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EPI-PLEX BY COMPETITIVE EDGE LABS [CEL]

T-Bone said:
Sounds like you're having fun T!. You should like a happy guy too, which is important.
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man, with all of the crap i have been through in my life[most of it self inflicted], i feel like the luckiest man on earth to have the life i have!!!
 
thebigt said:
i am feeling really fit, much fitter than i ever thought i would be at 57...plus i have a good tan from working outside and my wife tells me i look great...life is good!!!
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You are not telling us the rest my friend.
What about all those sexy senoritas in your neighbourhood whistling after you :D
Come on big Guy.. dont be shy!! :D
 
Danes said:
You are not telling us the rest my friend.
What about all those sexy senoritas in your neighbourhood whistling after you :D
Come on big Guy.. dont be shy!! :D
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of course it is very flattering when nice looking females find me attractive, but i would NEVER stray from my wife...my wife has played a huge role in me having the life i have, i would never jeopardize that for a roll in the hay!!!
 
thebigt said:
of course it is very flattering when nice looking females find me attractive, but i would NEVER stray from my wife...my wife has played a huge role in me having the life i have, i would never jeopardize that for a roll in the hay!!!
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Ofcourse !! Know exactly what you mean. I was just kidding. Typical my humor lol
 
thebigt said:
of course it is very flattering when nice looking females find me attractive, but i would NEVER stray from my wife...my wife has played a huge role in me having the life i have, i would never jeopardize that for a roll in the hay!!!
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Good man. I believe cheating is huge cowardice act too. Vows are sacred and should never be broken.
 
thebigt said:
back to the log---today was day 15

again today no nifs, i spent 30 minutes lifting in basement then did 4 sets of 50 situps, then 3 sets of 10 weighted leg raises...then between rain i took dogs for a run at the park-i had to go at a slower than usual pace because sid is getting old and has a hard time keeping up, although he enjoys the hell out of it!!! duke on the other hand was pulling and tugging tryin to chase squirells, lol!!!

i am feeling really fit, much fitter than i ever thought i would be at 57...plus i have a good tan from working outside and my wife tells me i look great...life is good!!!
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Thats awesome my man. Glad to hear ur feeling good. Thats what its all about!
 
day 15

no rain today, popped 2 caps of epi-flex and headed to indy and nifs for workout. i felt extra motivated today from being rained out for 2 days and was very rested...motivation and endurance was very good, i added 2 extra machines onto my usual 14. pump was very quick to come-i've been doing lighter weights with more reps [15 reps versus my usual 10 per set]..i think it's time to up the weight some, the weights i have been using are feeling lighter and even with increased reps i think i can add more weight...

thought for the day....no matter what temp the ac is set at, i sweat more on hot humid days--is this just me?
 
thebigt said:
day 15

no rain today, popped 2 caps of epi-flex and headed to indy and nifs for workout. i felt extra motivated today from being rained out for 2 days and was very rested...motivation and endurance was very good, i added 2 extra machines onto my usual 14. pump was very quick to come-i've been doing lighter weights with more reps [15 reps versus my usual 10 per set]..i think it's time to up the weight some, the weights i have been using are feeling lighter and even with increased reps i think i can add more weight...

thought for the day....no matter what temp the ac is set at, i sweat more on hot humid days--is this just me?
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Nope, you are the only one. My wife calls me "the human furnace".
 
thebigt said:
day 15

no rain today, popped 2 caps of epi-flex and headed to indy and nifs for workout. i felt extra motivated today from being rained out for 2 days and was very rested...motivation and endurance was very good, i added 2 extra machines onto my usual 14. pump was very quick to come-i've been doing lighter weights with more reps [15 reps versus my usual 10 per set]..i think it's time to up the weight some, the weights i have been using are feeling lighter and even with increased reps i think i can add more weight...

thought for the day....no matter what temp the ac is set at, i sweat more on hot humid days--is this just me?
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Nice, guess its starting to really work!
 
EMPIREMIND said:
Its Funny man. Day 15 was when i first noticed anything significant with -epi as well. It only gets better brother!
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yup...it is raining again today so i didn't go to indy or nifs but even working out in my basement i could tell that endurance was well above baseline!!!
 
thebigt, i dont want to ruin your log but i would like to let you know how my EPIPLEX run works for me:

I am 12th day on EpiPlex and here is my update:


-really not feeling any better pumps or endurance at all.

-first week it deff gave me stomach aches, gasses,loss of appetite etc and after 6-7 days it disapeared BUT it has changed my stomach. Before, i used to to go to toilet 1-3 times each day(emptying my gut)and it comes very easy. Now, I can feel my stomach is "slow" and i barely go to toilet just 1 time daily. And if I go, i need to push it out and I feel there is much more and I cant get it out lol.


This has very logical explanation and it is due to Piperine.

i am taking 4 caps at day and it is 3-4 hours apart to hold the follistatin peak thru the day to see if it would lead to any gains (thinking of 3-4 months length).

So, 4 caps is 1200 Epicatechin and thats totaly fine for the body. But there is 20mg Piperine in each cap which is 80mg in 4 caps.

that is giving the issue and there is studies done on piperine showing inhibition of gastric emptying and gastrointestinal transit.


That is exactly what I experience now.

never had this issue and have not changed my diet or anything.
 
Danes said:
thebigt, i dont want to ruin your log but i would like to let you know how my EPIPLEX run works for me:

I am 12th day on EpiPlex and here is my update:


-really not feeling any better pumps or endurance at all.

-first week it deff gave me stomach aches, gasses,loss of appetite etc and after 6-7 days it disapeared BUT it has changed my stomach. Before, i used to to go to toilet 1-3 times each day(emptying my gut)and it comes very easy. Now, I can feel my stomach is "slow" and i barely go to toilet just 1 time daily. And if I go, i need to push it out and I feel there is much more and I cant get it out lol.


This has very logical explanation and it is due to Piperine.

i am taking 4 caps at day and it is 3-4 hours apart to hold the follistatin peak thru the day to see if it would lead to any gains (thinking of 3-4 months length).

So, 4 caps is 1200 Epicatechin and thats totaly fine for the body. But there is 20mg Piperine in each cap which is 80mg in 4 caps.

that is giving the issue and there is studies done on piperine showing inhibition of gastric emptying and gastrointestinal transit.


That is exactly what I experience now.

never had this issue and have not changed my diet or anything.
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Danes don't ever think you are ruining my log giving your observations-they are welcomed...do you plan to continue running?
 
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today is family day, so the most i will get done is maybe take dogs for a run...

doing ribs on the grill today with fresh corn on the cob-mmmm..and of course sweet baby rays bbq sauce!!! even have a watermelon for dessert!!!!
 
thebigt said:
Danes don't ever think you are ruining my log giving you observations-they are welcomed...do you plan to continue running?
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Thank you my friend :)
I am thinking to try one more week to see but as I know, this would be worse and worse and possibly lead to constipation.
In some cases, blocked Colon can lead to diarrhea.
 
Danes said:
Thank you my friend :)
I am thinking to try one more week to see but as I know, this would be worse and worse and possibly lead to constipation.
In some cases, blocked Colon can lead to diarrhea.
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maybe cut back to 3?
 
Danes said:
It could be possible my stomach would get used to it and normalize the issue. Thats why I gonna try 1 more week :)
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it might have been better to have eased into 4caps by starting with 2 and giving your body a chance to adapt....just saying!!!!
 
thebigt said:
it might have been better to have eased into 4caps by starting with 2 and giving your body a chance to adapt....just saying!!!!
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To be honest with you my friend, i actually have.
First, I began with 2. 4 hours apart, then added 3rd and the stomach issues came, then 7 days after , no stomach aches, appetite returned etc, then I inceased to 4. Then I began to feel something is not as it should be with my Gut.
But to be honest, i knew piperine at this dose could be the problem. (Ofcourse not for all)
 
Danes said:
To be honest with you my friend, i actually have.
First, I began with 2. 4 hours apart, then added 3rd and the stomach issues came, then 7 days after , no stomach aches, appetite returned etc, then I inceased to 4. Then I began to feel something is not as it should be with my Gut.
But to be honest, i knew piperine at this dose could be the problem. (Ofcourse not for all)
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i would stick with 3 for awhile, then when your body adjusts bump to 4 and see!!!
 
thebigt said:
i would stick with 3 for awhile, then when your body adjusts bump to 4 and see!!!
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Or jump to 10 then return to 4-5 and it would feels like I never had problem lol.
Shocking the body ;)

It would be good idea like you said but its so boring to lower the dose lol
 
Danes said:
Or jump to 10 then return to 4-5 and it would feels like I never had problem lol.
Shocking the body ;)

It would be good idea like you said but its so boring to lower the dose lol
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that is why my wife has not and never will cheat on me, lol!!!
 
Danes just follow label recommendations and maybe you won't feel sick. Or you could try some bulk whole psyllium husks stacked with metamucil. That's what I use daily, one tablespoon of each, once a day. Now Danes, that's a big dose of fiber and I worked my way up to it. Soo...you know.
 
I did three caps yesterday myself, and had a bit of what you describe. I might only do two caps from now on myself. Split AM and PM. Not sure if two preworkout would be more advantageous than one pre and one later in the day or not.
 
T-Bone said:
Danes just follow label recommendations and maybe you won't feel sick. Or you could try some bulk whole psyllium husks stacked with metamucil. That's what I use daily, one tablespoon of each, once a day. Now Danes, that's a big dose of fiber and I worked my way up to it. Soo...you know.
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Thanks for recommendation.
I have been using 1g of EPI before (1 hour prior workout) and no increase in endurance at all.
Since the new study showing follistatin increase, I would like to give EPI a last run to see how it goes (taking 4 caps 4hour apart to hold the folli concentration high).
Going down to recommended dosage which is 2 cap would do NOTHING for me .that would really be a waste.(for me).

If this issue last, i will get pure EPI again and dose it 4-5 times 4 hour apart. (Because it is piperine causing my issues)
 
wasn't the whole idea of including piperine to make less epi more effective?
 
thebigt said:
wasn't the whole idea of including piperine to make less epi more effective?
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Yes that is true.
Bioavailability is not the biggest issue with Catechins, it is the absorption.

Personaly, i would rather use GSE/GTE with 5mg piperine than just 20mg piperine.
 
Danes said:
Yes that is true.
Bioavailability is not the biggest issue with Catechins, this is the absorption.

Personaly, i would rather use GSE/GTE with 5mg piperine than just 20mg piperine.
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or 8oz grapefruit juice, lol!!!
 
it is t-minus 1 hour until grillin time!!!!:food::food::food::food:


HAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL YOU FATHERS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
no rain today-:arms: so i popped 2 caps epi-plex and headed to indy...got a good full body workout in at nifs and did a full day of mowing. the pump/muscle fullness is apparent, the increased endurance is more subtle[my endurance was pretty high starting out, so any increase is a good thing].

not noticing any sides, i am tolerating 2 caps on empty very well!!!
 
Very nice my man. Does this compare to any other supplements that you have taken in the past? And if so how?
 
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