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7.4 free test , i know its low but is it too low to start a SARM cycle?

justjake

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looking to do an 8 week ostrine and cardarine cycle my libido is ok and I can get erections but my free test is 7.4 which is on the pretty low end especially for someone in their early 20's.

1-8 Ostrine 20mg
cardine 15mg 1-8
OTC test booster throught pct 1-12

pct

aromasin weeks 1-12
clomid 50/35/35/35?
 
Imho . You should fix the low test first. I would run Clomid before your cycle for 4 weeks then wait 3 weeks and get bloods drawn again . You may have an underlying health condition.
 
running another cycle will compound your problems. What was your bloodwork prior to the one that registered 7.4 free test? you need basline bloodwork to compare to.
 
i ran ostrine 20mg 12 weeks
aromasin 12.5 EOD 1-16
clomid 12-16 50/35/35/35
Natty test boosters thoughout

I feel pretty good and i can get erections just a little tough sometimes.

Dont have pre bloods cause it was never an issue but i shoulda.
 
justjake said:
looking to do an 8 week ostrine and cardarine cycle my libido is ok and I can get erections but my free test is 7.4 which is on the pretty low end especially for someone in their early 20's.

1-8 Ostrine 20mg
cardine 15mg 1-8
OTC test booster throught pct 1-12

pct

aromasin weeks 1-12
clomid 50/35/35/35?
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Free testosterone will increase withe the usage of Ostarine (the total testosterone will decrease).
I recommend to do a longer break between SARM cycles. They are still research chemicals.
 
T-Bone said:
How would anyone know it's "low" if you don't give us the reference range for your lab?. In my opinion your too young to be running anabolics anyway.
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oh i thought you ment prior free test ranges..

here it is

9.3- 26.5

i was 7.4

I dont feel shut down. I just had a physique cometition which didnt use any sarms to cut with the last 2 months but i was gaining muscle before the last month when i then dropped calories pretty low to really cut down.

sorry bout that
 
That's barely low. I mean you might want to wait a bit longer, do another pct for 3 weeks or so and re-test. How long ago did you do that cycle?. The bro-science rule is time off=time on + Pct.
 
It sounds like you need a good break from hormonal compounds, along with a clomid restart. That's what I would do anyways. Doctor's will always be the best resource in that regard. Atleast you will get pharma Clomiphene.

Also, 16 weeks of Aromasin EOD, and for Ostarine? Wow!

Keep in mind that a hard cut for competition can tank your test levels as well so you have a lot of things going on there.

I definitely don't recommend another cycle right now but if you do go that route, I'd make sure you have a solid 'test' base or risk 8 weeks of zero libido or severely lowered libido.
 
i dont cylcle steroids just sarms"twice" and epi twice but i dont and never will cycle steroids

also its pretty common for one to run an AI that long.

but year 9 weeks its the most someone should run ostrine for future reference if anyone wants to do it.
 
justjake said:
i dont cylcle steroids just sarms"twice" and epi twice but i dont and never will cycle steroids

also its pretty common for one to run an AI that long.

but year 9 weeks its the most someone should run ostrine for future reference if anyone wants to do it.
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Epistane is a steroid. Also the only difference between a SARM and a steroid is a SARM is selective.
 
yeah, wow, my grammer was bad last post. I ment to say is ive done epi twice and lost all my gains during pct and I will never cycle a steroids again. I'm just going to do SARMS when i can and yes i know they can be comparable. I'm just never touching stuff like epi/test only going to try SARMS from now on. Sounds like I'm contradicting myself but yea .
 
justjake said:
i dont cylcle steroids just sarms"twice" and epi twice but i dont and never will cycle steroids

also its pretty common for one to run an AI that long.

but year 9 weeks its the most someone should run ostrine for future reference if anyone wants to do it.
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Hey, if you feel better cycling unapproved research chemicals over cycling steroids, do what you feel is best. Just remember they are doing the same or similar things but work in a different way. People think SARMS are safe because they come in a cute little bottle. They do mess with your endocrine systems, just as steroids do. Recovery for some is easier, but not always.

I did not advocate that you run steroids. I put 'Test' in quotation marks to indicate a supplement that can act to help with low T sypmtoms while not actually being Test. I did not mean injectable Test, hence the quotation marks. You may need/want to supplement what will probably end up being a low libido on another cycle. I would recommend Dermacrine. It doesn't convert to Test at a high degree but it works in other ways as well.

If by epi you meant Epiandrosterone, that is a PH and can also be used as a base for an ostarine cycle.

Yes, it is common to see people run Exemestane for many weeks at a time but I have not seen anybody run 16 weeks of it for an Ostarine cycle. If you are not prone to gyno, that is very much overkill.
 
Take nothing hormonal for atleast 5 years. You are young, your hpta will recover in time provide no underlying issues.
 
justjake said:
could the ostrine from olmpius labs be laced with a ph? or is that a crazy though?
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Anything is possible, but I highly doublt it considering OL and OL UK have 3rd party testing. Do they test every single batch? I don't know.

Do other companies spike with PH? I've heard yes, but I have no proof.

Do some companies sell PH as SARMs? I've heard yes, but I have no proof.

Does ones side effects when taking SARMs identical to PH side effects? If some one answers yes, then I say the the chances of PH are much higher.
 
datsthat said:
Anything is possible, but I highly doublt it considering OL and OL UK have 3rd party testing. Do they test every single batch? I don't know.

Do other companies spike with PH? I've heard yes, but I have no proof.

Do some companies sell PH as SARMs? I've heard yes, but I have no proof.

Does ones side effects when taking SARMs identical to PH side effects? If some one answers yes, then I say the the chances of PH are much higher.
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Yeah ive only used OL ostrine

just bought some more ostr1ne and cardar1ne for my next go around. Did they stop making these products because they are not on its actual website just amazon and others?

I feel the products should be fine, I just would rather buy from a supp company instead of a RC company because at least there are standards and 3rd party testing "hopefully"

But i can get a doctors appoint for a little over 3months and I was just gonna rune these two things but having second thoughts.
 
justjake said:
Yeah ive only used OL ostrine

just bought some more ostr1ne and cardar1ne for my next go around. Did they stop making these products because they are not on its actual website just amazon and others?

I feel the products should be fine, I just would rather buy from a supp company instead of a RC company because at least there are standards and 3rd party testing "hopefully"

But i can get a doctors appoint for a little over 3months and I was just gonna rune these two things but having second thoughts.
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I'd save homonal for later use, but it is your choice and I will not look down on you if you choose to use AS LONG AS YOU'VE DONE YOUR RESEARCH AND ACCEPT THE RISK INVOLVED.

most companies are no longer selling SARMs because from what I understand the owner of the rights are strongly suggesting that they stop selling and lawsuites. I could be wrong. There are few threads that talked about this.
 
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