SARMs as test base?

georgetown

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Will any sarms help with lethargy and other sides a test base usually covers or is it pointless? Still considering epiandro as a base but was wondering if anybody has had any experience
 
georgetown said:
Clomid and sup3r pct plus tribulus
Hawthorne berry pre load to cycle
Lgi damage control
Plus addititional 500 mg tudca
Taurine
Joint supp
Im 21
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What're your stats out of curiosity? And as a test base I might consider using trest if or high dosed 4-AD if you're not gyno prone. I personally haven't used them but on a compound like msten you might want to consider them depending on your dosing. I know injectable test will be suggested but it doesn't seem like you want to go that route and I understand it's easier not to. Idk if I'd suggest anything else, I used stano at 1gram on my DMZ cycle and I was still struggling a little. As far as my understanding those two would be the best test base alternatives to test itself.


EDIT: didn't realize you were cutting, both test bases (especially trest) will most likely result in water retention. To combat this you could add a nice and powerful AI. If you'd rather go the epiandro or stank route I'd dose them a little higher due to msten's suppressive nature.
 
Kickstart7 said:
What're your stats out of curiosity? And as a test base I might consider using trest if or high dosed 4-AD if you're not gyno prone. I personally haven't used them but on a compound like msten you might want to consider them depending on your dosing. I know injectable test will be suggested but it doesn't seem like you want to go that route and I understand it's easier not to. Idk if I'd suggest anything else, I used stano at 1gram on my DMZ cycle and I was still struggling a little. As far as my understanding those two would be the best test base alternatives to test itself.
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5'7 160 13 bf estimate i dont want another methyl so trest is out 4ad is an option but i dont like the water retention so most likely will run epiandro with hex and msten. When you say you were struggling you mean with gyno or lethargy/libido?
 
georgetown said:
5'7 160 13 bf estimate i dont want another methyl so trest is out 4ad is an option but i dont like the water retention so most likely will run epiandro with hex and msten. When you say you were struggling you mean with gyno or lethargy/libido?
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I gotcha, like I said maybe 4-AD with a good AI. I was struggling with libido and lethargy. My lifts felt great but before and after I was pretty down and out. Everyone reacts differently though, it's just a thought.

What're you dosing the msten at?
 
Kickstart7 said:
I gotcha, like I said maybe 4-AD with a good AI. I was struggling with libido and lethargy. My lifts felt great but before and after I was pretty down and out. Everyone reacts differently though, it's just a thought.

What're you dosing the msten at?
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True, msten 10 mg weeks 1-2 may bump to 20 during 2nd then 20 till week 4
 
Kickstart7 said:
I gotcha, like I said maybe 4-AD with a good AI. I was struggling with libido and lethargy. My lifts felt great but before and after I was pretty down and out. Everyone reacts differently though, it's just a thought.

What're you dosing the msten at?
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Would topical stano or 4 DHEA outshine oral?
 
BlockBuilder said:
Would topical stano or 4 DHEA outshine oral?
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I suppose it would but I'd have to read up on them. Usually dermal application leads to better bioavailability but I'll be honest I'm not sure.
 
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