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best ph for mass and strength?

exrugger

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Hello everyone, it's been a long time so I apologize in advance for my ignorance and being out of the loop so long. The last time I tried a PH was years ago (epi, it was so so) and before that SD (incredible stuff, loved it). Is there anything comparable to SD anymore or am I out of luck? If not, what's your favorite DS or PH for mass and strength gains?
 
DMZ, Msten...

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M1t or superdrol and they are just as easy to get as anything because of the ban so if you want real phs you got to order over seas from the uk which isnt that bad because they have the stronger phs
 
Yea i would also say dmz or msten are the most comparable ph's to it.
 
Thanks everyone, which would you say has fewer sides/risks? From my reading thus far they both seem like effective alternatives to SD.
 
Never ran either, but from what I've read dmz seems easier on the body. Hear of too many ppl feeling like garbage on msten. Its prob user dependent tho....
 
BillyBatson said:
What do you mean by "designer steroid?" - out of curiosity
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Prohormones require conversion by the body into an active steroid. Designer steroids like msten, dmz, sd have their own activity and directly interact with the androgen receptor. This is why they tend to kick in faster and are stronger than something like the halodrol which needs to convert into turinabol to become active.
 
karianns said:
Prohormones require conversion by the body into an active steroid. Designer steroids like msten, dmz, sd have their own activity and directly interact with the androgen receptor. This is why they tend to kick in faster and are stronger than something like the halodrol which needs to convert into turinabol to become active.
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Yes but hdrol IS active on its own before it converts to Tbol. Some even say it doesn't covert at all.
 
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BillyBatson said:
What do you mean by "designer steroid?" - out of curiosity
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They are all anabolic androgenic steroids, masked and named pro hormones, so you and I can buy them legally over the counter thinking they are not nearly as "bad " as conventional steroids. Yet some of them are among the most powerful aas ever created. It's all about the fukked up US laws. Most "real " pro hormones are long gone, boldione for example, converted by your bodys enzymes and transformed into boldenone. It was good stuff, but expensive.
 
Dmz was awesome for me, savage pumps in the gym. Ran it up 80mg I think. Next time Ill stop at 60, no real increase over 60.

Msten was great for 4wks at 20mg. I will be using it as a kicker for cycles in the future. My firstvrep for every excercise felt like I could move the world, typically my first rep is weaker, and then i feel strong on the 2nd. Msten gave me an explosive strength that I cant wait to experience again
 
Nitro41 said:
Dmz was awesome for me, savage pumps in the gym. Ran it up 80mg I think. Next time Ill stop at 60, no real increase over 60.

Msten was great for 4wks at 20mg. I will be using it as a kicker for cycles in the future. My firstvrep for every excercise felt like I could move the world, typically my first rep is weaker, and then i feel strong on the 2nd. Msten gave me an explosive strength that I cant wait to experience again
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Unfortunately, I think that BOTH of these compounds have finally/officially made the "banned" list
- because I'm not seeing them as readily available on the various vendor sites as I did just a month ago. :(
 
Not sure they're banned...yet. No doubt they will be sooner or later. That's why manufacturers have quit reinvesting in the raw materials and production and are selling through their remaining stockpiles. Otherwise they would take enormous losses by having to blow out at below cost.
 
BillyBatson said:
Unfortunately, I think that BOTH of these compounds have finally/officially made the "banned" list
- because I'm not seeing them as readily available on the various vendor sites as I did just a month ago. :(
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There are still places with Sten and DMZ around.
 
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