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Best anabolic for a clean bulk

averagejoe02

averagejoe02

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Looking to put on a clean 10-15lbs but don't wanna run a test only. What would be the best thing to run along side low dose test?
 
Tren. Or skip the test and go for trest and something like epi
 
If you can find epi that would be a good run.
 
500mg Test Cyp 750mg 2 middle weeks
Dbol 3tabs daily
Aromasin 12.5 eod or e3d.
You will see 20lbs easy in 12 weeks. More if you eat right
 
JG93 said:
500mg Test Cyp 750mg 2 middle weeks
Dbol 3tabs daily
Aromasin 12.5 eod or e3d.
You will see 20lbs easy in 12 weeks. More if you eat right
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Lol what?? 12 weeks of dbol?
 
Test Prop,NPp kickstart with Tbol,dbol or maybe even Sd
...cycle history?,stats?
 
175lbs, 5'10", 10%bf
No cycle history I'm a newbie
Was thinking of running test e week 1-12 @ 250mg then throwing in winstrol week 6-12 @ 50 ed to throw on a little more size and shred up. Would that cycle be ideal for my goal of 10 or so lbs and cutting a little bf %?
 
averagejoe02 said:
175lbs, 5'10", 10%bf
No cycle history I'm a newbie
Was thinking of running test e week 1-12 @ 250mg then throwing in winstrol week 6-12 @ 50 ed to throw on a little more size and shred up. Would that cycle be ideal for my goal of 10 or so lbs and cutting a little bf %?
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Test e 10 weeks at 500mg e/w
Winstrol weeks 8-12 at 50mg ed then pct
 
Tr3st and epi man. Throw in 3 weeks of sd too, and you'll be huge☺
Skip the sd if it seems too much. Trest and epi will probably be enough.
 
Forget what everyone is saying. IM trest is superior to everything mentioned in here, and is amazing in any cycle. Just have a strong AI, watch the carbs and it'll be great for a lean bulk. IM trest and epistane is an amazing lean bulker. Far better than tren.

If you really want crazy results though:

Trest ace
Mast ace
Epistane

for ~8 weeks.
 
Why don't you wanna run test solo? If you've never done a solo test cycle before then how do you know it's not what you want? How will you know if the sides are coming from the test or the half dozen other orals you're taking?
 
Didn't you just start another thread asking why you have headaches @ 150mg of clomid? You said you have no AAS history in post #8 of this thread, so why are you taking 150mg of clomid? ( Invalid Link Removed)

Not trying to bash you here but do more research before taking AAS. You can easily get your "10 or so lbs in 12 weeks" without AAS.
 
Audioph1x said:
Didn't you just start another thread asking why you have headaches @ 150mg of clomid? You said you have no AAS history in post #8 of this thread, so why are you taking 150mg of clomid? ( Invalid Link Removed)

Not trying to bash you here but do more research before taking AAS. You can easily get your "10 or so lbs in 12 weeks" without AAS.
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What the hell are you eating/lifting that's getting you 10-12 lbs of lbm in 12 weeks without aas???
 
Audioph1x said:
Didn't you just start another thread asking why you have headaches @ 150mg of clomid? You said you have no AAS history in post #8 of this thread, so why are you taking 150mg of clomid?

Not trying to bash you here but do more research before taking AAS. You can easily get your "10 or so lbs in 12 weeks" without AAS.
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Ran a var only cycle for 8 weeks so basically no cycle history lol
 
averagejoe02 said:
Usually ppl just get torn up when thy post about oral only cycle so I just excluded it
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I only do oral cycles man, and really like it. If you read up, and know what you are doing, it's no problem to do 3 oral cycles a year, and still stay healthy. Epi, trest, sd and tren are all oral, and I dare to say that they produce pretty decent results. Just make sure your pct and time between cycles are calculated, and it will be great:-)
 
booneman77 said:
What the hell are you eating/lifting that's getting you 10-12 lbs of lbm in 12 weeks without aas???
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I am 2 lbs shy of gaining 10lbs in 12 weeks without AAS. I have 2 more lbs to gain by dec 31. I maintain 15% estimated BF. This is with low t levels. I just started TRT but I don't consider that AAS because it will raise my T to a normal persons t level.
I mostly ate slightly above maint and a lot above maint on a handful occasions.
 
datsthat said:
I am 2 lbs shy of gaining 10lbs in 12 weeks without AAS. I have 2 more lbs to gain by dec 31. I maintain 15% estimated BF. This is with low t levels. I just started TRT but I don't consider that AAS because it will raise my T to a normal persons t level.
I mostly ate slightly above maint and a lot above maint on a handful occasions.
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10lb of lbm in 12 weeks...??? I'm skeptical at best here man. That's ridiculous if you truly did. 10pb period I would believe but without any or get very minimal fat gain is basically physiologically impossible.
 
booneman77 said:
10lb of lbm in 12 weeks...??? I'm skeptical at best here man. That's ridiculous if you truly did. 10pb period I would believe but without any or get very minimal fat gain is basically physiologically impossible.
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Is he using weight gainers or any kind of calorie loading? Ive never hear of this either. Id be natty if that were the case.
 
Still not sure why you don't want to do test solo. It seems like it would be ideal given your goals, a simple test only injectable cycle would be easiest in terms of sides as long as you use low dose arimidex or exemestane a long with it, not to mention it is cost effective which may or may not matter to you.

Some of the cycles suggested here are a bit much and needlessly complicated. If this is your first time pinning, test only is pretty idiot proof and will give you the gains you want, don't make it needlessly complicated by adding other substances. Trest aromatizes into a very potent estrogen which might be hard to manage if you don't know how much your body aromatizes androgens and what AI dose your body likes. If you take tren you need to know how to manage prolactin, if you take epi you might have to worry about rebound estrogen issues. Stick with just test @500mg/wk, eat and train right and you won't regret it.

^Yeah, there must be some fat gain in there, the most weight I have put on 15lbs in 6 weeks but it definitely wasn't all lbm. Gaining ten pounds of true muscle in three months without gear is pretty much impossible (even with gear that would take a lot of work) unless you have never lifted before and get crazy noob gains.
 
bighulksmash said:
Is he using weight gainers or any kind of calorie loading? Ive never hear of this either. Id be natty if that were the case.
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Nope, no weight gainers....just good ole whole foods with emphasis on HIGH protein. I am sure couple lbs out of my 8 lbs gain so far is water and fat. I worked very hard to gain clean weight. Maybe the reason for my gain is due to newbie gains? I started working out in March of this year after 10+ years of doing nothing.
 
uprightrows said:
Still not sure why you don't want to do test solo. It seems like it would be ideal given your goals, a simple test only injectable cycle would be easiest in terms of sides as long as you use low dose arimidex or exemestane a long with it, not to mention it is cost effective which may or may not matter to you.

Some of the cycles suggested here are a bit much and needlessly complicated. If this is your first time pinning, test only is pretty idiot proof and will give you the gains you want, don't make it needlessly complicated by adding other substances. Trest aromatizes into a very potent estrogen which might be hard to manage if you don't know how much your body aromatizes androgens and what AI dose your body likes. If you take tren you need to know how to manage prolactin, if you take epi you might have to worry about rebound estrogen issues. Stick with just test @500mg/wk, eat and train right and you won't regret it.

^Yeah, there must be some fat gain in there, the most weight I have put on 15lbs in 6 weeks but it definitely wasn't all lbm. Gaining ten pounds of true muscle in three months without gear is pretty much impossible (even with gear that would take a lot of work) unless you have never lifted before and get crazy noob gains.
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Ahhhh yes this is an important fact. If he's new to cycling, then test solo is perfectly fine and will work wonders!

Definitely don't touch tren or trest! Not for a long while.
 
Gutterpump said:
Ahhhh yes this is an important fact. If he's new to cycling, then test solo is perfectly fine and will work wonders!

Definitely don't touch tren or trest! Not for a long while.
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I don't get why newbies to AAS go for Tren right away. What else is there to look forward to?
 
datsthat said:
Nope, no weight gainers....just good ole whole foods with emphasis on HIGH protein. I am sure couple lbs out of my 8 lbs gain so far is water and fat. I worked very hard to gain clean weight. Maybe the reason for my gain is due to newbie gains? I started working out in March of this year after 10+ years of doing nothing.
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you may have had hi testosterone that would help a lot !!!1
 
Trest as in olmpus labs uk? Isn't this an oral prohormone?
 
I'm really hoping for some trest-cyp in the future, would be amazing. Same with dienolone-cyp, if possible. My two favorite compounds with my 2 favorite esters, but as far as I know, these don't exist yet.
 
datsthat oral trest is actually an active oral steroid but it's sold as a "prohormone." Oral and TD trest are both legit legal steroids.
The problem with oral is the incredibly short half life, TD is longer but IM trest is best as others have said
I personally haven't tried any of them but oral and TD will both be a part of my next cycle
 
They both rock and are very versatile with other compounds. I loved the oral for pwo and the TD for the steady half life
 
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