once my LGD bottle is finished I'll be going right into a prop cycle and then transition to osta. I am not saying it's ok to do this but it is what I am planning.
 
SARMS were supposed to be these great muscle builders with no sides but they seem more like the opposite - plenty of sides with little gains.

Sure.

They will outperform any natty compound. And of course, the sides will increase as the dose does.

You have to keep in mind what these compounds are intended to be used for (pharma utility). Their a:a ratios literally put them in a class of their own.
 
I've been taking Osts 25 mg for about a week and also 25 mg ephedra twice a day. I don't like the way either of these compounds make me feel but it seems like I'm losing fat , gaining muscle hardness but basically staying at the same weight. There is some huge holiday party at work tomorrow after that I'm cutting my calories so low. Once I hit the weight I'm going for (215) I'm stopping this **** and going right to my DS cycle with no thermos. This stuff is making me feel like **** honestly I'm pretty tired all the time but I am still going in the gym harder than ever.

This isn't no mother****ing game
 
This ain't no game
 

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So very confused . I bought Ostarine for a cut cycle thought about 6 weeks at 15 mg.After reading so many bad reviews , not sure it's worth taking Has anyone had a positive experience?
 
I'm on week 5 anafuse+osta rx cycle. Not too bad. Slight back pumps, little bit of lethargy in the am. Strength and size consistently up. Gained 12 or 13 lbs so far, a bit of fat but I'm eating about 1000 over maintenance. Maybe the anafuse counteracts the sides of the osta, or maybe the additional ingredients in the osta rx, not sure but I'm liking it. I will probably run again as more of a recomp in another couple months.
 
So very confused . I bought Ostarine for a cut cycle thought about 6 weeks at 15 mg.After reading so many bad reviews , not sure it's worth taking Has anyone had a positive experience?

10-15mg Osta during a cut would be plenty. It will be more potent and capable than any natty anti-catabolic, but yes it will have sides.
 
So very confused . I bought Ostarine for a cut cycle thought about 6 weeks at 15 mg.After reading so many bad reviews , not sure it's worth taking Has anyone had a positive experience?
Honestly I don't think I would run Ostarine again, by itself. It did nothing positive for me and I would not recommend it.
With that said, different things work for different people and some people are claiming positive results.
I'm never one to fall for placebo effect and am finding that there are fewer and fewer supps that are actually worth buying, more than once to try.
 
So very confused . I bought Ostarine for a cut cycle thought about 6 weeks at 15 mg.After reading so many bad reviews , not sure it's worth taking Has anyone had a positive experience?

Ostarine is a great product when used properly. Keep in mind that people will react differently to various types of compounds. I can honestly say that I enjoy my SARM runs MUCH MORE than I enjoy my PH/DS runs. I am quickly becoming a huge fan of SARM's.

I am running OL LGD right now for the first time (with OL MK-677) and I am loving the results so far. Muscle hardness and definition is up. Vascularity and fullness is up. Also, I am noticeably leaner depite doing only 1 day of cardio in the 2.5 weeks on cycle. I have had zero noticeable side-effects and my libido is probably a touch higher as well.

I have done two previous Ostarine cycles and I was happy with the results of both. The first run I noticed a large drop in libido but I was not using a 'Test' base and I dropped my Estrogen too low with a TD AI (TransForm). Other than that, my joints felt better on cycle and I suffered no noticeable side-effects.

On my second Ostarine cycle, I was thoroughly impressed and much better prepared. I stacked OL Ostarine with Dermacrine (2-3 pumps ED) as my 'Test' base and OL Oliminate (Arimistane) This was ONLY a 30 day run! In those 30 days, I gained 5lbs of mass at the same time as I dropped 2% BF. I lifted 6 days per week and I did fasted cardio in the morning ~ 5 days per week. My goal for the run was to prime my muscles/joints for the DS cycle I was going to be bridging into, and to drop some bodyfat so my results form the second half of my cycle would be more noticeable. I dropped the bodyfat by increasing my work load/capacity and by doing fasted cardio. I did NOT starve my body of calories in hopes of losing bodyfat. If you don't know how to cut properly, you will not see the results you wish to see; Not in the long run anyway. You will see results at first, but the results will stall. You are most likely impairing/damaging your metabolism when this happens. Under maintainence calories is fine, however drasticly reducing calories under maintainence will generally only work in the short term before your body fights back!

In regards to Ostarine only being good for a cut, I don't necessarily believe this to be true. I believe this to be person dependent, in regards to how they respond to SARM's in general, as well as diet and training dependent. I know I can bulk on Ostraine; It would just depend on how much food I ate and how realistic my expectations were to begin with. Of course it would be easier to bulk on SuperDrol and other compounds that were more anabolic in nature, but that goes without saying. Ostarine as a cutter or re-comping agent is certainly well-suited, though.

If you are cutting or trying to drop bodyfat on Ostarine, do it properly. Lower calories in a safe manner AND increase your fasted workload at the same time. You'd also be well-advided to do some reading on pre/intra/post workout nutrient timing, as well as fasted cardio and reverse-dieting, not to mention carb-cycling. These are alll things you should know about if you actually want to cut successfully and have the results last, versus just shedding copious amounts of weight quickly and then gaining it back later because you metabolism is impaired and your diet and nutrition game is sub-par.

The only way you are going to know how YOU respond to Ostarine is to give the product a true and unbiased run. The only way to be unbiased about it is to understand what you need to do to amplify your results. Yes, Ostarine will lower you natural Test production (supression) and so it makes sense to use a base such as Dermacrine to alleviate some of the low Test symptoms. Now, Dermacrine doesn't readily convert to Test (shocker here) but it also can be neuro-stimulatory in other ways and as such can help with feeling lethargic and tired while cycling. Let's not also forget about having ancillaries on hand to control symptoms of unbalanced hormones (such as high estrogen sides), as well as using cycle support supplements to help control high blood pressure, lipid values and maintain proper organ function. By the way, side-effects from anabolic compounds usually arise because the user did not know how his body would respond to said compound, had no idea what his hormonal state was prior to jumping on a hormone-altering compound, or was just ill-prepared and hoping for the best. If you can eliminate as many variables as possible prior to cycling, you will increase you chances of a successful cycle. Knowledge is the best muscle builder I have ever taken. Know what you are taking, why you are taking it (goal) and how to most effectively go about reaching that goal. This is not a game!

In the end, there are way too many variable to factor in when deciding how one person will react to a SARM or any other anabolic compound for that matter. This is why it is necessary to actually use the compound in order to assess it's effectiveness for continual use going forward or cessation of use alltogether. For every person that hates Ostarine and has negative side-effects on the compound, I can guarantee you that you will find a user like myself who has mostly positive things to say about the compound, when used in a smart way with the proper knowledge and preparation. Anybody saying that a particular compound is garbage, without having ever used it or thoroughly researched it, is nothing but a bandwagon jumper in search of the next quickly moving parade. Do your own research and come up with your own answers.
 
Sorry for another long post guys; I guess I just feel compelled to write abouut this stuff sometimes and share my experiences.

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