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First Cycle Help

AndrewMcD

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Hey guys!

So I've been a longtime lurker on here and believe I'm ready to take the next step.

I have never run any type of steroid, PH, or SARM, so if I am being honest I'm a bit nervous and intimidated, but also super stoked and ready to absolutely kill it. I just wanted to post a cycle plan here to make sure I have everything 100% locked it. All feedback and changes would be so appreciated. I was thinking of running LGD for my first run. Would this be the best logical introduction to the non-natty side?

I'm about 6'1 190 with 11% BF.

Here's what I was thinking.

LGD 4/4/4/8/8/8
OL Eliminate 2/2/2/2/2/2
Dermacrine 3 pumps a day.
EP1C Unleashed 2 caps a day.


Started Evomuse Myo Elite a fews weeks ago so I would just continue this at 8 caps a day.


PCT:
Clomid 50/25/25
PES Erase Pro + 2 caps a day for entire month after.
Evomuse Testruction.
I have sort of a homade pct natural cocktail for liver health.

I guess my biggest questions...do I need to run an AI like Erase Pro + while on cycle or something like AR1MACARE PRO? Should I run a natty test booster during the cycle and during PCT? Also, how should I feel? I have no idea what to expect. Especially more than anything I'm nervous about the testicular shrinkage as I'm pretty active in the bedroom but do not have a girlfriend If you fellas catch my drift haha.

Thank you guys so much. Can't wait to get this going!
 
I wouldnt bother with the eliminate, dermacrine, or epic on cycle... you should have a cycle supprot thought for general health (CEL cycle assist is pretty much the standard around here). YOu wont need an ai or a test base with LGD (the test base wont help the lethargy from the logs ive seen here) and the epi is kinda pointless with a stronger compound. Save the epi for pct.

in pct, you should go 4 weeks, 50/50/25/25 and can can run epro, but you don't "need" it, and def not at double the dose. If anything, I would use your epic unleashed here, and maybe add some reduce xt for cortisol control. Im a big fan of adding natty anabolics in pct as they help the transition a lot while your hormones recover
 
booneman77 said:
I wouldnt bother with the eliminate, dermacrine, or epic on cycle... you should have a cycle supprot thought for general health (CEL cycle assist is pretty much the standard around here). YOu wont need an ai or a test base with LGD (the test base wont help the lethargy from the logs ive seen here) and the epi is kinda pointless with a stronger compound. Save the epi for pct.

in pct, you should go 4 weeks, 50/50/25/25 and can can run epro, but you don't "need" it, and def not at double the dose. If anything, I would use your epic unleashed here, and maybe add some reduce xt for cortisol control. Im a big fan of adding natty anabolics in pct as they help the transition a lot while your hormones recover
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So you're saying not even high doses 4-as **** or trest would help with lethargy from lgd?
 
Kickstart7 said:
So you're saying not even high doses 4-as **** or trest would help with lethargy from lgd?
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Edit: High dosed 4-ad or trest wouldn't help with lethargy?
 
Kickstart7 said:
So you're saying not even high doses 4-as **** or trest would help with lethargy from lgd?
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Edit: High dosed 4-ad or trest wouldn't help with lethargy?
 
Kickstart7 said:
Edit: High dosed 4-ad or trest wouldn't help with lethargy?
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If you look in DMA's log, he and 3 others were all running it with dermacrine, one a ph (forget which), and then one even real inj test and none of them could shake the lethargy starting week 4 and beyond. IIRC all 3 dropped the lGD earlier than planned due to it.
 
booneman77 said:
If you look in DMA's log, he and 3 others were all running it with dermacrine, one a ph (forget which), and then one even real inj test and none of them could shake the lethargy starting week 4 and beyond. IIRC all 3 dropped the lGD earlier than planned due to it.
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They must be doing high doses maybe, I'll check it out. I ran it for 9 weeks and never had any side effects.
 
I used epiandro for my LGD cycle and lethargy and libido were not even close to issues.
 
Kickstart7 said:
They must be doing high doses maybe, I'll check it out. I ran it for 9 weeks and never had any side effects.
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No they were all using standard doses and even tapered down to try to help but no luvk
 
Did you get bloods or anything after your cycle? How was your pct ? Mine was decent but never got bloods.
 
No bloods unfortunately. PCT was Clomid, OL Eliminate, Epi 2.0 combined with Anafuse.
 
mountainman33 said:
No bloods unfortunately. PCT was Clomid, OL Eliminate, Epi 2.0 combined with Anafuse.
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Do you at least feel like everything is back to normal or even better?
 
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