pct for tr3st and epi. please help.

[oyvind]

Am almost done planning my autumn cycle. will be trying to gain some quality pounds by doing 6 weeks of tr3st and epi, no more no less..
My plans;
tr3st 50mg all the way (first time including trest, and doing it cause I need a test-base to minimize the epi-lethargy).
epi starting 30 for 5 days, then 40-50mg all the way.
will be including arimistane at 100-125 on cycle.
other supps will be multivit, fishoils and xtra vit c.

PCT- my pct plans are tamox 20-20-10-10, starting day one.
ad3-pct as directed for 4 weeks, starting week two to four.
daa at 1,5 morning and 1,5 evening for 4 weeks, week one to four.
creatine mono, zma, dmaa/caffeine/beta alanine/agmatine/arginin as pwo, and bcaa.

I got some clomid too, so here is my question
I know tr3st is strong enough to cause sides, gyno,estro related, shut-down,shrinkage and so on..
Do you guys think that arimistane is enough as an on cycle a.i.?
what to do with tamox/clomid? Do I use them both in pct? I prefer tamox.
Do I use one of them as an a.i?
Do I need another a.i, or another supp?
Please give me some input. appreciate all input.
Thanx.

 

[IronAddiction]

In my opinion only is that a better ai is needed with trest it converts to methyl estr.for the ai something like adex/azol.

 

[IronAddiction]

Trest is a much stronger compound than epi

 

[rascal14]

I would use Aromasin or Arimidex with Trest.

 

[oyvind]

so, no need to include clomid then?

 

[oyvind]

I would use Aromasin or Arimidex with Trest.

thanx, will try to order arimidex.

 

[yates84]

so, no need to include clomid then?

Exemestane for your on cycle then clomid for pct. Hope you are ready for trest and the estrogen sides that come with it. Epi will mitigate some of these sides but I would dose exemestane 12.5mg eod from the start of the cycle

 

[oyvind]

ok,thanx. will have a look at exemestane. Have done some cycles of epi, halo, epi/halo, pro-mag the last years. did some test,sust,tren,deca,win and so on some years ago, so yes, I think I am ready. how is tr3st, compared to sd? stronger/weaker. is 50mg ok, or is 25 enough, if my main concerne is a test base? was kinda hoping that epi,arimistane and a solid tamox pct would take care of the estro sides, but maybe not? any input will be appreciated. and maybe tamox+clomid in pct?

 

[yates84]

Sd and trest are completely different but sd is way stronger. Trest is a great test base and 50mg of trest you should be good with exemestane at 12.5mg eod on cycle. A clomid pct should be fine but I would add in OL super pct and epic unleashed.

 

[oyvind]

Sd and trest are completely different but sd is way stronger. Trest is a great test base and 50mg of trest you should be good with exemestane at 12.5mg eod on cycle. A clomid pct should be fine but I would add in OL super pct and epic unleashed.

Thanx man. But why Would you recomend clomid instead of tamoxifen? Yes, I Just added it as a test base originally, But some guy told me that tr3st was as strong as sd, and there was too much sides. Just wondered if that was true or bull, cause thats not what i've been reading.

 

[oyvind]

so,got my exemestane. do I dose it 12,5 mg eod on-cycle, starting from day one? Do I use exemestane after my tamoxifen pct too? Never used other a.i`s than arimistane, 6-bromo and erase-pro, so really need experienced input on this. thanx for your input guys. Looking forward to starting this cycle in 14 days. Heard alot of great things about tr3st, and epistane(dragon) is always a winner ;-)

 

[doublet2172]

so,got my exemestane. do I dose it 12,5 mg eod on-cycle, starting from day one? Do I use exemestane after my tamoxifen pct too? Never used other a.i`s than arimistane, 6-bromo and erase-pro, so really need experienced input on this. thanx for your input guys. Looking forward to starting this cycle in 14 days. Heard alot of great things about tr3st, and epistane(dragon) is always a winner ;-)

12.5mg will probably destroy your estrogen. I take 25mgs a week on cycle with 375 test, 350 deca, 350 tren and 300 mast for example.

 

[oyvind]

12.5mg will probably destroy your estrogen. I take 25mgs a week on cycle with 375 test, 350 deca, 350 tren and 300 mast for example.

ok thanx. don´t wanna totally eliminate estrogen, since a little estro is needed. what would be your suggestion on dosing? As I`ve allready mentioned, my cycle will be 6 weeks at 40-50 mg epistane, and 50 mg tr3st. a lot of guys said that 12,5 eod is great, but you maybe think it`s overkill?

 

[doublet2172]

I would start at 12.5 e3days then if you get bloat/acne switch to every 2 days

 

[oyvind]

I would start at 12.5 e3days then if you get bloat/acne switch to every 2 days

Ok, I`ll go for 12,5 e3d, and increase dosage if feeling any sides. guess this goes for flaring/itchy nipples/lumps too, or do I increase the dose even more if these kinda problems accur? Never had any problems with gyno, and my diet is ok, so not used to see bloating either, but just to be on the safe side. Rather safe than sorry ;-)

 

[doublet2172]

Yeah exactly. I have never had gyno sensitivity so I just go on the low side until I feel a high estro symptom come on then slowly increase until gone

 

[oyvind]

Yeah exactly. I have never had gyno sensitivity so I just go on the low side until I feel a high estro symptom come on then slowly increase until gone

ok, thanx.

 

[Volvo140G]

E x e m e s t a n e

 

[oyvind]

E x e m e s t a n e

What? Yup, exemestane man