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Decided to log my cycle

Maybe I'll do a gram once I come off the tren but I've read to keep test minimal while on tren and that helps keep the tren sides lower. My test is rated at 300mg/mL so I could just do 300mg/week until I drop the tren.

Alot of people will also tellyou to run the Tren higher than test on this one . So keep it the way u have it .
 
Alot of people will also tellyou to run the Tren higher than test on this one . So keep it the way u have it .

Alright cool, that preserves my test stash more so that works for me
 
Any benefits to running 10mg osta the entire 20 weeks? Lol
 
So I finally found a hookup for HCG, but since I've already started clomid what should I do? Just skip the HCG? Stop clomid while I take HCG? Take them simultaneously?
 
HCG should have been before PCT bro. No HCG in PCT. Just keep going. Save the HCG for that next beast cycle ahahaha.
 
So I finally found a hookup for HCG, but since I've already started clomid what should I do? Just skip the HCG? Stop clomid while I take HCG? Take them simultaneously?

Imo do some research. Tbh id blast hcg on first day pct some guys blast 10,000 ius . Not saying do it . But if u blast hcg try to hit it heavey on first day of pct. It will make your balls hit the ground running.
 
Lol, actually now that I think about it ahaha, maybe I didn't word that quite right lol.

On another note, I have PM'd you both an article about HCG use.
 
Lol, actually now that I think about it ahaha, maybe I didn't word that quite right lol.

On another note, I have PM'd you both an article about HCG use.

Haha got it bro . When i did a gram of test e for 8 weeks i had atrophy bad like literally no testes in my sack . Did 5000 iu hcg first day pct ran clomid at 100mg phrama grade , then 2 weeks later it began to fix itself. Blasted another 5000 iu . Did 6 weeks on clomid at 100 . I will never pin that much test again i was young "20" and very uneducated. These suggestions came from my endo at the time.
 
HCG should have been before PCT bro. No HCG in PCT. Just keep going. Save the HCG for that next beast cycle ahahaha.

That's what I wanted to do, but my buddy didn't get back to me until just a couple days ago and I don't have any test left to keep going until I get the HCG.
 
Haha got it bro . When i did a gram of test e for 8 weeks i had atrophy bad like literally no testes in my sack . Did 5000 iu hcg first day pct ran clomid at 100mg phrama grade , then 2 weeks later it began to fix itself. Blasted another 5000 iu . Did 6 weeks on clomid at 100 . I will never pin that much test again i was young "20" and very uneducated. These suggestions came from my endo at the time.

My atrophy is pretty bad as well which is why I wanted to still utilize HCG.
 
Thats a good idea !! How were your gains off this last run ?

I'm still at 215-220 which is what I've been at since I came off dbol, so I've gained a solid 15 at least. However I still have 5 weeks of pct to get through... Hoping I don't lose much
 
I'm still at 215-220 which is what I've been at since I came off dbol, so I've gained a solid 15 at least. However I still have 5 weeks of pct to get through... Hoping I don't lose much

Its def a game of intensity during pct . Eat good work hard and sleep an extra few hts a day . ill link you a vid that helped me alot its short but informative.
 
Its def a game of intensity during pct . Eat good work hard and sleep an extra few hts a day . ill link you a vid that helped me alot its short but informative.

Thank you sir. I changed up my workout program but it maintains the intensity I had on cycle so hopefully it will be good for me. Still eating big but 80% clean
 
You put in some hard work bro , you deserve those results! !!!good effin job bam bam !

Thanks man! I'm trying to figure out what to do while I'm saving up for the next cycle lol. I don't wanna have to be 100% natty for several months :(
 
My strength is fading FAST. This sucks.
 
I feel ya bro. I lose a ton of strength coming off on chest and shoulder pressing moves. Still maintaining and gaining on pulls and squats. It's weird.

Yeah the big ones I've noticed are bench variations and shoulder press, and my squat yesterday was miserable. Usually murder 4 sets of 315 for 8 reps each, yesterday warm ups were feeling heavy so I did 275 for 12, 295 for 10 (barely), then 2 sets of 275 for 12. I don't think I would've gotten 8 with 315 if I had tried it.
I think a big reason behind this is my huge decrease in water retention. Coming off deca and test AND starting letrozole really depleted me. I feel flat and small all day every day.
Except back day. Back day is good.
 
Yeah the big ones I've noticed are bench variations and shoulder press, and my squat yesterday was miserable. Usually murder 4 sets of 315 for 8 reps each, yesterday warm ups were feeling heavy so I did 275 for 12, 295 for 10 (barely), then 2 sets of 275 for 12. I don't think I would've gotten 8 with 315 if I had tried it.
I think a big reason behind this is my huge decrease in water retention. Coming off deca and test AND starting letrozole really depleted me. I feel flat and small all day every day.
Except back day. Back day is good.

Mine faded coming off test . Until i blasted hcg.
 
On I was repping 225 on Incline for 9. Yesterday 185 x 7 WTF is that? It was after OHP and Dips, but still...embarr
 
On I was repping 225 on Incline for 9. Yesterday 185 x 7 WTF is that? It was after OHP and Dips, but still...embarr

Lol yeah. Started today's push workout off with close grip bench. Normally can do 4 sets with 225 for 12 with no problem. Today it was 12, 10, 8 then lowered to 205 and hit 12. Smh.
 
So I realized yesterday that I fcuked the first week up. The clomid bottle is 70mL and 35mg/mL and for some reason my mind mixed things up and I was thinking there were 70mg in each mL. So I have been taking 35mg the first week instead of the 70 I was planning on doing. Ugh I feel like an idiot.
 
So I realized yesterday that I fcuked the first week up. The clomid bottle is 70mL and 35mg/mL and for some reason my mind mixed things up and I was thinking there were 70mg in each mL. So I have been taking 35mg the first week instead of the 70 I was planning on doing. Ugh I feel like an idiot.

You will be fine imo . Just run an extra week if u can.
 
Yeah I might blast 105mg (actually 105mg, not the small amount I was taking before) another 3 days again just to try to make up for what I messed up on
 
I wanna try trest but not sure where I'd use it. Could I use it 50-100mg during my SARMs bridge before my big cycle? Or should I just say F it and stick with what I've got. I definitely don't need to add it into my next cycle, it's already pretty stacked.

Opinions?
 
I wanna try trest but not sure where I'd use it. Could I use it 50-100mg during my SARMs bridge before my big cycle? Or should I just say F it and stick with what I've got. I definitely don't need to add it into my next cycle, it's already pretty stacked.

Opinions?

If i were you , id do trest / dmz . We have some sublingual dmz coming out would go good with derma or oral trest.
 
If i were you , id do trest / dmz . We have some sublingual dmz coming out would go good with derma or oral trest.
Who's we? I just already have a bunch of sarms stockpiled and figured I could use some to hold me over between heavier cycles since they cost much more money that I don't have.
Whats your next stack?

20 weeks test/eq with 6 weeks tbol and tren ace to kick start, X weeks winstrol to finish and run test an extra 2 weeks
 
Who's we? I just already have a bunch of sarms stockpiled and figured I could use some to hold me over between heavier cycles since they cost much more money that I don't have.


20 weeks test/eq with 6 weeks tbol and tren ace to kick start, X weeks winstrol to finish and run test an extra 2 weeks

Phwsupplements
That cycle looks bad ass !!! Your gonna pass me in the bulk dept!!!
 
Phwsupplements
That cycle looks bad ass !!! Your gonna pass me in the bulk dept!!!

Hahaha I'm hoping to crack 240... Should be easily doable as long as my diet is in check and I'm loading up on them kcals
My thoughts are with tren at the beginning and winny at the end it'll be a pretty lean bulk
 
Your bf% is great ! Tren ace it all the way haha . Imo tren builds better than winny . Winny is good for conditioning.

Do you think 6 weeks of tren ace both at the beginning and the end would be better? That would leave 8 weeks in the middle to run just eq and high test, then drop test back down to hit that tren ace at the end.
Winny still sounds good though because by the time I start it, it will probably be the end of summer/beginning of fall. Just in time to potentially do a show
 
Do you think 6 weeks of tren ace both at the beginning and the end would be better? That would leave 8 weeks in the middle to run just eq and high test, then drop test back down to hit that tren ace at the end.
Winny still sounds good though because by the time I start it, it will probably be the end of summer/beginning of fall. Just in time to potentially do a show

Good idea try and do the eq b4 the tren .
Winny at the end would work . If your eating way over to gain it will help your bf get back down to low numbers.
 
Good idea try and do the eq b4 the tren .
Winny at the end would work . If your eating way over to gain it will help your bf get back down to low numbers.

Well I was going to start tren and eq at the same time, run the tren for 6 weeks with eq and lower test, then when the tren drops, bump the test up high while I run eq and test solo, then add winny in 8-9 weeks later to run it the last 5-6 weeks of the cycle.
I've always heard winny works better with lower body fat anyway?
 
Been thinking about running tren ace somewhere in my SARMs run instead of in the test/tbol/eq.
Thinking of using the tren as a kicker or a finisher to the sarms. I have enough test to run it for the whole six weeks of tren and then I'm getting TD and oral trest, and that can replace the test when i drop it and the tren. As for sarms I have rad, LGD, and osta. I also have MK and GW and will probably use those.
 
Hey guys. PCT is going well, but have lost weight and strength.
It's gonna be hard to hold off for 6 weeks between PCT and next cycle though, especially since I calculated that if I start the day after I end PCT I'd finish the cycle the week before my spring break and the week following my birthday! Ugh so tempting.
Current plan:
Weeks 1-4 RAD
Weeks 1-7 LGD
Weeks 1-8 Tr3st and DermaTr3st
Weeks 8-15 150mg test E
Weeks 8-17 50mg EOD test P
Weeks 9-14 300mg tren A
Weeks 9-14 GW 501516
Weeks 1-forever MK 677

Before I start I'm going to have a stockpile of cycle supports, legit AIs, and I want to grab some HCG as well to start along with the injectables.
 
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