First Pinning Cycle Log

I took the day off today. My whole body was sore and I've been pretty tired all day. I will hopefully get in the gym tomorrow if I feel better. I need to get a tennis ball or foam roller. I only have baseballs here and I think that may be a little too hard lol


thatguy1234 said:
your back is looking much, much thicker dude.. look at the angle of your lats guy. have the "wife" take a back progress photo.
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Thanks man! That's good to hear, it's one thing I really wanted to improve. I don't really have any good back starting pictures but I definitely need to get some now.
 
Pinned Tren in the right glute tonight. My right hamstring has been cramping since I finished the injection.. Lol also, the past two pins have hurt. Painful PIP from the last injection, similar to my very first injections. This one tonight stung going in. Nothing I can't deal with, just stating what's happening!
 
Yeah, the PIP is a funny thing. Comes and goes, no real rhyme nor reason. I started doing a bit of prop to supplement my enth and I expected that to hurt and it did but since then it has stopped but the enth gives me a bit of PIP which it never really did in the first place? Weird.
 
You're going in the same exact spot each time? Why not move it around a little?

I've hit a slightly different spot in my glutes and quads each time - but I guess I have that luxury with quads as big as mine :P
 
Quads aren't as bad because I move around a lot more and can see it better. I try to move it around with each one but it's like in the glute I hit the exact same spot every time no matter what I guess lol
 
Man, we probably should have stuck with the SARMS Triple Stack - we'd be huge and shredded by now without all this drama :bow28:
 
Did somebody say SARMS Triple Stack? I ran it, also made my package 4 inches longer and I can read minds now. Stuff's amazing.
 
Sleep seems to be off and on. I got a good nights sleep last night and I don't remember waking up any. I'm having more dreams or remembering them better, but nothing crazy vivid unless I just can't remember. I still only remember bits and pieces of them though.
 
Idk why you guys mess around with steroids and SARMs and stuff when you can easily and legally get creatine. Equally effective, healthy, no side effects!
 
Ending the second week of Tren and no sides really.. BP is higher but I only take meds for it when it gives me a bad headache. Maybe some extra anxiety, sleep has been off and on, no night sweats yet, no Tren cough. I will probably give it another week at 400mg and then raise it to 500-600mg. I'm not even sure how many weeks I've been on anymore lol I need to go back and check.
 
It's been about 10 weeks I think. I'm almost 90% sure I will cruise through the winter and then blast some prop and ace before summer to lean out and then PCT, because **** it. I'd like to be 240 and lean within the next couple of years. Here's today's work out, short and sweet. I did some squats for AustBenny, trying to explode out of the hole.


Leg press seated
250-10,10,10,10,10,10,10
260-10,8,8

Squats
185-8,8,8,6

Leg extension
145-15 155-12,10,10 drop 130-6

Leg press calves
200-30,30,30,30,30
 
rascal14 said:
Ending the second week of Tren and no sides really.. BP is higher but I only take meds for it when it gives me a bad headache. Maybe some extra anxiety, sleep has been off and on, no night sweats yet, no Tren cough. I will probably give it another week at 400mg and then raise it to 500-600mg. I'm not even sure how many weeks I've been on anymore lol I need to go back and check.
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Started my cycle this week with tren a 100mg eod end of week 1 and I haven't had any sides besides sweating with carbs I burn up when I look at bread
 
I get hot flashes throughout the day. I haven't really noticed it with carbs specifically, I'll pay more attention now though.
 
rascal14 said:
The first picture was the first week of the cycle and the other is from tonight. I've definitely added some fat as you can see and a lot of water. I feel like a lot has come on in the last two weeks since starting Ghar1ne. I jumped up 6 pounds with the same calories if not less most days since starting the Ghar1ne. I'm hoping time and this Tren will start helping me lean out.

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hmm I thought tren is suppose to lean you out while building mass. Heck I put on good gains without losing my abs with just SARMs haha.

Gotta be your diet bro, juicing doesn't mean you can eat whatever you want lol
 
zman86 said:
hmm I thought tren is suppose to lean you out while building mass. Heck I put on good gains without losing my abs with just SARMs haha.

Gotta be your diet bro, juicing doesn't mean you can eat whatever you want lol
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Captain obvious in the hiz-Ouse!!
 
PS, abs aren't everything to everyone. Bet this dude could Tren throw your abs through a wall without trying. Oh yeah, another benefit of Tren.

Just sayin'
 
zman86 said:
hmm I thought tren is suppose to lean you out while building mass. Heck I put on good gains without losing my abs with just SARMs haha.

Gotta be your diet bro, juicing doesn't mean you can eat whatever you want lol
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Eh. I have been eating whatever i want for the last 14 weeks and my abs have gotten better.
 
Dma378 said:
PS, abs aren't everything to everyone. Bet this dude could Tren throw your abs through a wall without trying. Oh yeah, another benefit of Tren.

Just sayin'
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Its ok he don't need to have abs since he's bulking, but with the test/tren shouldn't he be maintaining if not lowering his overall bf%.

PS. Roid raging via internet forums is what get threads ban
 
zman86 said:
Its ok he don't need to have abs since he's bulking, but with the test/tren shouldn't he be maintaining if not lowering his overall bf%.
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I'm sure you know, there is no cut and paste formula. I would say with the mass gained his BF% is maintaining. If you're considering that little bit in the front a downfall to the overall size and thickness that has been added, it goes to show that goals are not cut and paste either.
 
Dma378 said:
I'm sure you know, there is no cut and paste formula. I would say with the mass gained his BF% is maintaining. If you're considering that little bit in the front a downfall to the overall size and thickness that has been added, it goes to show that goals are not cut and paste either.
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If his goal is to strictly bulk for his first pinning, he should of saved the tren for his recomp/cut cycle, substitute with sdrol or m1t or something. He said he's training for hypotrophy, and you can tell with his workouts he trying to "body build" and going for that aesthetic physique shape.
 
zman86 said:
Its ok he don't need to have abs since he's bulking, but with the test/tren shouldn't he be maintaining if not lowering his overall bf%.

PS. Roid raging via internet forums is what get threads ban
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Being a snarky know it all on Internet forums is frowned upon as well.
 
Two weeks of Tren isn't much anyways lol and plenty of people bulk on Tren. Do some reading before you sound like more of an idiot.
 
Of course you can bulk on tren, but I was talking efficiency base on persons goals. People I know used tren to lean bulk, packing on that extra lean mass and still stay within 8-12 weeks out from contest shape. You packed on some mass, but also a good amount of bf, did you just add tren to help lean out a bit?

A lot of people come to this forum to learn and gain knowledge (unfortunately many young guns), just trying to keep it real, focusing on safety and efficiency. Not trying to be mean, but I guess you only expected opinions supporting your 'decisions'. I'm out, good luck on your cycle.
 
I appreciate all feedback. Not when you come in out of nowhere without reading half of what's been said. Yes I said I was planning more of a recomp with the added Tren. I haven't raised calories since starting Tren or Ghar1ne, yet I gained 6 pounds the first week and a half. Clearly some water retention from the Ghar1ne.
 
rascal14 said:
My training will most likely be each body part twice a week with one heavy day and one hypertrophy day for each muscle. I am not sure on an exact split, it may be something like PHAT. I will hit any other body part that I feel is lacking or I just feel like hitting on any off days. I plan on doing cardio at least a couple times a week to keep fat gain to a minimum.

I have been in a deficit basically the whole summer trying to lose as much body fat as possible before starting. Towards the end I started just trying to maintain where I was at, eating in a deficit most days but on days I was out with friends I would eat whatever and I did a lot of drinking. Lol
I will try to keep my calories around 2500-2800 this first week or so until everything starts kicking in, then I will up them to about 3000 and see what happens. I'm going for a lean bulk.
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I read more than enough... this is from your OP and unless I miss a post somewhere, didn't know you change your plan from the OP.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Eh. I have been eating whatever i want for the last 14 weeks and my abs have gotten better.
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I think that also has a lot to do with quality gear. One compound being used by two different people buying from two different UGL's can produce drastically different results. No one ever actually knows the quality of what they're running. I've seen guys on TRT get better results than guys who run a gram of test plus other compounds from UGL's. It sucks but it's the way it is
 
JeremyNG25 said:
I think that also has a lot to do with quality gear. One compound being used by two different people buying from two different UGL's can produce drastically different results. No one ever actually knows the quality of what they're running. I've seen guys on TRT get better results than guys who run a gram of test plus other compounds from UGL's. It sucks but it's the way it is
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Or he got dat Frank Zane genetics lol.
 
JeremyNG25 said:
I think that also has a lot to do with quality gear. One compound being used by two different people buying from two different UGL's can produce drastically different results. No one ever actually knows the quality of what they're running. I've seen guys on TRT get better results than guys who run a gram of test plus other compounds from UGL's. It sucks but it's the way it is
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Sorry forgot to mention I'm on test and deca, not tren
 
This isn't my thread and I know rascal needs no defense, but to act like you're just "imparting your grand knowledge" is just a facade to bolster yourself. I've seen it in a dozens other threads since you e come on this forum. To "help" people. And please, don't flatter yourself into thinking this is hating. I have plenty of friends and comrades with great physiques. But humility is a virtue. Learn it.
 
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Yeah
 
And just to be clear I have no intentions of ever being contest lean. 10-12 weeks out physique would be my end goal most likely, if I'm thinking of the bf% correctly.
 
Dma378 said:
This isn't my thread and I know rascal needs no defense, but to act like you're just "imparting your grand knowledge" is just a facade to bolster yourself. I've seen it in a dozens other threads since you e come on this forum. To "help" people. And please, don't flatter yourself into thinking this is hating. I have plenty of friends and comrades with great physiques. But humility is a virtue. Learn it.
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I'm here to learn as much as anyone, I'm not qualify to give advice on pinning since I've never used and probably not for the near future. But if I see something thats off, I will call it out.

For a first time pinner with 2 prior PH cycles under his belt he started with:

950+mg of Test week 1-4(Some of the IFBB Pros I know don't use that much), follow by 750mg up until now. 4 weeks of T-bol and 2 weeks of Tren Ace so far (which suppose to kick very fast).

Base on the goals he posted and looking at his most recent pic, he gain some bf and yes he gained some mass, but not much more than my friend after his cycle of Hdrol bridge into M1T. And I've seem plenty of first timer logs getting much amazing results on only 300-500mg of Test E.

Something just don't seem right, whether its diet/training, under dosed product... I don't fking know. Your online roid rage makes you sound very intelligent btw.
 
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