SSN- rapid fire. ??
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kboxer7
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No body? Really? Well, I'm buying a couple of tubs anyway. As long as it's at least 25mg pr serving, I can just double the dose and have a decent workout
No clue.
Just looked up that pre and you must have found their old version on clearance. New version on their site has removed the 1,3....
Still trying to find bulk 1,3 or caps of 1,3 myself but not a whole lotta luck so far.
oyvind
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Well, I've been using 25mg geranium caps, mixed with choline arginin Agmantine and caffeine for a while now, but just got to tubs, and the laber says that they contain 1,3 dim
maybe I'm just Lucky.
kboxer7
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Well, I've been using 25mg geranium caps, mixed with choline arginin Agmantine and caffeine for a while now, but just got to tubs, and the laber says that they contain 1,3 dim
I mean I've found some products still floating around out there with 1,3 but most are prop blends and I personally like to know how much caffeine is with my 1,3 for safety reasons.
How would you compare the geranium caps to 1,3? Is it the same type of feeling or more stimmed out/jittery?
Afi140
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Geranium is 1,3,Dmaa
oyvind
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As he said, geranium is 1,3
. No, I dont like prop blends myself. But on really heavy days, I take 75 mg dmaa, and add 1/2-1 scoop of "stimul8". Even if its a prop blend, they've really nailed it. The Combo is extreme bro! But since the 1,3 got banned, its harder to find. But what I really want to know, is WHAT MAKES CRAZE PERFECT? I bought some dendrobium,and tried it, but it aint that
kenpoengineer
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Search for 1,3D Bomb.
kboxer7
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As he said, geranium is 1,3
There is argument as to the validity of Geranium Extract/Oil containing 1,3.
1,3 is Methylhexanamine, which is a synthetic compound. A trade name for this compound is "Geranamine" but NOT geranium. Methylhexanamine containing supplements sometimes list "geranium oil" or "geranium extract" as a source of methylhexanamine. BUT, many lab tests have shown that geranium oils have been found to contain NO Methylhexanamine.
Lisi A, Hasick N, Kazlauskas R, Goebel C (2011). "Studies of methylhexaneamine in supplements and geranium oil". Drug Test Anal 3 (11-12): 873–6.
With that said, one promising study using a different means of analysis has shown that DMAA is found in some types of geraniums (but not others), and at a large variance in concentrations ranging from 0 ng - 496 ng per gram of geranium.
Analytical Chemistry Insights 2012:7 59-78 Original Research Published on 08 Nov 2012
kboxer7
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Ah, I misunderstood. You are right that the supplements use the names interchangeably.
The second study I posted was pretty thorough and they did in fact find 1,3 in some of the plants, just not all of them and the ranges in concentration varied quite a bit.