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Natty Supplements for Mass that don't require PCT

jgntyce

jgntyce

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I can't take ARA due to a previous experience that it hurt my joints real badly. Other than that, what natty mass supplements can I take that don't required PCT? I know of Anabeta elite, epicatechin, laxogenin, iron forged most wanted, soy lecithin...anything else?
 
Natural supplements such as CMO, HMB, and PA are most likely going to be your top 3 natural options
 
jgntyce said:
I can't take ARA due to a previous experience that it hurt my joints real badly. Other than that, what natty mass supplements can I take that don't required PCT? I know of Anabeta elite, epicatechin, laxogenin, iron forged most wanted, soy lecithin...anything else?
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By definition natty supps dont require PCT. I would try soy lecithin(PA), epic unleashed, anentoflavone. Maybe some viron/lj100 with letrone if you feel like affecting test and estro naturally.
 
AnaBeta Elite
Phosphatidic acid
HMB-Fa
 
AnaBeta Elite or Forskolin-95 are great options. ABE was specifically designed for those trying to recomp or put on mass. Hormonal optimization, performance enhancement and body comp improvements are things are lead team looked for when designing it.

Soy Lecithin is another great choice that many people have enjoyed. You of course have your PA content, but there's a host of other beneficial phospholipids.

No PCT needed for a caloric surplus either. :D
 
^^ Yep thats for sure. Specific products like abe, anafuse, follidrone etc are going to be your best bet.
 
jgntyce said:
I can't take ARA due to a previous experience that it hurt my joints real badly.
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How long did you take ARA for? I noticed increased joint pain the first week of using, but the following week the healing was borderline miraculous. I have many injuries, some that require surgery to repair - all of them healed and feel like I'm in my early 20's again. I also take fish oil daily, so it might have compounded the effect, but it worked very well for me. I'd give ARA another shot, have a little patience and try not to take all these things at once.

For what it's worth HMB has helped me maintain strength while leaning out but it takes time.
 
DirtyWilly said:
How long did you take ARA for? I noticed increased joint pain the first week of using, but the following week the healing was borderline miraculous. I have many injuries, some that require surgery to repair - all of them healed and feel like I'm in my early 20's again. I also take fish oil daily, so it might have compounded the effect, but it worked very well for me. I'd give ARA another shot, have a little patience and try not to take all these things at once.

For what it's worth HMB has helped me maintain strength while leaning out but it takes time.
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I used ARA for 50 days. I thought it wasn't advised to take fish oil with ARA?
 
Definitely look into AlphaMax. It is good for any goal. The F95 will help with lean mass gains and fat loss. The 3,4 Divan helps boost free test and Arimistane helps with estrogen control. No PCT is needed and it is an open ingredient profile. No PCT required
 
ma70 said:
Surprised to see the HMB-FA mention here. What kind of training do you do?
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I have a feeling its because he stats such low BF% that muscle sparing supps are higher priority
 
Woody said:
You can't tease us with a properly dosed PA supplement while you're still teasing us with Testify and the new Conquer. Stop the madness!!!!
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Dont forget the amento unleashed and cista unleashed AND strength unleashed.

Damn it OL just take my money already and release your new line up NOW!!!!!
 
Olympus Labs said:
Regarding PA, PHOSPHAS1ZE will soon be a very great alternative. Yes, I'm teasing :D
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Very interesting. Seeing as one PA supplement is almost certainly under-dosed and the other is very expensive, a decently-priced and properly dosed (at least 750mg/day) concentrated PA supplement would be nice, although I'm not sure if it'd be able to beat out the granules for me due to price alone, although I would want to have a back-up supply on hand for those days when I don't want to take the granules. Some people note increased appetite with the granules as well, which isn't always a positive, but should be if you're goal is purely to put on as much mass as possible. Also, I must say that Magnitropin increases my appetite like crazy. I'm a light guy (under 160lbs), but I can easily down 2000+ calories in one sitting and still have room for more after taking 3 caps. I haven't been taking it long enough to speak for much else, but I'd say that a significant increase in calories alone would lead to an increase in mass.
 
yelis300 said:
When is this supposed to be released boss? Lookin to get on board the PA train and I don't want to eat 5 tbsp SL everyday lol
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You don't really need 5tbsp a day. Since you're basically assured 4-7% PA with de-oiled granules, you only need 18.75g (about 2.5tbsp) to get at least 750mg (750-1500mg) PA at that dose, with the average probably being 6% or 1.125g PA.
 
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